Only Managerial positions ? NO software professionals ?

[priyanka]

Hi all
I was getting ready to apply for Canada for permanent residency.
I got a couple of unofficial news that there have been changes to the qualification/skills and that Only people in Managerial/lead positions are eligible.
Is this true?
Are the Software Systems Analysts or Programmers/Developers not eligible anymore?

Please provide me with a confirmation of this.
Thanks!
Priyanka

 

[blueboy]

Yes. It is not unofficial. As per the NOC list there is 0213 for IT which is for Managers (Computer managers, project managers etc). Check this link for more details: http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2006/quicksearch.aspx?val65=0213 and http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2006/ViewAllTitlesQuickSearch.aspx?val=0&val1=0213&val65=*

It mainly depends on your job duties. Check out the first link and it shows what job duties/responsibilities will let you qualify.

PS: Ironically, even though 0213 is for managers, when you come here you probably won't get a managerial job. You will have to start with a software developer or so.

 

[priyanka]

Thank You!
Questions:
My current Title is Senior Systems Analyst but I have to be involved in some of the Managerial tasks mentioned on the first link. Will my Title qualify if I have that in the Resume?
And also, how and when do they verify if you have been in a Managerial Position?
Also, what does this in the first link mean?
Classified elsewhere

• Computer and information systems supervisors (in 217 Computer and Information Systems Professionals )
  Computer Engineers (Except Software Engineers and Designers) (2147)
  Computer Programmers and Interactive Media Developers (2174)
  Computer services company presidents (in 0013 Senior Managers - Financial, Communications and Other Business Services )
  Database Analysts and Data Administrators (2172)
  Information Systems Analysts and Consultants (2171)
  LAN managers (in 2281 Computer Network Technicians )
  Software Engineers and Designers (2173)

 

[ersum_max]

You may be eligible for the FEDERAL program if you have performed the following duties continuously for one year or more during the past ten years

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Responsible for Project management, Planing, Project initiation, scoping, estimation, costing and technical / functional specifications.
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Discuss project requirement with customers, out line the duration of project, cost analysis and time table of deliverables.
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Develop and implement policies and procedures for computer systems operations and development.
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Meet with clients to discuss system requirements, specifications, costs and timelines.
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Manage the team programmer and analyst to design, develop and implement the software applications.
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Supervise analysts and programmers.

 

[pv]

What ever you mentioned related to your job duties, it should be supported by refer letter or exp letter from your employer.
This is how they verify and in some case they may contact employer...

Advice - if you have exp under 6 yrs,, I am not sure how you will support and get exp letter with duties mentioned in NOC 0213.. now days CHC/CIC also look how true the exp is .. I mean if you have just 5 or 6 yrs of exp.. the IO/VO may think that exp is either less or not accurate.

As mentioned above by blueboy, we may end up doing system analysis job .. but thats a different story

spend good time on preparing your application..
good luck

 

[priyanka]

Thank You ALL
What if I am able to find a job(a non-Managerial position) in Canada and then start applying.
Would that takeout the Managerial position verification since I will have a job offer in-hand?
Is that the best way to approach?

Thanks!
Priyanka

 

[shareit]

If you manage to find a job in Canada, you do not have to satisfy the NOC 0213 requirement.

In that scenario, your application will be processed under a different category. For more details on that, check http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who-employment.asp

 

[commonwealth]

Management experience is required to qualify under NOC 0123. You might highlight your leadership experience as a lead. Good luck!

 

[priyanka]

I first want to see how good is the market and if I can get a job as that will actually make my future life easier as I will already have a job.
As a second option I will try applying by mentioning my lead activities at Job.
Thank You! All again!
Priyanka