PNP- PR ( CIC applicants SEPTEMBER and OCTOBER 2015)

[miyaz]

I got my GCMS today. 3 Sep 2015 applicant.

Everything is passed (Eligibility, Medical, Criminal) except security which is 'not started', its due date is 2 Dec 2016. Paper file location: PS

 

[roaringpanthers 12345]

I got my GCMS today. 3 Sep 2015 applicant.

Everything is passed (Eligibility, Medical, Criminal) except security which is 'not started', its due date is 2 Dec 2016. Paper file location: PS

Good to know that Something is going on with September files.
By the way, what is security check? I thought criminal checks and security checks were the same.

 

[miyaz]

Good to know that Something is going on with September files.
By the way, what is security check? I thought criminal checks and security checks were the same.

I don't have any idea about it. I wish I know : According to GCMS, even RCMP Screening is included in Criminality Section.

 

[87arq]

Good to know that Something is going on with September files.
By the way, what is security check? I thought criminal checks and security checks were the same.

Background Checks -EXPLAINED >>>
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Background & Security Checks

Note: Our Background Check comprises of 2 parts:
1. The Standard Documentation Checks,
2. The Security & Criminality Checks.

Standard Documentation Checks:
Our background check is done at the CHC stage. It commences the moment our file gets the 1st BFD by the VO. An indicator of which is the e-CAS that shows "In Progress". All docs been checked & our NOC being tallied against the MI, if the VO finds our case 'eligible' for Canadian PR, the file becomes 'Accepted'; and then it goes for standard background checks, viz. Exp, Quals, Adaptability, Qualitative Considerations etc.

The process involves many things. If our case file is well presented and the enclosures vouch the quality-quantity, adequate POF docs etc., there might not be a requirement of 'actually' calling the employers, references etc. The VOs have a way with that, they are experienced enough to ascertain the logical disposition of our case. But, if there are any concerns of his/her, s/he is likely to ask for additional docs, do further scrutiny vide any means [calling, visiting etc.] & might ask for an Interview.

-Culmination: When 'fully' satisfied, we get the 'Medical Request'.
-Timeframe: Can be anything around 3-8* months, for the 'fast track' system (Avg. 4-5 months).
-eCAS: Continues to Show 'In Process'.
*The older system has a queue, thus can be longer.

Security & Criminality Checks:
A part of the b/ground checks is the 'Security Check'. It commences after our med results are submitted to the CHC. This is a major activity -mainly concerning our 'safe inclusion' into the Canadian Soil; vis-a-vis, Political, Socio-Econmical, Anti-Social disposition, perceived Threat to Canada's integrity etc. This gets us the SDEC, CDEC & SECCRIM.

This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including CSIS, Interpol, NASC, Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here... the No. of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, ex-Servicemen [including Law Enforcement services], Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc.

If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', our case goes into a 'spin'. Then our file might go to the local Police/CID agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over by 5 months max. However, a point to be noted is that we can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason.

-Culmination: Only upon security clearance we receive the PPR.
-Timeframe: Around 2-6 months. Avg. 3 months. [With new system, sometimes PPR is clubbed with Meds]
-eCAS: Still 'In Process', but 'Med Results Recd.' inside.

*Yes, that's how a certain Mr. Sharukh Khan was detained for 4.5 hrs in an US port. He was a VIP, thus 4.5 hrs. For u & me -things could be different.
...
The Process in a Nutshell:

Stage-1: [CIO stage] Send Initial Apps+Processing Fees to CIO-NS > Qualitative Check > Issue of AOR+120 days Letter >

Stage-2: [CHC stage onwards] Send Full Docs+RPRF to the Local Visa Office > File on Queue > e-Cas: "Received by Visa Office" > Eligibility Check+PSDEC > Issue of 2nd AOR > Background Check > Issue of Additional docs Request [if any] > 1st BF'D > e-Cas: "In Process" > Send Addnl. Docs > Issue of Med Request > 2nd BF'D >

Stage-3: Meds Sent > e-Cas: "Medical Results Recd." > Issue of PPR* > Send Passport/s > Security Check > Visa/s Stamped > e-Cas: "Decision Made" >
*The Meds & PPR are sometimes 'clubbed' together.

Stage-4: Return of 'Stamped' Passport/s+COPR > Landing at the POE > e-Cas: "Completed".

 

[waitingwaiting]

Good to know that Something is going on with September files.
By the way, what is security check? I thought criminal checks and security checks were the same.

I heard Criminality is about "Local Crime" means within Canada.
But "Security Check" means worldwide, like if someone's background might be threatening to Canada or Canadians.
I think it makes sense

 

[Jovie]

September 9 2015 applicant here. Review of eligibility still in progress.



Application/profile status Open
Review of eligibility Review in Progress
Review of medical results Not needed at this time
Review of submitted documents .
Scheduling an interview Not needed at this time
A background check is needed Not needed at this time
Final decision Not yet.

I am worried why my background check is still not needed at this time. I am not sure if they have already gone through those steps. I also wonder if they do background checks before sending medical request.

Mine still the same nothing has changed too.. Sept applicant

MYCIC SHOWS:

Application/profile status Open
Review of eligibility Review in Progress
Review of medical results Passed
Review of submitted documents We need an additional document from the applicant (was submitted May 21 but not updated since then)
Scheduling an interview Not needed at this time
A background check is needed In Progress
Final decision Not Started

ECAS SHOWS:

Permanent Residence
1.We received your application for permanent residence on September 21, 2015.
2.We sent you correspondence acknowledging receipt of your application(s) on January 11, 2016.
3.We started processing your application on January 11, 2016.
4.We sent you correspondence on June 21, 2016. If you have not yet provided the information or the requested documents, please do so as soon as possible. Please wait until you receive the correspondence before sending us additional information, as the correspondence will outline all information that is required.
5.Medical results have been received.

 

[pnpab]

I got my GCMS today. 3 Sep 2015 applicant.

Everything is passed (Eligibility, Medical, Criminal) except security which is 'not started', its due date is 2 Dec 2016. Paper file location: PS

What is GCMS and what does it stand for? how did you get it? please let us know.

Thanks

 

[ramyfathalla]

I don't have any idea about it. I wish I know : According to GCMS, even RCMP Screening is included in Criminality Section.

Hello miyaz could you please tell me about your time line much more ?
by the way I ordered for GCMS notes too last July 25 today the tracking got 63% how long do you expect it will take to get mine according to yours ?

Thanks a lot

 

[waitingwaiting]

Man im just so tired of this Painful Wait honestly. Like i have literally lost my weight because of this uncertainty.
I left taking Protein shakes since 2 months ago just because i was thinking i am going to get MR soon and did not want to show up this Protein concentration in Urine/Blood.
Like i gave up everything for this MR. But honestly CIC has no feelings for us man.

 

[miyaz]

Hello miyaz could you please tell me about your time line much more ?
by the way I ordered for GCMS notes too last July 25 today the tracking got 63% how long do you expect it will take to get mine according to yours ?

Thanks a lot

Sure, here's my brief timeline

Application Received: 3 Sep 2015

File No Received: 2 Dec 2015

Reminder mail Received: 22 April 2016

Medical Request: 30 June

Medical Result Received : 22 July ('medical passed' shown on MYCIC earlier, 20 July)

I ordered my GCMS on 20 July and received it today - took exactly 30 calendar days

 

[ramyfathalla]

Sure, here's my brief timeline

Application Received: 3 Sep 2015

File No Received: 2 Dec 2015

Reminder mail Received: 22 April 2016

Medical Request: 30 June

Medical Result Received : 22 July ('medical passed' shown on MYCIC earlier, 20 July)

I ordered my GCMS on 20 July and received it today - took exactly 30 calendar days

Thanks buddy for your reply wish to you all the best

 

[roaringpanthers 12345]

I got my GCMS today. 3 Sep 2015 applicant.

Everything is passed (Eligibility, Medical, Criminal) except security which is 'not started', its due date is 2 Dec 2016. Paper file location: PS

Thanks again for sharing info.
So According to the info you mentioned, due date is Dec 2,2016 so we September shouldn't be expecting PPR until mid Dec 2016. And this makes the 15 months processing timeframe as well. Wow crazy.

My friend applied for pr under vulnerable sector care giver program and got PR in 1.5 months. I am not wrong just one and half month. He didn't apply for pnp nomination or Lmia. It's a new category I guess. Pissed off here.

 

[gurltwenty]

Anyone triend to apply BOWP 5 months before their existing WP expires? I am planning to go home to the Philippines this Christmas but my WP will expire on Jan 2017 (and my visa is expired). I'm pretty sure I have to renew my WP to get a TRV but I takes months to get a WP and I need to secure a visa before I leave. CIC website says existing WP should be due to expire within the next 4 months to be eligible for BOWP. I'm an Oct 2015 PR-PNP applicant and I don't think I'll get a decision anytime soon and I haven't even receive a medical request yet!

 

[azure04]

Anyone triend to apply BOWP 5 months before their existing WP expires? I am planning to go home to the Philippines this Christmas but my WP will expire on Jan 2017 (and my visa is expired). I'm pretty sure I have to renew my WP to get a TRV but I takes months to get a WP and I need to secure a visa before I leave. CIC website says existing WP should be due to expire within the next 4 months to be eligible for BOWP. I'm an Oct 2015 PR-PNP applicant and I don't think I'll get a decision anytime soon and I haven't even receive a medical request yet!

You can apply online, it's faster... Maybe 3 weeks...

 

[miyaz]

Thanks again for sharing info.
So According to the info you mentioned, due date is Dec 2,2016 so we September shouldn't be expecting PPR until mid Dec 2016. And this makes the 15 months processing timeframe as well. Wow crazy.

My friend applied for pr under vulnerable sector care giver program and got PR in 1.5 months. I am not wrong just one and half month. He didn't apply for pnp nomination or Lmia. It's a new category I guess. Pissed off here.

I need to correct the post...'due date 2 Dec' is for Security section. Due date on 2nd page of my GCMS is 2016/07/30 - which is expired long time ago :-/ Also, this GCMS is generated on 27 July. I assume that they probably moved my application due date few months later. I would be able to see this if I order another GCMS, but I won't do it now.
Personally, I'm happy to see every information on my GCMS is correct - including police certificates that I submitted. Enough for now


In my opinion, due date isn't very important or critical at all. Once they open our files to do 'security part' seriously, it won't take very long, I'm pretty sure. Like many applicants got 'DM' or 'PPR' soon after ECAS status showed 'In process' last year, 'last stage' of this processing won't take forever Let's hope they start opening and doing our applications soon. Best wish to everybody.