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OINP - EE - Human Capital Priorities Stream - Comprehensive Guide

joaojr123

Hero Member
Apr 27, 2017
380
257
Good afternoon guys,

I have received my NOI last thursday (CRS 393, NOC 2171) and I´m stacking my documents to make the OINP profile. If possible, I´d appreciate some help from you who are going or have already went through the OINP process.

Here´s my checklist:

1. NOI from CIC page (duh)

2. Passport (mine and spouse)

3. Birth certificate + certified translations (mine and spouse)

4. Marriage certificates (my spouse had divorced prior to marrying me and her old certificate confirms the divorce, so I´m having both to prove we´re legally married) + certified translations

4. IQAS ECA, foreign certificates, foreign transcripts + certified translations (mine and spouse)

5. IELTS TRF form (mine and spouse)

6. Employer reference letters (from jobs that I claimed points) - those won´t need translation, they´ll be done in english + business cards from former/current boss

7. Work contract from old job and office assumption instrument from current (public job, there is no work contract) + translations

8. Proof of compensation:

- Income tax documents from 2015 to 2017. I will only provide personal data, payment and tax summary sections, or else I´ll have to translate 20 pages from EACH year!
- Pay slips from old job: first and last month (feb/2014 and sep/2014, I also have mar/2017 if necessary)
- Pay slips from current job: first and last six available (nov/2016 to apr/2017, may/2017 will probably be available this week)
- I will provide certified translations for everything

9. Settlement funds:

- All funds are in my spouse´s accounts
- Bank letter and statements (last six months) from bank account + certified translations
- Broker account letter and statements (since february, when the account was opened) from bank account. They can provide documents in english, so no need for translation. They´ll certify that the funds are unencumbered and readily transferable to her bank account in the letter
- Since all the funds are in spouse´s name, I´ll provide a notarized proxy letter authorizing me to use the accounts as I will (for each bank) + certified translations

9.1. Since funds have less than six months old, I´ll send supporting documents to proof source of funds

- Car sale in february - proof of sale (copy of signed and notarized car transfer document)
- Another car sale in april - this one will have the car transfer document and a contract, because we sold the car prior to clearing the car document status, and I´ll explain it in the LOE. The car was still in the name of the leasing bank, and the old owner has only found the transfer document last week. We´ll have to clear the lease, transfer to the old owner (the leasing company won´t transfer directly to my wife), then to my wife, then finally to the buyer. I´m dying inside to know that I´ll have to pay THREE car transfer fees, but it´s for a good reason...
- FGTS (work leave warranty fund) withdraw slips
- Tax return slips, and bank statments with the corresponding credit
- Gift deed from father-in-law with the remaining funds (we are CAD 4k short, we didn´t expect the NOI that soon!), probably by this week, He´ll issue a notarized gift deed - in Brazil sent by notaries as an Asset Donation Deed
- All documents will have their own certified translations

10. Résumé - will work on that during the week, my current one in portuguese already follows the canadian/NA standard, so it´s basically doing a translation.

11. Intent to reside in Ontario - will apply for a few jobs, and will also attach all my history regarding my interest to Ontario (which includes an e-mail chat with Conestoga College staff), and a brief settlement plan. Also, I DO have a tie in Ontario - one of my wife´s best friends is a canadian PR since 2013. She already told she can provide the PR card copy and a letter confirming the tie and telling she will help us with adaptation and job seach and reference (which she is actually doing as of now)

Well, having listed all that, I ask from you:

1. Do I need anything else, or am I good? If so, I expect to have everything ready by the end of the month, worst case early august. That´ll only depend on how long I take to clear the 2nd car´s situation.
2. Do I REALLY need the income tax documents, having work contracts and pay slips already? Aren´t those two enough?
3. Do I REALLY need more than two pay slips for each work, or am I safe if I provide sequential slips only for current job? I´ll have a hell of a time searching from old slips from my previous job. Also, from the current job, should I send all the six last slips, or three are enough (plus the first)? I ask that (and item 2 as well) because of certified translation expenses (cheapest I found was CAD 30-35 each page here in Brazil).
4. Does anyone know if they´ll ask for a hard ECA from IQAS, and how should I request it?
5. I had other jobs in the last 10 years (four companies, four years), but since I didn´t claim any points from them (hence they´re not relevant), I didn´t search from job history paperwork from those - and I don´t even have anything from them except for the work and welfare booklet (CTPS) registrations, sort of a simplified work contract and mandatory work document in Brazil. Can I place this information as personal information just as done in the federal EE profile, or MUST I regard all of them in the OINP profile as work experience? If I have to do the latter, should I simply don´t state any information and place what I´ve personally done in the past (I can do that without gaps), or should I place the work history, the work booklet page (and certified translations for each) and explain in the LOE I don´t have anything else from those past jobs?

Well, sorry for the enourmous piece of text, but I have one bullet, and it´ll cost me $1500, so I can´t miss. I thought about waiting to finish my postgrad (early september) and then do another ECA to go to 420-428 (my wife will repeat IELTS), but then I´d have to wait until late october best case scenario. After this 449 CRS draw, I´m positive opting for OINP in my specific case is a better bet, and I want to live in Ontario anyway (GTA or KWC if my wife´s friend can´t fetch a job for either of us in her company).

Thanks in advance, and good luck for all!
 

Shyam48

Star Member
May 6, 2017
75
18
Hi Guys,

I received NOI last week. My question is, in OINP profile do we have to give work history just same as CIC EE profile ?
I have 13+ yrs of ICT experience, in CIC profile i have listed all jobs since graduation. If i mention all of them in OINP, i might have to give work experience letters for all of them. It could take a lot of time as i had several jobs. Or should i keep just last 10yrs ?

Please suggest here.
Keep it 10 Years.
 

Shyam48

Star Member
May 6, 2017
75
18
Hi Folks
I got NOI last week. All other documents are handy but experience letter with duties may take some time. Is it advisable to submit profile on OINP portal with experience letter without duities and update it when it is available.
You cannot update your profile once you have submitted and paid CAD 1500. If you are willing to take a risk then do it and then if you are lucky enough then immigration officer will find that the information is not adequate and send you the mail for further information. At that time you can provide additional information letter of duties. But what if officer does not ask for information and directly rejects your application?

You can take risk as per your appetite.
 

BillHyatt

Champion Member
Apr 13, 2017
1,737
2,036
Toronto
Good afternoon guys,

I have received my NOI last thursday (CRS 393, NOC 2171) and I´m stacking my documents to make the OINP profile. If possible, I´d appreciate some help from you who are going or have already went through the OINP process.

Here´s my checklist:

1. NOI from CIC page (duh)

2. Passport (mine and spouse)

3. Birth certificate + certified translations (mine and spouse)

4. Marriage certificates (my spouse had divorced prior to marrying me and her old certificate confirms the divorce, so I´m having both to prove we´re legally married) + certified translations

4. IQAS ECA, foreign certificates, foreign transcripts + certified translations (mine and spouse)

5. IELTS TRF form (mine and spouse)

6. Employer reference letters (from jobs that I claimed points) - those won´t need translation, they´ll be done in english + business cards from former/current boss

7. Work contract from old job and office assumption instrument from current (public job, there is no work contract) + translations

8. Proof of compensation:

- Income tax documents from 2015 to 2017. I will only provide personal data, payment and tax summary sections, or else I´ll have to translate 20 pages from EACH year!
- Pay slips from old job: first and last month (feb/2014 and sep/2014, I also have mar/2017 if necessary)
- Pay slips from current job: first and last six available (nov/2016 to apr/2017, may/2017 will probably be available this week)
- I will provide certified translations for everything

9. Settlement funds:

- All funds are in my spouse´s accounts
- Bank letter and statements (last six months) from bank account + certified translations
- Broker account letter and statements (since february, when the account was opened) from bank account. They can provide documents in english, so no need for translation. They´ll certify that the funds are unencumbered and readily transferable to her bank account in the letter
- Since all the funds are in spouse´s name, I´ll provide a notarized proxy letter authorizing me to use the accounts as I will (for each bank) + certified translations

9.1. Since funds have less than six months old, I´ll send supporting documents to proof source of funds

- Car sale in february - proof of sale (copy of signed and notarized car transfer document)
- Another car sale in april - this one will have the car transfer document and a contract, because we sold the car prior to clearing the car document status, and I´ll explain it in the LOE. The car was still in the name of the leasing bank, and the old owner has only found the transfer document last week. We´ll have to clear the lease, transfer to the old owner (the leasing company won´t transfer directly to my wife), then to my wife, then finally to the buyer. I´m dying inside to know that I´ll have to pay THREE car transfer fees, but it´s for a good reason...
- FGTS (work leave warranty fund) withdraw slips
- Tax return slips, and bank statments with the corresponding credit
- Gift deed from father-in-law with the remaining funds (we are CAD 4k short, we didn´t expect the NOI that soon!), probably by this week, He´ll issue a notarized gift deed - in Brazil sent by notaries as an Asset Donation Deed
- All documents will have their own certified translations

10. Résumé - will work on that during the week, my current one in portuguese already follows the canadian/NA standard, so it´s basically doing a translation.

11. Intent to reside in Ontario - will apply for a few jobs, and will also attach all my history regarding my interest to Ontario (which includes an e-mail chat with Conestoga College staff), and a brief settlement plan. Also, I DO have a tie in Ontario - one of my wife´s best friends is a canadian PR since 2013. She already told she can provide the PR card copy and a letter confirming the tie and telling she will help us with adaptation and job seach and reference (which she is actually doing as of now)

Well, having listed all that, I ask from you:

1. Do I need anything else, or am I good? If so, I expect to have everything ready by the end of the month, worst case early august. That´ll only depend on how long I take to clear the 2nd car´s situation.
2. Do I REALLY need the income tax documents, having work contracts and pay slips already? Aren´t those two enough?
3. Do I REALLY need more than two pay slips for each work, or am I safe if I provide sequential slips only for current job? I´ll have a hell of a time searching from old slips from my previous job. Also, from the current job, should I send all the six last slips, or three are enough (plus the first)? I ask that (and item 2 as well) because of certified translation expenses (cheapest I found was CAD 30-35 each page here in Brazil).
4. Does anyone know if they´ll ask for a hard ECA from IQAS, and how should I request it?
5. I had other jobs in the last 10 years (four companies, four years), but since I didn´t claim any points from them (hence they´re not relevant), I didn´t search from job history paperwork from those - and I don´t even have anything from them except for the work and welfare booklet (CTPS) registrations, sort of a simplified work contract and mandatory work document in Brazil. Can I place this information as personal information just as done in the federal EE profile, or MUST I regard all of them in the OINP profile as work experience? If I have to do the latter, should I simply don´t state any information and place what I´ve personally done in the past (I can do that without gaps), or should I place the work history, the work booklet page (and certified translations for each) and explain in the LOE I don´t have anything else from those past jobs?

Well, sorry for the enourmous piece of text, but I have one bullet, and it´ll cost me $1500, so I can´t miss. I thought about waiting to finish my postgrad (early september) and then do another ECA to go to 420-428 (my wife will repeat IELTS), but then I´d have to wait until late october best case scenario. After this 449 CRS draw, I´m positive opting for OINP in my specific case is a better bet, and I want to live in Ontario anyway (GTA or KWC if my wife´s friend can´t fetch a job for either of us in her company).

Thanks in advance, and good luck for all!
You are almost fine but few things to note is OINP works completely different from CIC. You need to provide documents for jobs from last 10 years regardless of the fact you are claiming points or not.

No need to attach Income Tax Documents if you have payslips and Experience Letter stating salary.

ECA must be ordered online as per OINP guidance but no Hard Copy needed except where OINP asks to do so.

Be careful that you CV and Job Duties listed in Experience Letter must be similar and matches with lead statement of your primary NOC and it's duties listed in CIC website.

Looking at your scenario it seems that Immigration Officer will have a lot of Documents to look at.

Good Luck!
 

BillHyatt

Champion Member
Apr 13, 2017
1,737
2,036
Toronto
Hi Folks
I got NOI last week. All other documents are handy but experience letter with duties may take some time. Is it advisable to submit profile on OINP portal with experience letter without duities and update it when it is available.
You can't update it and job duties are the most important document that decides your Nomination. So have this before submitting application.
 

KASAK

Newbie
Nov 12, 2016
3
0
Hi All ,

I am working as a Software Test Engineer with around 6 Years of Experience in India. I created profile for express entry under Canada FSWP with NOC code 2173 and got the Ontario NOI but later I got to know that according to my designation, NOC Code 2173 is applicable but according to job responsibilities, NOC Code 2283 is applicable.

Now should I create a new EE profile with NOC code 2283 but what about the NOI that I have already received OR should i update my current profile to NOC code 2283 and carry on with the application .

Kindly help please by providing suggestions.
 

joaojr123

Hero Member
Apr 27, 2017
380
257
You are almost fine but few things to note is OINP works completely different from CIC. You need to provide documents for jobs from last 10 years regardless of the fact you are claiming points or not.

No need to attach Income Tax Documents if you have payslips and Experience Letter stating salary.

ECA must be ordered online as per OINP guidance but no Hard Copy needed except where OINP asks to do so.

Be careful that you CV and Job Duties listed in Experience Letter must be similar and matches with lead statement of your primary NOC and it's duties listed in CIC website.

Looking at your scenario it seems that Immigration Officer will have a lot of Documents to look at.

Good Luck!
Bill, thanks for your feedback.

Well, knowing that I won´t need tax documents is already a relief. 15 less pages to translate, big money saved!

I´m aware of job duties and NOC correspondence. I will adapt my documents (both résumé and reference letters) to the NOC format. NOC 2171 is pretty generic, so it´ll be easy. My other (older) job was listed as NOC 1241.

Well, since OINP works in that fashion, I´ll list only my personal history prior to 2014 then, since I can easily list (and prove if needed) it. I spent from 2006 to 2012 studying my undergraduate course (listed in transcript as full-time, it was actually a distance course but brazilian law forbids universities to show such information, due to labor market prejudice). The two year gap in the six year period (it was a four year program) is due to bad grades (and having to repeat subjects) and an authorized medical leave for one semester. I was unemployed from 2012 to 2014 anyway, trying admission for a public job in my city - the public job selection process in Brazil is very slow and honestly dumb, it consists of a bunch of written tests in which you have to study law, for example, without being related to your occupation at all, because Brazil. Labor market in Brasilia is cruel if you´re not looking for the public sector. That´s what I mean by no gaps in personal history (other than that, I traveled a few times in 2012 and 2013 inside Brazil, I´ll list those events as well).

My old work records are simply unreachable. Two of the companies have already gone bankrupt, and the other one simply won´t hand me a reference letter as per CIC format by no means (they already told me they won´t, it´s either their standard or nothing). The only company I might get such reference letter is for the period I worked to the Ticket group, and that was an eight month experience only.

And yeah, I know the OINP officer will have a lot of paperwork to look at, specially regarding proof of funds. But better safe than sorry, and I´ll need to explain the source of funds in the federal step as well, so I´ll be killing two birds with one stone. I already have my ECAs (hard and PDF copy from IQAS), so only for review, just send the scanned ECA and education records, right?

Also, the two slips (first and last) I have from the previous job should be fine then, right? As for the current job, first + last six is better or can I provide less slips?

Again, thank you very much!
 

somm2202

Hero Member
Jun 27, 2017
204
60
Does he really need Degree Certificates and
You are almost fine but few things to note is OINP works completely different from CIC. You need to provide documents for jobs from last 10 years regardless of the fact you are claiming points or not.

No need to attach Income Tax Documents if you have payslips and Experience Letter stating salary.

ECA must be ordered online as per OINP guidance but no Hard Copy needed except where OINP asks to do so.

Be careful that you CV and Job Duties listed in Experience Letter must be similar and matches with lead statement of your primary NOC and it's duties listed in CIC website.

Looking at your scenario it seems that Immigration Officer will have a lot of Documents to look at.

Good Luck!
Does he really need Foreign Degree Transcript and Certificate. I thought ECA is just enough.
 

joaojr123

Hero Member
Apr 27, 2017
380
257
Does he really need Degree Certificates and


Does he really need Foreign Degree Transcript and Certificate. I thought ECA is just enough.
The checklist says ECA, but I already noticed Canada has a taste for overbureaucratization. I saw a rejected EE aplication this week because the candidate hadn´t sent his IELTS TRF, despite the fact that the CIC page clearly saying that he only needed to send the TRF number. For this reason, people recommend sending the IELTS TRF along with the education documents.

If I can send the ECA with the education papers, I will, just to make sure.
 

hsp402

Hero Member
Dec 27, 2012
296
17
The checklist says ECA, but I already noticed Canada has a taste for overbureaucratization. I saw a rejected EE aplication this week because the candidate hadn´t sent his IELTS TRF, despite the fact that the CIC page clearly saying that he only needed to send the TRF number. For this reason, people recommend sending the IELTS TRF along with the education documents.

If I can send the ECA with the education papers, I will, just to make sure.
One has to send the copy of IELTS for OINP, TRF number is for making profile in CIC.
 

Mohdather

Star Member
Jul 1, 2017
89
10
Hi
It is better to write details at back and scan it. Attach two photos one digital one scan back side only with details.
Hi Bill , is it mandatory to have spouse ielts for OINP application. I am the primary and my wife didn't took ielts at all. Please reply
 

Mobinu

Star Member
Dec 21, 2016
167
39
For payslips, its better to have 2 playslips for each year, that will give more confidence to immigration officer to accept the fact that you are employed for a particular time period and the documents are not fake. (Basic aim of providing payslips is this)

Stamp Paper and notarization is same in your country? Surely can be. Then it will work. Also provide the business card of the person who is signing the reference letter to add more weight.
Can we use bank statement where each month its clearly seen that salary is coming?