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Permanent Residence Application DENIED!!!

PRapplicantPR

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May 8, 2013
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my Application for PR was denied, it was under the Post graduate work stream.
the reason they gave was:
"I am not satisfied that you meet the Canadian educational credentials as you have not provided evidence of having completed a program of study or training for two years before obtaining a Canadian educational credential.

I have also assessed wither applicant you meet the temporary foreign worker requirements. According to your employment letter, you worked as a graphic designer; however there is no description of the work you performed. In the absence of a description of duties, I am not satisfied you performed the duties"


i have all the documents to prove my having completed a program of study or training for two years before obtaining a Canadian educational credential and a new letter from my employee showing the duties i performed as related to my NOC, for the required minimum of 24 months.

Since the decision has been made will i have to re-apply and start the process over? can i submit the missing documents after the decision has been made, and they will revise it?or is there an option to go through lawyers and try to appeal the decision?

What are my options? and what is the best one?

thanks for all the helpful advice.
 

jsm0085

Champion Member
Feb 26, 2012
2,665
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Job Offer........
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PRapplicantPR said:
my Application for PR was denied, it was under the Post graduate work stream.
the reason they gave was:
"I am not satisfied that you meet the Canadian educational credentials as you have not provided evidence of having completed a program of study or training for two years before obtaining a Canadian educational credential.

I have also assessed wither applicant you meet the temporary foreign worker requirements. According to your employment letter, you worked as a graphic designer; however there is no description of the work you performed. In the absence of a description of duties, I am not satisfied you performed the duties"


i have all the documents to prove my having completed a program of study or training for two years before obtaining a Canadian educational credential and a new letter from my employee showing the duties i performed as related to my NOC, for the required minimum of 24 months.

Since the decision has been made will i have to re-apply and start the process over? can i submit the missing documents after the decision has been made, and they will revise it?or is there an option to go through lawyers and try to appeal the decision?

What are my options? and what is the best one?

thanks for all the helpful advice.
Your only option is to reapply.

You won't need require the educational component anymore only 12 months of FT (or PT equiv.) work experience.

Anyone thinking of reapplying without the required ref. letter should think again.
 

Cruiser55

Hero Member
Apr 18, 2013
441
4
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP - Ottawa
NOC Code......
0632
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02-07-2013
Doc's Request.
21.02.2014 RPRF and BIODATA requested
AOR Received.
27-08-2013
IELTS Request
CELPIP sent with application.
Med's Request
19.02.2014
Med's Done....
28.02.2014
Interview........
waived.
Passport Req..
10.04.2014
VISA ISSUED...
14.04.2014
LANDED..........
17.04.2014
jsm0085 said:
Your only option is to reapply.

You won't need require the educational component anymore only 12 months of FT (or PT equiv.) work experience.

Anyone thinking of reapplying without the required ref. letter should think again.
I agree with JSM.

I have, painstakingly, been working on my reference letter to make it as perfect as possible, because remember it is a PASS/FAIL situation and you ONLY GET ONE CHANCE, if your letter fails to establish you credibility for the CEC program, then this results in a denial.

Please re-apply.
 

Regina

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Feb 2, 2006
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Beautiful British Columbia
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I do not understand. Did you provide them with your official transcript from the university?And if yes how could they doubt? Maybe the school is wrong (without accreditation)?
 

steveholt

Star Member
Mar 13, 2013
85
7
Regina said:
I do not understand. Did you provide them with your official transcript from the university?And if yes how could they doubt? Maybe the school is wrong (without accreditation)?
It's not really clear from the original post whether that was in the original submission or something they have only obtained now (like the detailed work reference letter). My guess is the latter.
 

gong0704

Full Member
Apr 29, 2013
49
0
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
May/01/2013
AOR Received.
Jun/18/2013
IELTS Request
Submitted with Application
File Transfer...
RFRF and BIO: Feb/21/2014
Med's Request
Feb/18/2014
Med's Done....
Feb/22/2014
Interview........
Not requested
Passport Req..
Mar/6/2014
VISA ISSUED...
Mar/13/2014
LANDED..........
Mar/23/2014 (ECAS shows complete)
Your case get me nervous. I didn't list details of my duties on my background letter and reference letter. I just said I'm managing teams and responsible for all IT related system and problems. I've been in TFW for about 16 month under LMO with the same NOC, will CIC see my previous LMO and NOC? Also on my work permit paper, it has the similar occupation. My work contract (offer letter) did mention my work title as NOC title as well.
Should I be worried?
 

Regina

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2006
3,059
89
Beautiful British Columbia
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
It's not really clear from the original post whether that was in the original submission or something they have only obtained now (like the detailed work reference letter). My guess is the latter.
According to the first post there were to reasons to reject: 1. Unsufficient evidence of completed education.2. No job duties described in the reference letter.
 

pmpm

Hero Member
Jul 9, 2012
327
2
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07-03-2013
AOR Received.
18-04-2013
IELTS Request
Sent with application
Med's Request
10-10-2013
Med's Done....
15-10-2013; 25-11-2013 medicals received
Passport Req..
16-12-2013
LANDED..........
22-07-2014
Sorry to hear about this.
Could you post your timeline...When did you apply and from where the rejection mail came?
Thanks
 

pjcanada

Star Member
Mar 27, 2013
131
5
Toronto
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-06-2012
AOR Received.
01-08-2012
Med's Request
26-03-2013
Med's Done....
27-03-2013
Passport Req..
09-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
20-08-2013
LANDED..........
21-08-2013
gong0704 said:
Your case get me nervous. I didn't list details of my duties on my background letter and reference letter. I just said I'm managing teams and responsible for all IT related system and problems. I've been in TFW for about 16 month under LMO with the same NOC, will CIC see my previous LMO and NOC? Also on my work permit paper, it has the similar occupation. My work contract (offer letter) did mention my work title as NOC title as well.
Should I be worried?
You need to have all duties listed...if you already have your AOR, better to send updated employment letter with a covering letter..but please do not deviate too much from original letter....just add duties. There were cases earlier where revised letter caused problems.
 

CEC2013

Hero Member
Dec 8, 2012
866
48
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04 FEB 2013
Doc's Request.
26 NOV 2013 (RPRF)
AOR Received.
14 MAR 2013
IELTS Request
Sent with application.
Med's Request
27 NOV 2013
Med's Done....
29 NOV 2013
Interview........
Waived.
Passport Req..
09 DEC 2013
VISA ISSUED...
19 DEC 2013
LANDED..........
21 DEC 2013
gong0704 said:
Your case get me nervous. I didn't list details of my duties on my background letter and reference letter. I just said I'm managing teams and responsible for all IT related system and problems. I've been in TFW for about 16 month under LMO with the same NOC, will CIC see my previous LMO and NOC? Also on my work permit paper, it has the similar occupation. My work contract (offer letter) did mention my work title as NOC title as well.
Should I be worried?
In agreement with all of the above comments...this is a PASS/FAIL system, wherein the VO determines your eligibility, based on experience. If there is no supporting evidence or sufficient information (which is a letter that does not provide details), its likely they would assume that your duties do not match. Remember, the burden of proof remains with the principal applicant. Its on you to convince them that your experience is skilled...to which end, the reference letter is key, since it provides substantive background.
 

gong0704

Full Member
Apr 29, 2013
49
0
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
May/01/2013
AOR Received.
Jun/18/2013
IELTS Request
Submitted with Application
File Transfer...
RFRF and BIO: Feb/21/2014
Med's Request
Feb/18/2014
Med's Done....
Feb/22/2014
Interview........
Not requested
Passport Req..
Mar/6/2014
VISA ISSUED...
Mar/13/2014
LANDED..........
Mar/23/2014 (ECAS shows complete)
pjcanada said:
You need to have all duties listed...if you already have your AOR, better to send updated employment letter with a covering letter..but please do not deviate too much from original letter....just add duties. There were cases earlier where revised letter caused problems.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll do that when I receive AOR.