Please help- hmisabpk, qorax, explorer101 and all senior forum members :'(

[Jazzy2013]

Dear seniors,
I applied for Canada immigration in 2010 for better future of my kids, but luck didn’t favor me and I have been waiting since then. We are expecting our MR in coming months. Now problem is, my husband used to take alcohol and never had any health problem, but last year he diagnosed with jaundice so he gave up alcohol. Lately due to some stomach pain he visited doctor and after investigation got to know that he is having chronic liver disease and an initial stage of cirrhosis which is non-reversible. My husband needs a long term treatment, as his condition is critical and he will not get medical clearance if we get MR now, my husband insisting me to send request to VO for he is not accompanying us. He wants me and kids to get visa first and he will apply later in family class.

I am in shock, our Canada dream getting shattered, we have lost many opportunities in wait of this visa and now this is. We are not very well off in our country and want better future for our kids.Now i am worried for my husband too. :'(

I am still not in condition to take decision. Please suggest what will be the right decision at this moment.

If he is not accompanying us, does his medical condition be a hindrance in getting visa for me and kids.

Can we ask for extension of medical till his condition get better and stable.

Can he get visa in family class later? So many questions. :'(

Please help me with appropriate suggestion.

 

[Jazzy2013]

:'( :'(

 

[Smip86]

Hi Jazzy,

I am very sorry to know about the uncertainity happens with your family.

It may be a problem in ur case if u r spouse is already in u r application.

At this stage u can't with withdraw ur spouse name from application.

This is becoze VO works in a system, they assigned UID to applicant & in that UID whole family deatils are maintain.

Suppose if u mail them for non- accompanying of ur spouse, they will still need medical to be done.

In our case we have 1 yr kid & during application i specially mention that our kid will be join us later, in spit of that during medical request they ask for kid also.

Thumble rule of there working is they need medical clearance of each & every member mention in application whether accompanying or non accompanying.

If u don't mind my suggestion is go for medical becoze if u dnt u loss it & if u try may be luck is with u.

Regards
Dharmesh

 

[Jazzy2013]

Hi Jazzy,

I am very sorry to know about the uncertainity happens with your family.

It may be a problem in ur case if u r spouse is already in u r application.

At this stage u can't with withdraw ur spouse name from application.

This is becoze VO works in a system, they assigned UID to applicant & in that UID whole family deatils are maintain.

Suppose if u mail them for non- accompanying of ur spouse, they will still need medical to be done.

In our case we have 1 yr kid & during application i specially mention that our kid will be join us later, in spit of that during medical request they ask for kid also.

Thumble rule of there working is they need medical clearance of each & every member mention in application whether accompanying or non accompanying.

If u don't mind my suggestion is go for medical becoze if u dnt u loss it & if u try may be luck is with u.

Regards
Dharmesh

Thanks for your reply Dharmesh.
+1 for you.

i understand what u said but as per my understanding Medical inadmissibility is when someone have excessive demand to Canada medical system so they can refuse our visa due to my husband's condition, yes they will still ask medical for whole family I think that's to check for any hereditary disease in family. Which is not in our case so I think they can issue visa to rest of the family members.

Please correct me if i'm getting it wrong.

 

[amitsmeet]

if u are the principal applicant, u and kids can go ahead even if visa denied for husband, but if vice versa, nt possible

 

[scylla]

if u are the principal applicant, u and kids can go ahead even if visa denied for husband, but if vice versa, nt possible

Wrong. It doesn't matter who the principal applicant is. And it doesn't matter who is accompanying and who is not. If one family member fails the medical then the entire family is refused.

 

[scylla]

Thanks for your reply Dharmesh.
+1 for you.

i understand what u said but as per my understanding Medical inadmissibility is when someone have excessive demand to Canada medical system so they can refuse our visa due to my husband's condition, yes they will still ask medical for whole family I think that's to check for any hereditary disease in family. Which is not in our case so I think they can issue visa to rest of the family members.

Please correct me if i'm getting it wrong.

Unfortunately you are wrong.

Yes - medical inadmissibility is when someone will place an excessive demand on Canada's medical system.

However if your husband fails the medical then the application for your entire family will be refused. In other words, if your husband cannot pass the medical, you and your children will not get visas. Your whole family has to pass the medical for the visas to be approved. There is no way around this.

 

[Drooza]

Before taking any decsion make sure is this disease really matter in immigration, please continue his treatment and look for right advice. Good luck

 

[Jazzy2013]

Unfortunately you are wrong.

Yes - medical inadmissibility is when someone will place an excessive demand on Canada's medical system.

However if your husband fails the medical then the application for your entire family will be refused. In other words, if your husband cannot pass the medical, you and your children will not get visas. Your whole family has to pass the medical for the visas to be approved. There is no way around this.

Thanks scylla for reply.

 

[Jazzy2013]

Before taking any decsion make sure is this disease really matter in immigration, please continue his treatment and look for right advice. Good luck

Thanks drooza for advise.

 

[zardoz]

I wonder if the medical rules are designed to prevent exactly this plan where part of a family manages to get approved and then using a different class (family/spousal) to drag in the failed medical member, thereby defeating the whole purpose of the Excessive Demand test.

 

[scylla]

I wonder if the medical rules are designed to prevent exactly this plan where part of a family manages to get approved and then using a different class (family/spousal) to drag in the failed medical member, thereby defeating the whole purpose of the Excessive Demand test.

You are 100% correct.

 

[qorax]

Dear seniors,
I applied for Canada immigration in 2010 for better future of my kids, but luck didn't favor me and I have been waiting since then. We are expecting our MR in coming months. Now problem is, my husband used to take alcohol and never had any health problem, but last year he diagnosed with jaundice so he gave up alcohol. Lately due to some stomach pain he visited doctor and after investigation got to know that he is having chronic liver disease and an initial stage of cirrhosis which is non-reversible. My husband needs a long term treatment, as his condition is critical and he will not get medical clearance if we get MR now, my husband insisting me to send request to VO for he is not accompanying us. He wants me and kids to get visa first and he will apply later in family class.

I am in shock, our Canada dream getting shattered, we have lost many opportunities in wait of this visa and now this is. We are not very well off in our country and want better future for our kids.Now i am worried for my husband too. :'(

I am still not in condition to take decision. Please suggest what will be the right decision at this moment.

If he is not accompanying us, does his medical condition be a hindrance in getting visa for me and kids.

Can we ask for extension of medical till his condition get better and stable.

Can he get visa in family class later? So many questions. :'(

Please help me with appropriate suggestion.

Replied to u, just now, elsewhere.

 

[Jazzy2013]

Replied to u, just now, elsewhere.

Dear Ma'am,

I'm sorry to hear about ur situation and pray that ur hubby gets well soon without a/ny blemish.

However, with PR processing u r at a disadvantage - if ur hubby's med condition is serious & requires prolonged treatment/medication that requires state's intervention (remember, meds r free here, thus the Health Canada would require to assist u in any case), which posses addnl burden on the taxpayers; and that's viewed adversely for the PR processing.

I'm not aware of the intricacies of ur husband's diagnosis. Thus, I can opine much on it. Maybe it's not as serious as u think so. Maybe it can mitigate in due course with a correct treatment plan/strategy. In which case u r good. B'cos, even if u declare him 'unaccompanying' - he yet needs to get his meds done as part of ur PR processing. The same'd happen when we apply for our family's PR under FC class later, if we do. That'd get u guys a 'medical furtherance'... which is addnl tests & specialist's opinion... if that opinion is in the negative to ur cause -- u guys would be denied PR. If it goes positive -- u guys r good. In which case there'd be some delay - but eventually u'd receive ur PR.

Thus, u see, much depends on his condition, as opined by a DMP & his specialist... not as per what me or u think. Which is why, I'd suggest u to go ahead with his meds once u receive ur IMM1017S and leave everything else to God! Believe in the power of the Almighty... he has well chalked plans for all of us... which is always for our good!

God bless u folks.

Qorax

Thanks a lot qorax for such a sympathetic and sensible reply.

I wish i could give +1 to you (i am not allowed to give ratings)

 

[Jazzy2013]

I wonder if the medical rules are designed to prevent exactly this plan where part of a family manages to get approved and then using a different class (family/spousal) to drag in the failed medical member, thereby defeating the whole purpose of the Excessive Demand test.

You are 100% correct.

I am sorry you guys are getting me wrong here, my intention is not to take advantage of or cheat Canadian medical system, I already have paid processing fee for my husband and which is not refundable now and I am ready to pay again in family class just to get more time so that my husband's health get better. I already said he needs long treatment that is about 6 months or so. If I get visa now and then apply again for my husband in family class that would easily consume more than a years time and I am sure by that time my husband will be treated and must be in better health. So at that time he could get medical clearance.