OINP Duplicate ECA Copy Required from WES

[cjs]

On this link it does not give any option to send it to MCIIT. from where can we select MCIIT ?

 

[CanadaWeCome]

On this link it does not give any option to send it to MCIIT. from where can we select MCIIT ?

Guys...Cool...We understand this is very confusing for many...but let's put our collective mind together to figure out a way so we all apply the correct procedure.

To start with...Lets take the cue from those who have already done it. (Here i can only talk about WES because I have done it with them)

AFAIK @Rafzy and myself have done it and hopefully successfully (i just did it last friday...so my timer probably started last yesterday 11th Jan...It still doesn't show the tracking update though...although the say its a 1 Day TAT...but my guess is it should be sent to MCIIT in coming 3 days)

Please follow the below link as precisely described by @Rafzy
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/oinp-duplicate-eca-copy-required-from-wes-t385824.90.html

Coming to when should you guys do it?
My understanding is as follows:

Now that MCIIT (OINP) has put the notification on their website, both the groups whether you got AOR or waiting for AOR should go ahead and order for it.

Why am i saying this is because if you sift through all the info on this topic and some of the communications sent out by OINP so far, you'll eventually realize that WES actually doesn't send any physical hard copy to MCIIT (by snail mail) since MCIIT (OINP) is an authorized agency for WES to access their reports online (thorough login) provided the applicant provides (read orders) them the access to their ECA report or it may be something like when MCIIT logs in to view/request for a particular applicant's ECA report and WES initiates a mail (provided the applicant has already authorized (ordered duplicate)) from (authorized mail id/user) of their server to MCIIT and send the ECA as a mail attachment (Probably with ECA number of he applicant in the subject line) so that its easily searchable by MCIIT at a later stage (when the take up your application for review).

Hence, what i started with is anyone who has applied for OINP based on PT (AOR/No AOR yet) can and should apply for a duplicate report from WES (and likely spend that C$96.05) so that MCIIT gets your original ECA (In case you haven't got AOR yet, they will anyway include your ECA to your application whenever they browse through your application to generate an AOR.

Probably all the above are a figment of my imagination and not true (except the ordering method part)...Take it or leave it...but with my limited experience this is my take on this very deliberately confusing situation that OINP has stumbled upon to make our already harsh life further difficult.

Thanks!

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

Guys...Cool...We understand this is very confusing for many...but let's put our collective mind together to figure out a way so we all apply the correct procedure.

To start with...Lets take the cue from those who have already done it. (Here i can only talk about WES because I have done it with them)

AFAIK @Rafzy and myself have done it and hopefully successfully (i just did it last friday...so my timer probably started last yesterday 11th Jan...It still doesn't show the tracking update though...although the say its a 1 Day TAT...but my guess is it should be sent to MCIIT in coming 3 days)

Please follow the below link as precisely described by @Rafzy
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/oinp-duplicate-eca-copy-required-from-wes-t385824.90.html

Coming to when should you guys do it?
My understanding is as follows:

Now that MCIIT (OINP) has put the notification on their website, both the groups whether you got AOR or waiting for AOR should go ahead and order for it.

Why am i saying this is because if you sift through all the info on this topic and some of the communications sent out by OINP so far, you'll eventually realize that WES actually doesn't send any physical hard copy to MCIIT (by snail mail) since MCIIT (OINP) is an authorized agency for WES to access their reports online (thorough login) provided the applicant provides (read orders) them the access to their ECA report or it may be something like when MCIIT logs in to view/request for a particular applicant's ECA report and WES initiates a mail (provided the applicant has already authorized (ordered duplicate)) from (authorized mail id/user) of their server to MCIIT and send the ECA as a mail attachment (Probably with ECA number of he applicant in the subject line) so that its easily searchable by MCIIT at a later stage (when the take up your application for review).

Hence, what i started with is anyone who has applied for OINP based on PT (AOR/No AOR yet) can and should apply for a duplicate report from WES (and likely spend that C$96.05) so that MCIIT gets your original ECA (In case you haven't got AOR yet, they will anyway include your ECA to your application whenever they browse through your application to generate an AOR.

Probably all the above are a figment of my imagination and not true (except the ordering method part)...Take it or leave it...but with my limited experience this is my take on this very deliberately confusing situation that OINP has stumbled upon to make our already harsh life further difficult.

Thanks!

I really appreciate your perspective but IMHO, there is a LOT of speculation. If it were as cheap as re-creating a profile (which takes around 15 minutes), we could try this but there is money involved. So, IMO, unless we get a clarification from Ontario, I suggest that we stick to the existing procedure of waiting for the email. I might be wrong. Would really appreciate if other members can pour in their suggestions!

 

[farazh89]

I think either way should work. Upfront ECA or later when requested. Personally I would wait for a request from them to submit. A good way to know that your application is being worked upon, rather than dead silence for months until nomination.

 

[CanadaWeCome]

I really appreciate your perspective but IMHO, there is a LOT of speculation. If it were as cheap as re-creating a profile (which takes around 15 minutes), we could try this but there is money involved. So, IMO, unless we get a clarification from Ontario, I suggest that we stick to the existing procedure of waiting for the email. I might be wrong. Would really appreciate if other members can pour in their suggestions!

While i agree with you here that money is involved, but you need to do it only once. I mean MCIIT cannot force you to order it again on WES website when you can show them you have already ordered a duplicate ECA report to be sent directly to MCIIT, and the proof gets recorded on WES website as your order (under process or already executed). So if you are skeptical that you may need to do it again (thereby waste the first order) when you receive AOR, that fear may be unfounded.

My only concern here was, now that they have published this notification/update on their website, they should not wait for applicants to proactively order (the duplicate) upfront before they declare their application as complete to issue them an AOR. This should not lead to people perennially waiting for the AOR and MCIIT eventually rejecting it on the basis of not sending them the ECA report directly from the agency (knowing MCIIT they are much capable of doing so) especially when we know they have been rejecting applications for the lack of 4 digit job seeker codes.

Also please recall the below sentence in their notification that says "Please also note that the information in this program update supersedes information found in the OINP application guides and forms for the Human Capital Priorities Stream and the French-Speaking Skilled Worker Stream."

This is the scary part as it now assumes this is part of the application procedure (Application Guide) and should be adhered to by all applicants and we (MCIIT) aren't going to remind you for it.

Anyway that's the way i looked at it...i am too in it...so lets wait and watch.

 

[rafzy]

While i agree with you here that money is involved, but you need to do it only once. I mean MCIIT cannot force you to order it again on WES website when you can show them you have already ordered a duplicate ECA report to be sent directly to MCIIT, and the proof gets recorded on WES website as your order (under process or already executed). So if you are skeptical that you may need to do it again (thereby waste the first order) when you receive AOR, that fear may be unfounded.

My only concern here was, now that they have published this notification/update on their website, they should not wait for applicants to proactively order (the duplicate) upfront before they declare their application as complete to issue them an AOR. This should not lead to people perennially waiting for the AOR and MCIIT eventually rejecting it on the basis of not sending them the ECA report directly from the agency (knowing MCIIT they are much capable of doing so) especially when we know they have been rejecting applications for the lack of 4 digit job seeker codes.

Also please recall the below sentence in their notification that says "Please also note that the information in this program update supersedes information found in the OINP application guides and forms for the Human Capital Priorities Stream and the French-Speaking Skilled Worker Stream."

This is the scary part as it now assumes this is part of the application procedure (Application Guide) and should be adhered to by all applicants and we (MCIIT) aren't going to remind you for it.

Anyway that's the way i looked at it...i am too in it...so lets wait and watch.

Seconded with your conclusion about wes eca time of delivery.

 

[maged_mmh]

Seconded with your conclusion about wes eca time of delivery.

Salam Rafzy,

I emailed them and this is what I got:

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program (OINP).

The OINP Processing Officer will have access to the World Education Services database and will be able to search your personal information from there.

Therefore, your Case Number or your File Number are not required on the report.

As of December 4th, 2015, an original OR official 'copy' of your ECA report must be sent directly from the ECA organization to OINP for your foreign degree(s).

OINP officers are to send email requests to applicants whose ECA organization did not provide original or official copies of their ECA reports for their applications.

Therefore, it is preferable that you wait for such email request.



Program Updates, What's New - http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNPNEW.html

Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program Contact Information - http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNPCONTACT.html


I hope this has been of some assistance to you.

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

Salam Rafzy,

I emailed them and this is what I got:

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program (OINP).

The OINP Processing Officer will have access to the World Education Services database and will be able to search your personal information from there.

Therefore, your Case Number or your File Number are not required on the report.

As of December 4th, 2015, an original OR official 'copy' of your ECA report must be sent directly from the ECA organization to OINP for your foreign degree(s).

OINP officers are to send email requests to applicants whose ECA organization did not provide original or official copies of their ECA reports for their applications.

Therefore, it is preferable that you wait for such email request.



Program Updates, What's New - http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNPNEW.html

Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program Contact Information - http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNPCONTACT.html


I hope this has been of some assistance to you.

Thank you. So, they are asking applicants to wait for an e-mail. Good! That's what I thought!

Thanks for posting this!

 

[PiyushAgrawal06121985]

Salam Rafzy,

I emailed them and this is what I got:

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program (OINP).

The OINP Processing Officer will have access to the World Education Services database and will be able to search your personal information from there.

Therefore, your Case Number or your File Number are not required on the report.

As of December 4th, 2015, an original OR official 'copy' of your ECA report must be sent directly from the ECA organization to OINP for your foreign degree(s).

OINP officers are to send email requests to applicants whose ECA organization did not provide original or official copies of their ECA reports for their applications.

Therefore, it is preferable that you wait for such email request.



Program Updates, What's New - http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNPNEW.html

Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program Contact Information - http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNPCONTACT.html


I hope this has been of some assistance to you.

Great information. Thanks a ton for letting us know! +1 to you

 

[shashidhar_sm]

As of December 4th, 2015, an original OR official 'copy' of your ECA report must be sent directly from the ECA organization to OINP for your foreign degree(s).

So, if I have already sent in the original copy of my ECA (the hardcopy that WES sent me by snail-mail) in my application package to Ontario, I will not be asked for a duplicate ECA report from WES?

 

[maged_mmh]

So, if I have already sent in the original copy of my ECA (the hardcopy that WES sent me by snail-mail) in my application package to Ontario, I will not be asked for a duplicate ECA report from WES?

wait for them, either they'll go with what you provided, or they'll ask for WES access, in which case you'll pay about 70$

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

So, if I have already sent in the original copy of my ECA (the hardcopy that WES sent me by snail-mail) in my application package to Ontario, I will not be asked for a duplicate ECA report from WES?

No, it doesn't work that way. They require a copy directly from WES. Do not send your original ECA report.

 

[arifurrahman]

Hi there,

I have messed up Big time. I have sent my application package on 31-Dec-2014 which was delivered by DHL on 4-Jan-2016. However, I had included a print-out of the Soft copy of my WES ECA report (I was being really stupid there). I had the print copy notarize before sending it (not so smart move I presume). I am currently waiting for AOR, and I just noticed on OINP website there is an update about sending duplicate ECA report directly from WES. Is there any chance I can save my application from getting rejected by sending a duplicate ECA directly from WES?

I am loosing my sleep! Please help me out guys.



Should I request a Duplicate ECA report from WES to be directly sent to OINP, I have a question regarding filling out the duplicate ECA report request form. When I selected OINP from add recipient, there is a field where they ask who should the delivery attention to. Whose name should I put into this field?

Thanks in advance.

 

[dhavaladesai]

While i agree with you here that money is involved, but you need to do it only once. I mean MCIIT cannot force you to order it again on WES website when you can show them you have already ordered a duplicate ECA report to be sent directly to MCIIT, and the proof gets recorded on WES website as your order (under process or already executed). So if you are skeptical that you may need to do it again (thereby waste the first order) when you receive AOR, that fear may be unfounded.

My only concern here was, now that they have published this notification/update on their website, they should not wait for applicants to proactively order (the duplicate) upfront before they declare their application as complete to issue them an AOR. This should not lead to people perennially waiting for the AOR and MCIIT eventually rejecting it on the basis of not sending them the ECA report directly from the agency (knowing MCIIT they are much capable of doing so) especially when we know they have been rejecting applications for the lack of 4 digit job seeker codes.

Also please recall the below sentence in their notification that says "Please also note that the information in this program update supersedes information found in the OINP application guides and forms for the Human Capital Priorities Stream and the French-Speaking Skilled Worker Stream."

This is the scary part as it now assumes this is part of the application procedure (Application Guide) and should be adhered to by all applicants and we (MCIIT) aren't going to remind you for it.

Anyway that's the way i looked at it...i am too in it...so lets wait and watch.

Okay guys relax. Good news I just called the Ontario helpline support and they told me that if you have already submitted the WES report then you do not require to ask for a separate WES report they will automatically contact WES and WES will provide them with email copy of the same result.

Okay So can any one confirm the same ? This is the phone number +1416-327-0374 > Click 1 for English then > 0 for talking to a representative .

Can any one call and confirm the same so that we all can have peace of mind for once.

 

[cjs]

Hi there,

I have messed up Big time. I have sent my application package on 31-Dec-2014 which was delivered by DHL on 4-Jan-2016. However, I had included a print-out of the Soft copy of my WES ECA report (I was being really stupid there). I had the print copy notarize before sending it (not so smart move I presume). I am currently waiting for AOR, and I just noticed on OINP website there is an update about sending duplicate ECA report directly from WES. Is there any chance I can save my application from getting rejected by sending a duplicate ECA directly from WES?

I am loosing my sleep! Please help me out guys.



Should I request a Duplicate ECA report from WES to be directly sent to OINP, I have a question regarding filling out the duplicate ECA report request form. When I selected OINP from add recipient, there is a field where they ask who should the delivery attention to. Whose name should I put into this field?

Thanks in advance.

it's OK, don't worry they are already asking for eca copy directly from WES. they ll ask you to provide one. so your application is fine.