ONLY - Who submitted CIC-AINP(SRS-U.S. Visa Holder Category) application

[jxyj01]

Hello Gang, Happy holidays

 

[jxyj01]

hello everyone, Today, I tried to make case specific inquiry, I received email in my inbox "delivery failure", then I tried to email re-cngny-immigration@international.gc.ca and NewYork-im-enquiry@international.gc.ca, I received same messages in inbox, 'delivery failure". Not sure what is going on with CIC NY servers.

 

[Ell.Bee]

Hi,

I read this on another forum. Google for "Mobility Rights of Canadian Permanent Residents under Provincial Immigration Programs".

A starting point for discussion is section 6 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Commonly known as the Canadian Charter or the Constitution Act, 1982, it is a series of legislative enactments dating back to the birth of Canada in 1867 that provides Canadians with basic rights in relations with government at all levels and binds all provincial legislative assemblies in Canada including the federal legislature, the Parliament of Canada. Section 6 provides permanent residents and Canadian citizens with the right to live and work in any province in Canada.

Section 6 reads:


Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave Canada.
Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a permanent resident of Canada has the right
to move to and take up residence in any province; and
to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.
In immigration matters, the implications of section 6 and mobility rights under the Charter is so significant that when a province selects an individual, the relationship becomes one that can be compared at best, to a “contract” with very limited scope and with ample legal rights in favour of the applicant.

Once the province in question selects the applicant, the federal department of Citizenship and Immigration will oversee admissibility issues, including health, security and (the truthfulness of an applicant's statements).

But after receiving a permanent residence visa and appearing at a port of entry for admission to Canada, once admitted, there is nothing that can come in between an applicant's mobility rights to live and work anywhere in Canada. The provinces who seek to attract newcomers under their provincial immigration programs are left to create their own enhancements that will attract and more importantly, retain immigrants.

This has been an ongoing challenge for the provinces as they are often used by prospective applicants as back door entry options to Canada, when they do not otherwise qualify for admission under the Federal Skilled Worker program.

Indeed, this has been a serious challenge facing Quebec since 1981, when it created its own comprehensive immigration programs highlighted by a skilled worker program, where employer sponsorship is not required. This year, Quebec will select 55,000 newcomers under all categories representing approximately 22% of the total admissions to Canada. This is by far the most of any province. Historically, the province of Quebec only retains a fraction of the applicants it actually approves. Applicants often decide to forego their contractual relationship to settle in Quebec and elect to settle elsewhere. This is especially the case under Quebec’s immigrant investor program which dominates the Canadian market of intending immigrants. Other provinces like Manitoba that promote its own skilled worker programs where employer sponsorship is not required, retention of immigrants is an ongoing challenge for policy makers.

And under the latest modifications to the Federal Skilled Worker program (November 2008) where an offer of employment by a sponsorship employer is a prerequisite for all except 38 primary occupations even before an applicant is assessed under the federal selection grid, the Provinces of Quebec and Manitoba are receiving increasing interest from prospective applicants who do not meet the strict federal selection rules.

Applicants must be mindful of the requirement to be truthful in their applications. The intention to settle in a province under a provincial immigration program must not be perceived to be untruthful as giving false statements is an offence under the Immigration Act.

But given that Canada’s residence rules are among the world’s most flexible, (applicant’s can theoretically leave Canada soon after becoming permanent residents for a period of up to 3 years while retaining their permanent residence status during this period of long absence), applicants who are afforded the protection of section 6 under the Canadian Charter, have large latitude to change their minds about where they want to live and work in Canada. There are no obstacles for Canadians to change their province of residence once permanent residence has been firmly established. Government officials in the federal and provincial immigration departments are well aware of this dilemma.

Given the current restrictive application of the federal skilled worker program, the provinces of Quebec and Manitoba will increasingly become attractive entry points to Canada. These provinces will face increasing challenges to retain their immigrants.

Applicants who are contemplating an immigration project to Canada and who cannot qualify under the federal skilled worker program are therefore encouraged to explore their options under provincial nomination programs within the context of the legal rights afforded by section 6 of the Canadian Charter.

 

[jag123]

Why no one whose file transfered to LA office is getting any ppr request? in which basis they are finalizing files? When you guys are expecting PPR request .My medical reached ottwa on 16th july then file transfered to LA office on 26th oct 2010. i did not get any E-mail or any communication from LA office.

Thanks

 

[whawhariff]

hello everyone, Today, I tried to make case specific inquiry, I received email in my inbox "delivery failure", then I tried to email re-cngny-immigration @ international.gc.ca and NewYork-im-enquiry @ international.gc.ca, I received same messages in inbox, 'delivery failure". Not sure what is going on with CIC NY servers.

I made a specific enquiry to New York yesterday too....First time, I received an email in my Spam "delivery failure", i tried again to email them in using CIC's website, this time i got an email in my inbox "delivery failure" again.....

I tried again today at 0830 hrs and this time I got 2 replies.... 1st was an out of office reply due to the holiday "In observance of Canadian Thanksgiving and Columbus Day, the Canadian Consulate General in New York will be closed for business on Monday, October 11. We will resume operations on Tuesday, October 12'

2nd one was a confirmation stating "Due to volume of applications, we will only respond to request for
application status if processing period posted on our website has been exceeded.

Dunno what's going on there....

 

[venky321]

Things are coming:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2010/ob251.asp

Peace

So I guess one should land in one's province to be safe. But it seems that after one become's a Permanent Resident, the person has rights are guaranteed by the Constitution......or the charter; namely to settle wherever one chooses.


So I guess it mostly comes down to ethics; if you choose to act in good faith to the program and not use the program as a back door entry to Canada since one did not qualify for the Federal stream. Probably the reason AINP scrapped the entire program was because they did not believe that a majority of applicants would use AINP as a way of settling in Alberta, but think of it as a back up to the US green card, or a way to get to someplace else in Canada.

 

[Avalap]

Hi SurenderJeet,

I haven't been to Calgary yet.
Toronto is a nice city, peaceful, multi-cultural... I loved it.
My wife and I currently live in US.

However, we are going to settle in Calgary, no matter if its better than Toronto or Not. I owe my PR gratitude to Alberta.

Avalap,

I went many blogs and find out Sworn letter is received many other candidate who applied through PNP route. Are you currently in Canada? Which city is better Toronto or Calgary?

 

[virgo]

Avalap,

Really great and appreciate your gratitue to Alberata.

>>>>

I have same time lines as Chigirl and I haven't received any thing so far and I am waiting on it.
>>>>

In my openion I believe that no body is misusing provencial nominee program. All we are doing things legally and we are paying the Fee .

Regarding the ethics, most of us studied in our native countries and didn't serve much there and came over to all these places for better oppertunities. We are all just doing it for our survival not with any other intentions.

Virgo

 

[chigirl]

Avalap,

Really great and appreciate your gratitue to Alberata.

>>>>

I have same time lines as Chigirl and I haven't received any thing so far and I am waiting on it.
>>>>

In my openion I believe that no body is misusing provencial nominee program. All we are doing things legally and we are paying the Fee .

Regarding the ethics, most of us studied in our native countries and didn't serve much there and came over to all these places for better oppertunities. We are all just doing it for our survival not with any other intentions.

Virgo

Hopefully you'll hear something next week. My check was cashed about a week ahead of yours.

 

[jxyj01]

Avalap,

Really great and appreciate your gratitue to Alberata.

>>>>

I have same time lines as Chigirl and I haven't received any thing so far and I am waiting on it.
>>>>

In my openion I believe that no body is misusing provencial nominee program. All we are doing things legally and we are paying the Fee .

Regarding the ethics, most of us studied in our native countries and didn't serve much there and came over to all these places for better oppertunities. We are all just doing it for our survival not with any other intentions.

Virgo

I agree that most of us are following the rules and trying to make our lives better, which is a universal human nature. That is the reason Europeans crossed cold Atlantic in boats to set foot on "New World". We have different rules to follow, so we are doing our best. Although we have received basic education in our native countries, that doesn't mean that emigration is not good for our home countries. Immigrants in US and Canada send billion of dollars back home. This not only helps home countries economically but also gives hope and motivation to youth back home to work hard and excel. Today's youth in China and India is highly motivated and energetic. Motivation is a very critical factor in any war, so it should not be underestimated. Fundamental rule for capitalism is doing best for oneself, and this helps everyone in long run. And other point, Alberta started this program in 2008 before the current economic crisis stated. Alberta was doing best for herself by inviting immigrants in its boom time. It is not that rampant abuse of the system led to closure of many immigration programs. In downturn all countries reduce immigration.

 

[josephdadreamer]

Chigirl,

Was the cheq for the rprf?

Hopefully you'll hear something next week. My check was cashed about a week ahead of yours.

 

[chigirl]

Chigirl,

Was the cheq for the rprf?

I sent my RPRF along with my application fee. They were both cashed on 4/22.

 

[Avalap]

Friends,

Here is an interesting article about PNP and residing in the nominating province.

http://www.smeurrens.com/2010/11/pnp-participants-denied-entry-at-the-border/

Hope this helps.

 

[tonyind]

Friends,

Here is an interesting article about PNP and residing in the nominating province.

http://www.smeurrens.com/2010/11/pnp-participants-denied-entry-at-the-border/

Hope this helps.

OMG

 

[surenderJeet]

Hi Avalap,

Good to know that you like to settle in Alberta.

I also do have plan to settle in Calgary Alberta once get PR.

I am also with family in Virginia. Keep in touch.

Do you know when do you have plan to be in Calgary in 2011?.