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PR Card Renew when working abroad

Alibibi

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My family and I received our PR cards this year. However, only my wife and kids are currently living in Canada, while I am still working in a third country. Since I have a residence tie to Canada (my family staying there, house, bank account, driving license), I have been filling and paying taxes, even though I typically lived in Canada about two months per year when visiting my family. I plan to stay in Canada permanently after 2030, but for now, I need to continue working abroad to support my family and send most of my income to Canada.
My question is: after my PR card expires, how can i renew my PR card? Can I re-enter Canada and stay for two consecutive years to meet residency obligation? Would this case cause any issues with CBSA or IRCC?
 

ethelstan

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Nobody knows how the IRCC or CBSA will deal with your non-compliance. In my view, it is unlikely you can renew or maintain your PR. Either way, your wife can sponsor you when you are ready to move here permanently.
 
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My family and I received our PR cards this year. However, only my wife and kids are currently living in Canada, while I am still working in a third country. Since I have a residence tie to Canada (my family staying there, house, bank account, driving license), I have been filling and paying taxes, even though I typically lived in Canada about two months per year when visiting my family. I plan to stay in Canada permanently after 2030, but for now, I need to continue working abroad to support my family and send most of my income to Canada.
My question is: after my PR card expires, how can i renew my PR card? Can I re-enter Canada and stay for two consecutive years to meet residency obligation? Would this case cause any issues with CBSA or IRCC?
You must be in Canada to apply for a renewed PR Card.

Since your current PR may be valid for 5 years from the day that you became a PR, you will be out of compliance on the third anniversary of your landing day (+1 day). Returning to Canada at any time after that day (even with a valid PR card) could pose a problem with CBSA.

Ideally, you should return to Canada before the 3 years have passed; stay in Canada as long as possible (at least 2 years would be good), then apply for a renewed card.
 
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YVR123

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My family and I received our PR cards this year. However, only my wife and kids are currently living in Canada, while I am still working in a third country. Since I have a residence tie to Canada (my family staying there, house, bank account, driving license), I have been filling and paying taxes, even though I typically lived in Canada about two months per year when visiting my family. I plan to stay in Canada permanently after 2030, but for now, I need to continue working abroad to support my family and send most of my income to Canada.
My question is: after my PR card expires, how can i renew my PR card? Can I re-enter Canada and stay for two consecutive years to meet residency obligation? Would this case cause any issues with CBSA or IRCC?
If you don't meet RO, then you cannot renew your PR card which is only possible if you are inside Canada. (Or apply for PRTD from outside)
Working aboard is not a H&C reason to get PRTD. Paying taxes doesn't change the fact that you won't meet RO.
So your best plan is to ask your spouse to sponsor you again when you are ready to move back.
You may have problem returning after your PR card expires. If you didn't get reported in one of your trips, you may want to give up your PR and apply for TRV (which may or may not be approved) or eTA.
Until you are ready to move back, you will be visiting as a visitor. (you can still pay tax as non-resident)
 
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Alibibi

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Nov 26, 2024
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What happens if my PR card expires, and CBSA reports me to IRCC? Assume the worst-case scenario: they withdraw my PR status. Whether they will grant or deny my PR re-application sponsored by my wife, given that I have previously lost it once. Having a residence tie and paying taxes as a factual residence can be considered as a bonus point?
 

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What happens if my PR card expires, and CBSA reports me to IRCC? Assume the worst-case scenario: they withdraw my PR status. Whether they will grant or deny my PR re-application sponsored by my wife, given that I have previously lost it once. Having a residence tie and paying taxes as a factual residence can be considered as a bonus point?
Nothing happens if your PR card expires - unless you done something requires an official to examine your file such as going through a border or file your PR card renewal/PRTD application (even though you don't meet RO).
 

YVR123

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What happens if my PR card expires, and CBSA reports me to IRCC? Assume the worst-case scenario: they withdraw my PR status. Whether they will grant or deny my PR re-application sponsored by my wife, given that I have previously lost it once. Having a residence tie and paying taxes as a factual residence can be considered as a bonus point?
Just want to be clear, you cannot fly into Canada with an expired PR card. The airline most likely wont' allow you to board the flight. Unless you hold an US passport. (they may not ask for PR card for US passport holder)
You could travel via the land border in private cars with an expired PR card from US. (assuming you have visa/can travel via US)
CBSA can report you even with a valid PR card if you do not meet your RO. (It's less likely for them to notice but it depends on the CBSA officer)
 
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canuck78

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My family and I received our PR cards this year. However, only my wife and kids are currently living in Canada, while I am still working in a third country. Since I have a residence tie to Canada (my family staying there, house, bank account, driving license), I have been filling and paying taxes, even though I typically lived in Canada about two months per year when visiting my family. I plan to stay in Canada permanently after 2030, but for now, I need to continue working abroad to support my family and send most of my income to Canada.
My question is: after my PR card expires, how can i renew my PR card? Can I re-enter Canada and stay for two consecutive years to meet residency obligation? Would this case cause any issues with CBSA or IRCC?
How did your family qualify for PR status? Were you the primary applicant? You mention having lost your PR status before could you elaborate? Would add of course you should be taxed on your international income if your family is benefiting from services in Canada.
 
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ethelstan

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What happens if my PR card expires, and CBSA reports me to IRCC? Assume the worst-case scenario: they withdraw my PR status. Whether they will grant or deny my PR re-application sponsored by my wife, given that I have previously lost it once. Having a residence tie and paying taxes as a factual residence can be considered as a bonus point?
You don't have to wait until you lost your PR. When they reported you, you can just simply renounce it and have your re-sponsor you.

Residence tie and paying tax are no longer relevant on spousal sponsorship.
 
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canuck78

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You don't have to wait until you lost your PR. When they reported you, you can just simply renounce it and have your re-sponsor you.

Residence tie and paying tax are no longer relevant on spousal sponsorship.
Renouncing PR status may make it impossible to visit Canada. Also if primary applicant, getting PR and then renouncing PR soon after could be viewed as misrepresentation. Bad enough that family parked in Canada while income earned is abroad.
 
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Alibibi

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Nov 26, 2024
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How did your family qualify for PR status? Were you the primary applicant? You mention having lost your PR status before could you elaborate? Would add of course you should be taxed on your international income if your family is benefiting from services in Canada.
I am the dependent applicant and have not lost my PR status —I just received it a couple of months ago. However, assuming the worst-case scenario where IRCC withdraws my status in the future due to non-compliance with the residency obligation, would my wife be able to sponsor me? She is the primary applicant and may have become a citizen by that time.
 

canuck78

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I am the dependent applicant and have not lost my PR status —I just received it a couple of months ago. However, assuming the worst-case scenario where IRCC withdraws my status in the future due to non-compliance with the residency obligation, would my wife be able to sponsor me? She is the primary applicant and may have become a citizen by that time.
Yes if she could sponsor you if she can show she can support you in Canada.
 
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