Potential changes in Express Entry in upcoming months (released by IRCC)

[nagarjun rao]

I have a couple of questions!
1) Firstly, is the report provided by JALT, initially, a genuinely published report by IRCC in general? Or is it a response to the recommendations made by CERA?
2) Secondly, can someone help me understand the crs impact chart depicted through bubbles at the end of report more clearly?

 

[Alexios07]

I am really curious how many points will be awarded candidates with LMIA. They say "A significant reduction in points awarded to candidates with offers of arranged employment, which would no longer guarantee an invitation while still significantly increasing the chance of being invited;"
A bit confusing statement

Not so confusing. As of now, with an approved LMIA, you will get 600 points -> 100% chance to secure an ITA, no matter what your human capital points are.

With new changes, you will no longer have 600 points for LMIA, I say only 150 or 200. Therefore, you are not guaranteed a LMIA anymore, but combining this 150 points with your Human capital points, you still have a much better chance in the pool.

Ex: 350 Human capital points (degree, age, work experience) + 150 points LMIA = 500 CRS points.

 

[johnny123]

Not so confusing. As of now, with an approved LMIA, you will get 600 points -> 100% chance to secure an ITA, no matter what your human capital points are.

With new changes, you will no longer have 600 points for LMIA, I say only 150 or 200. Therefore, you are not guaranteed a LMIA anymore, but combining this 150 points with your Human capital points, you still have a much better chance in the pool.

Ex: 350 Human capital points (degree, age, work experience) + 150 points LMIA = 500 CRS points.

That was my conclusion as well, assuming that lowest draw score will remain in the same range as it is now.

 

[axlh17]

What does "arranged employment" mean?

 

[Alexios07]

What does "arranged employment" mean?

Means LMIA approved job

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/hire/offers.asp

 

[ButterflyChemist]

Means LMIA approved job

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/hire/offers.asp

Often when you talk about LMIA jobs you food with statements like low skilled jobs like cooks. Low skilled workers cannot use express entry to immigrate unless the have pnp because CEC, FSW and FSTs require you to work at a specific noc level. Chill with the bias against lmia holders and cooks in particular.

 

[Alexios07]

Often when you talk about LMIA jobs you food with statements like low skilled jobs like cooks. Low skilled workers cannot use express entry to immigrate unless the have pnp because CEC, FSW and FSTs require you to work at a specific noc level. Chill with the bias against lmia holders and cooks in particular.

Maybe because one out of six ITA goes to the cook and supervisor positions? is cook the only low-skilled position Canada needs?

I have no bias against LMIA holders, but I do have an issue with cooks and food supervisors crowding up the ITA pool. IRCC knows it, and they are fixing the problem.

 

[JALT]

I have a couple of questions!
1) Firstly, is the report provided by JALT, initially, a genuinely published report by IRCC in general? Or is it a response to the recommendations made by CERA?
2) Secondly, can someone help me understand the crs impact chart depicted through bubbles at the end of report more clearly?

The minister is holding round-table discussions on immigration with various stakeholders across the country, including CERC - The link I posted is for a presentation, not a report.

I believe when the meeting starts, MacCallum gives his presentation about past, present and future of Express Entry (i.e. the IRCC document), and then the round-table discussion starts on what he's just presented to the attendees.

That's what I think it is anyway...

 

[ButterflyChemist]

Maybe because one out of six ITA goes to the cook and supervisor positions? is cook the only low-skilled position Canada needs?

I have no bias against LMIA holders, but I do have an issue with cooks and food supervisors crowding up the ITA pool. IRCC knows it, and they are fixing the problem.

My point is that if the noc qualifies for Express Entry then it's not considered low skill by the powers that be. If they had a problem taking in more cooks then they wouldn't. They would stop issuing lmias or they would eliminate the noc for that profession from draws. I have a feeling many of you are a hoping for the demise of other groups to your own benefit will not be so pleased when these new changes your waiting with bated breath arrive.

 

[JALT]

I have a feeling many of you are a hoping for the demise of other groups to your own benefit will not be so pleased when these new changes your waiting with bated breath arrive.

But that's the sad reality of this immigration 'competition' - as I've said before, it's more like Battle Royale than an immigration process

If I knew all your addresses I'd come around and cut all your brake cables so I was the only person left in the pool

(not really obviously - I feel your pain just as much as mine..... just saying that we've become!)

 

[nagarjun rao]

The minister is holding round-table discussions on immigration with various stakeholders across the country, including CERC - The link I posted is for a presentation, not a report.

I believe when the meeting starts, MacCallum gives his presentation about past, present and future of Express Entry (i.e. the IRCC document), and then the round-table discussion starts on what he's just presented to the attendees.

That's what I think it is anyway...

Thank you for clarifying Jalt! I wasn't sure whether the presentation was made by CERA or IRCC. That information was very helpful!

 

[nagarjun rao]

If one of the reasons of reviewing whole lmia role in express entry is to make sure that they want to give more ITAs to candidates with high human capital factors, how would they deal with express entry Pnp's?

Even though we can say that lmia and express entry Pnp's are not similar, both of them will effect the candidates with more human capital factors in a same way. It's Intresting as government is not commenting anything on these pnps

 

[anarsoul]

Maybe because one out of six ITA goes to the cook and supervisor positions? is cook the only low-skilled position Canada needs?

I have no bias against LMIA holders, but I do have an issue with cooks and food supervisors crowding up the ITA pool. IRCC knows it, and they are fixing the problem.

What about hi-tech workers? The same amount of ITA goes to a software engineer/analyst/programmer.

 

[jianxia15]

Thanks for the summary!

 

[Alexios07]

I have a feeling many of you are a hoping for the demise of other groups to your own benefit will not be so pleased when these new changes your waiting with bated breath arrive.

I don't know why, but your wording sounds pretty condescending. This is a point-based system, for an economic program with a finite quota, so of course, if I get an ITA, the chance for other people to get one will be less. Even Mr. McCallum and IRCC recognize that with the current Express Entry system, former international students are having disadvantages compared to FSWs and other groups.

Don't you think by getting an LMIA you also robbed an ITA from someone in the EE system?

What about hi-tech workers? The same amount of ITA goes to a software engineer/analyst/programmer.

Not really, IT workers, Software devs and Web devs are only accounted for 11% of all ITAs in 2015. In addition, accepting more high-skilled workers like IT and Financial workers are always a good thing since they usually work in high paying job, and contribute better to the economic plan of certain provinces, like BC

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/bc-unveils-details-of-100-million-fund-for-flourishing-tech-sector/article27648035/
https://www.biv.com/article/2016/4/christy-clarks-liberals-tap-to-bc-tech-fund-manage/