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OLD IN PROCESS VS NEW IN PROCESS ON ECAS EXPLAINED

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2015sponsor said:
Hello Senior members,

I am new to this forum, Police certificate has expired last month, and I have obtained new police certificate...

1. How can I send the police certificate to CIC ? so my sponsorship application gets updated...

2. Upfront Medical has expired too, Shall I wait to get a response from Delhi High commission or just do another full medical exam...

Thank you for your reply

Police report must be original, send by courier. Wait for med request, they will give a special form for you to take when it is a remed
 

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Masriixo said:
Thank you so much for this. My husbands security is in process now and I always wondered what that entailed.

My husband has travelled a lot so hopefully this part doesn't take too too long. I'm ready to go home and start our life already.
AND READING FOUND, WICH IS INTERESTING

All about BF'D :
-Only for some of us who didn't know...

BF'D is an acronym for "Bring Forward Date" in the Canadian PR processing system. Usually our file moves from BF'D to BF'D, as it is the day/date next earmarked by our VO to check our file. This actually serves to eliminate unnecessary clogging of the system... that if there is nothing further to add in a particular file, the VO moves to another case file to work on, rather than holding onto the same one.

What happens on a BF'D
In simple terms it is the date that the file will be looked at [again], assessed, reviewed by your case handling officer at the CHC. S/he will check if anything is lacking, any further queries to be made [to you], any documents to be asked or if any decisive action is to be made/taken. Basically it serves as a 'Reminder Tool' to the case processing officer & that your file is not 'forgotten'.

Now, if the VO observes that something is lacking [that which was asked for], s/he will probably attempt to contact you on this BF'D day and mark another BF'D on your file. This depends on the subject of check [the all time phrase 'Case-to-Case' basis]. Sometimes, if the check report warrants, the VO might not give you another opportunity and take a decisive action. Note: The situation is fluid & no one can really provide a sanguine comment on it.

Will the file be 'only' looked at a BF'D
No. If something like reports, results, documents etc. [eg. background/security checks] comes to the CHC in between, your file gets opened and assessed. However, if nothing is received in between, you get another BF'D. Note once again: If they are waiting for something and it comes as expected then the file continues to be processed further, if not then the file will be next reviewed on the BFD 'only'.

An Example
Every time we get a letter/email from the CHC -it carries a 'time limit' to submit something, right? Say 45 days, 60 days or 90 days... the ending day of that time limit is our next BF'D. As an example, if the CHC sent you a medical request [alongwith the forms] on 02 Jan 2010; and it carries a 60 day's deadline -it means your file has been marked with the next BF'D of 01 Mar 2010.

However, if your medical results are received before the BF'D [01 Mar 2010], say on 05 Feb 2010 -your file will be further processed on that day itself [05 Feb 2010]. If the med results didn't come by earlier, then it will be opened on 01 Mar 2010 -the BF'D day.

How many BF'Ds we get
Some BF'Ds are 'routine', as exampled above. Then there are some which is either case generated or because of us. By 'case generated' I mean, [eg.] if one's Security Report is pending from an external agency -the VO gives a BF'D & waits. If the report comes in time, action is taken. If it doesn't, one gets another BF'D. And the situation continues...

By 'because of us'* I mean if the VO had asked us for a document [or a couple of them]. It is wise that we proceed to submit the document/s asap. Reason? The case moves faster [read: it'll open before the BF'D]. If we don't, s/he may try to contact us on the BF'D day & log another BF'D on our file [result: Delay/s].

Delays due to BF'Ds
As stated above, except the 'routine' ones, other BF'Ds do delay our process. At the least [best scenario] each BF'D would be a month apart. Some might be more. The ideal action on our part is to submit anything that has been asked for asap. That would negate a BF'D. However, there can be times that something we just might not be able to send asap. In that case we 'must' send it by the 'deadline' -that'd avoid another BF'D, won't it?

*Many Consultants [so called agents] erroneously advise us otherwise. Stating, "Oh you got the meds, don't worry you have time till 60 days to do it". That's a 'bull'. I'd advise -do it asap, if the speed of your case process matters to you.

This post I chose to write 'coz many members are either clueless about the BF'D issue or take it lightly. Which, albeit causes delays [without our actual intention]. Moreover, there are repeated queries on the subject in various threads. I hope this helped...
Qorax
 

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expectin said:
AND READING FOUND, WICH IS INTERESTING

All about BF'D :
-Only for some of us who didn't know...

BF'D is an acronym for "Bring Forward Date" in the Canadian PR processing system. Usually our file moves from BF'D to BF'D, as it is the day/date next earmarked by our VO to check our file. This actually serves to eliminate unnecessary clogging of the system... that if there is nothing further to add in a particular file, the VO moves to another case file to work on, rather than holding onto the same one.
do all notes have a BFD? i ordered mine 4mo after my file was in process and wud like to know where i can locate this BDF in my notes, idk i dont recall seeing this, but i cud've missed it.
 

k.kaur

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expectin said:
AND READING FOUND, WICH IS INTERESTING

All about BF'D :
-Only for some of us who didn't know...

BF'D is an acronym for "Bring Forward Date" in the Canadian PR processing system. Usually our file moves from BF'D to BF'D, as it is the day/date next earmarked by our VO to check our file. This actually serves to eliminate unnecessary clogging of the system... that if there is nothing further to add in a particular file, the VO moves to another case file to work on, rather than holding onto the same one.

What happens on a BF'D
In simple terms it is the date that the file will be looked at [again], assessed, reviewed by your case handling officer at the CHC. S/he will check if anything is lacking, any further queries to be made [to you], any documents to be asked or if any decisive action is to be made/taken. Basically it serves as a 'Reminder Tool' to the case processing officer & that your file is not 'forgotten'.

Now, if the VO observes that something is lacking [that which was asked for], s/he will probably attempt to contact you on this BF'D day and mark another BF'D on your file. This depends on the subject of check [the all time phrase 'Case-to-Case' basis]. Sometimes, if the check report warrants, the VO might not give you another opportunity and take a decisive action. Note: The situation is fluid & no one can really provide a sanguine comment on it.

Will the file be 'only' looked at a BF'D
No. If something like reports, results, documents etc. [eg. background/security checks] comes to the CHC in between, your file gets opened and assessed. However, if nothing is received in between, you get another BF'D. Note once again: If they are waiting for something and it comes as expected then the file continues to be processed further, if not then the file will be next reviewed on the BFD 'only'.

An Example
Every time we get a letter/email from the CHC -it carries a 'time limit' to submit something, right? Say 45 days, 60 days or 90 days... the ending day of that time limit is our next BF'D. As an example, if the CHC sent you a medical request [alongwith the forms] on 02 Jan 2010; and it carries a 60 day's deadline -it means your file has been marked with the next BF'D of 01 Mar 2010.

However, if your medical results are received before the BF'D [01 Mar 2010], say on 05 Feb 2010 -your file will be further processed on that day itself [05 Feb 2010]. If the med results didn't come by earlier, then it will be opened on 01 Mar 2010 -the BF'D day.

How many BF'Ds we get
Some BF'Ds are 'routine', as exampled above. Then there are some which is either case generated or because of us. By 'case generated' I mean, [eg.] if one's Security Report is pending from an external agency -the VO gives a BF'D & waits. If the report comes in time, action is taken. If it doesn't, one gets another BF'D. And the situation continues...

By 'because of us'* I mean if the VO had asked us for a document [or a couple of them]. It is wise that we proceed to submit the document/s asap. Reason? The case moves faster [read: it'll open before the BF'D]. If we don't, s/he may try to contact us on the BF'D day & log another BF'D on our file [result: Delay/s].

Delays due to BF'Ds
As stated above, except the 'routine' ones, other BF'Ds do delay our process. At the least [best scenario] each BF'D would be a month apart. Some might be more. The ideal action on our part is to submit anything that has been asked for asap. That would negate a BF'D. However, there can be times that something we just might not be able to send asap. In that case we 'must' send it by the 'deadline' -that'd avoid another BF'D, won't it?

*Many Consultants [so called agents] erroneously advise us otherwise. Stating, "Oh you got the meds, don't worry you have time till 60 days to do it". That's a 'bull'. I'd advise -do it asap, if the speed of your case process matters to you.

This post I chose to write 'coz many members are either clueless about the BF'D issue or take it lightly. Which, albeit causes delays [without our actual intention]. Moreover, there are repeated queries on the subject in various threads. I hope this helped...
Qorax
hi expectin
Is BFD i similar to due date.?
I have two due dates in notes..first due date in médical part That Is 1 April 2016.we r feb 2015 applicant .medical expired in Jan 2016.bt did nt receive remedical request till now...our eligibility is passed..no interview...then wt is the reason of delay...pls give me some suggestion
 

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k.kaur said:
hi expectin
Is BFD i similar to due date.?
I have two due dates in notes..first due date in médical part That Is 1 April 2016.we r feb 2015 applicant .medical expired in Jan 2016.bt did nt receive remedical request till now...our eligibility is passed..no interview...then wt is the reason of delay...pls give me some suggestion
Just expect a few days to ppr or decision made, your case looks good
As they did ask for your Medicals.
 

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expectin said:
Just expect a few days to ppr or decision made, your case looks good
As they did ask for your Medicals.
bt we r worried that why did nt they send remedical request till now if we passed eligibility
 

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Anyone help me regarding this!!!!!i didn't get SA..but my ecas shows in process both side..started processing my application...I used representative..so is that possible cic don't send SA,and process file?
 

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Saina said:
Anyone help me regarding this!!!!!i didn't get SA..but my ecas shows in process both side..started processing my application...I used representative..so is that possible cic don't send SA,and process file?
If your ECAS shows the applicants PR in process rest assured the sponsor has been approved.
 

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Saina said:
Anyone help me regarding this!!!!!i didn't get SA..but my ecas shows in process both side..started processing my application...I used representative..so is that possible cic don't send SA,and process file?
Did the representative not got that letter of SA Aproval??? Was your file transfer to Visa Ofice??
 

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expectin said:
Did the representative not got that letter of SA Aproval??? Was your file transfer to Visa Ofice??
yea cic agents r saying they hv sent.but my representative didn't get.we hv sent case specific enquiry.....waiting for result
 

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Saina said:
yea cic agents r saying they hv sent.but my representative didn't get.we hv sent case specific enquiry.....waiting for result
GOOD YOU SENT THE ENQUIRY, SO YOU GET TO KNOW IF THERES A MISTAKE BETTWEEN THE EMAIL THAT THE THE CIC
HAVE FOR YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMUNICATION AT ALL FROM CIC VIA YOUR REPRESENTATIVE?
 

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So just to clarify, If my application says IN PROCESS but when I go in it only shows

1. Application Received
2. Medicals received

that means it hasn't actually started to process yet? Am I still eligible for a refund at this stage?
 

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expectin said:
Will the file be 'only' looked at a BF'D
No. If something like reports, results, documents etc. [eg. background/security checks] comes to the CHC in between, your file gets opened and assessed. However, if nothing is received in between, you get another BF'D. Note once again: If they are waiting for something and it comes as expected then the file continues to be processed further, if not then the file will be next reviewed on the BFD 'only'.
Or even if something is received, but it's not perfect. I've just had my case delayed for 3 months (and counting) because of this nonsense.

Background check was requested in January, and they received it within a week, but we didn't hear anything back until March, when they informed us they didn't accept it. They were clearly aware that what they received was a response to their request, yet they apparently still didn't bother with it until the BFD. Turns out the agency messed up the check, didn't send fingerprints, etc. But there was no way for us to know this for 2 months.

To make it even worse, the actual problem with the documents wasn't even explained in this second letter. We immediately responded to the email explaining that we already did what they asked, and had brought the original request letter to the agency. This email was ignored for over a month (longer than the supposed 20 working day response time according to the auto-reply), until a third letter just a few days ago (the second BFD, presumably). By next week they should (hopefully) receive the correct files and continue processing.

What's going on here? Is it standard procedure to ignore all documents and emails until BFD unless it precisely conforms to their requirements? All this could have been completed months ago if they had simply reopened the file after they first received mail and communicated effectively.