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Outland interview didnt go well. Pls help, Im very concerned

orestruz

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Apr 21, 2018
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Hi, my wife was selected for an interview in her native country, Ukraine. As per advice of our "lawyer" , she had nothing to worry about, it's a simple formality. She went there and met with a very rude officer at Canadian embassy in Kiev. The officer expressed her belief that our relationship is nothing more than marriage of convenience. It was apparent from the very beginning that officer has made up her mind BEFORE the interview even started. At the end of the interview , the officer threatened to ban my wife from visiting Canada for 5 years. She took her passport and without any explanation left the interview room. To say that we're shocked and literally live in the state of despair is to say nothing. Our relationship is genuine , we love each other very much! I don't know what the hell to really think right now..She has multi entry visa to Canada. Im ready to fight refusal to the end. What are the chances that they not only refuse our application , but also annule her tourist visa and ban her from visiting Canada for 5 years? Pls help
 
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KBH

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Sep 13, 2017
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Toronto, ON
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Mississauga
App. Filed.......
August 2nd, 2017
AOR Received.
September 22nd, 2017
File Transfer...
October 7th, 2017
Passport Req..
December 29th, 2017
VISA ISSUED...
January 23rd, 2018
LANDED..........
Feb 1st, 2018
Unfortunately your lawyer was wrong. A relationship interview is very serious and if you are called for one, it means they have doubts about the genuineness of your relationship. It's best to prepare for this as much as possible and order your case notes ahead of time so you can potentially see exactly what the cause for concern is and be able to produce more proof. It sounds like your wife may have gone in unprepared which might have led the interviewer to believe she wasn't taking it seriously and thus did not help her case. I am not sure what you can do at this point, but I would highly recommend pressing your lawyer for answers and perhaps even demanding a partial refund because a lawyer is supposed to be helpful in exactly this type of situation but instead he set you up for failure (based on what you have shared here).
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,168
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Hi, my wife was selected for an interview in her native country, Ukraine. As per advice of our "lawyer" , she had nothing to worry about, it's a simple formality. She went there and met with a very rude officer at Canadian embassy in Kiev. The officer expressed her belief that our relationship is nothing more than marriage of convenience. It was apparent from the very beginning that officer has made up her mind BEFORE the interview even started. At the end of the interview , the officer threatened to ban my wife from visiting Canada for 5 years. She took her passport and without any explanation left the interview room. To say that we're shocked and literally live in the state of despair is to say nothing. Our relationship is genuine , we love each other very much! I don't know what the hell to really think right now..She has multi entry visa to Canada. Im ready to fight refusal to the end. What are the chances that they not only refuse our application , but also annule her tourist visa and ban her from visiting Canada for 5 years? Pls help
Because neither you or we were at the interview, anything would be a guess. There must have been some serious red flags in the application for this interview to be required anyway. It's NOT routine or just a formality.

How long have you been married. How much time have spent physically in the same location? Are you from different cultures/religions or are your ages very different?
 

orestruz

Newbie
Apr 21, 2018
8
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Because neither you or we were at the interview, anything would be a guess. There must have been some serious red flags in the application for this interview to be required anyway. It's NOT routine or just a formality.

How long have you been married. How much time have spent physically in the same location? Are you from different cultures/religions or are your ages very different?
Thanks for your reply! We've been married for just under 1 year. Same culture, but she happens to be9 years older than me. Yes, I understand where you coming from, but our relationship is truly genuine. My biggest worry is if they take her visa away.. Is there even a slight possibility that she will end up getting her PR? Has anyone gone through similar process with "bad" officer and still got approved? Dont really know what the hell I should do. Cant eat, cant sleep, cant do absolutely nothing
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
13,298
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Canada
Category........
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Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Thanks for your reply! We've been married for just under 1 year. Same culture, but she happens to be9 years older than me. Yes, I understand where you coming from, but our relationship is truly genuine. My biggest worry is if they take her visa away.. Is there even a slight possibility that she will end up getting her PR? Has anyone gone through similar process with "bad" officer and still got approved? Dont really know what the hell I should do. Cant eat, cant sleep, cant do absolutely nothing
You didn't comment on how much time you spend physically together.. This is also important. This interview was her opportunity to convince the visa officer that it's genuine and address the red flag issues. I doubt that her TRV will be cancelled but who knows. Your "lawyer" has done you no favours.

How long had you been "engaged" before marriage and how long between marriage and the sponsorship application?
 

Buletruck

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Frankly, my personal belief is you and your spouse need to prepare for the possibility of a procedural fairness letter. I would start working on that now, just in case. You will need to address the reasons for refusal (given the marriage of convienience comments, I’d start there). The obvious goal is to get your spouse here, so I would focus your attention to dealing with that. Whether they revoke her TRV would be a secondary concern for me. The option for you to visit her is always available.
 

orestruz

Newbie
Apr 21, 2018
8
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You didn't comment on how much time you spend physically together.. This is also important. This interview was her opportunity to convince the visa officer that it's genuine and address the red flag issues. I doubt that her TRV will be cancelled but who knows. Your "lawyer" has done you no favours.
Thanks again for your comments! Well, we met in 2014, we started getting very serious in 2015. We started living together after we got married (May 2017)
 

Aabdul

Member
Dec 12, 2017
17
2
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Nairobi
Hi, my wife was selected for an interview in her native country, Ukraine. As per advice of our "lawyer" , she had nothing to worry about, it's a simple formality. She went there and met with a very rude officer at Canadian embassy in Kiev. The officer expressed her belief that our relationship is nothing more than marriage of convenience. It was apparent from the very beginning that officer has made up her mind BEFORE the interview even started. At the end of the interview , the officer threatened to ban my wife from visiting Canada for 5 years. She took her passport and without any explanation left the interview room. To say that we're shocked and literally live in the state of despair is to say nothing. Our relationship is genuine , we love each other very much! I don't know what the hell to really think right now..She has multi entry visa to Canada. Im ready to fight refusal to the end. What are the chances that they not only refuse our application , but also annule her tourist visa and ban her from visiting Canada for 5 years? Pls help
So sorry to hear that man. what proof did you provide in the beginning? Could the interview be a result of luck of proof?
 

orestruz

Newbie
Apr 21, 2018
8
1
So sorry to hear that man. what proof did you provide in the beginning? Could the interview be a result of luck of proof?
tons of pics, statements, travel documents. Everything that suggests there is nothing "fake" about our relationship as indeed it is as true as it can be
 
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mikeymyke

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Does she have relatives in canada? Has she attempted to enter or immigrate to Canada in the past? Was the wedding a traditional one or a quick court marriage? Did parents attend wedding? Is one partner divorced while other never married?
 

orestruz

Newbie
Apr 21, 2018
8
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Does she have relatives in canada? Has she attempted to enter or immigrate to Canada in the past? Was the wedding a traditional one or a quick court marriage? Did parents attend wedding? Is one partner divorced while other never married?
her daughter resides in Canada. The wedding took place in restaurant with two dozen guests..My mom was there, her mom coudnt leave Ukraine as she was ill. She came later on to visit us. Both divorced..
 

Aabdul

Member
Dec 12, 2017
17
2
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Nairobi
her daughter resides in Canada. The wedding took place in restaurant with two dozen guests..My mom was there, her mom coudnt leave Ukraine as she was ill. She came later on to visit us. Both divorced..
But I think taking your wife's passport was not the right move. As far as I can understand, she could have just refused to issue the visa. The VO must provide an explanation.
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,168
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
her daughter resides in Canada. The wedding took place in restaurant with two dozen guests..My mom was there, her mom coudnt leave Ukraine as she was ill. She came later on to visit us. Both divorced..
Based on the available information, you probably have a good chance at appeal, if it comes to that. I'm afraid that you will just have to wait now until you get more information about the application. There's not much that you can do until this happens. Maybe get a better lawyer lined up?
 

orestruz

Newbie
Apr 21, 2018
8
1
But I think taking your wife's passport was not the right move. As far as I can understand, she could have just refused to issue the visa. The VO must provide an explanation.
Yeah, just like that. Took her passport without any explanation and left. Im not here to criticize VO, however I think applicants deserve better than this
 
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mikeymyke

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Daughter residing in Canada is a bit of a red flag, as they may think your wife is marrying you just so they can reunite.

What were the circumstances behind how you guys met? Did the daughter introduce you to her?