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ingeb

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dhasha1 said:
Well my thought is, they will speed up the process of nomination now because they need to meet their quota else it will go waste.

As everyone said earlier, their quota is 5500, i don't think they have sent out even a 1000 NOMs this year.

Also, they were the one sending the PT notification, then how come they receive more applications then anticipated!

Again these are just my thoughts.
Do think they are handing out nominations but not everyone is on this forum..
Concerning the PT notification: it was an open invite. You didnt have to respond so I think more people responded than anticipated and maybe more people in the 400+ bracket than expected. Dont forget, its a new system.
 

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ingeb said:
Do think they are handing out nominations but not everyone is on this forum..
Concerning the PT notification: it was an open invite. You didnt have to respond so I think more people responded than anticipated and maybe more people in the 400+ bracket than expected. Dont forget, its a new system.
I think we are just a small subset of applicants. We are max 1000 applicants in the forum (including Oct., Nov., Dec., Jan. and Feb applicants).

Also, they could have send PT Notifications in batches. Instead of sending bunch of PTs or send less PTs. I guess they are suppose to distribute their quota over the year, too. That's why it's called yearly quota.
 

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NEW UPDATE!
I took my returned application and went to the pnp office this morning to argue this. Because my money order is still valid, and my study permit, passport are not missing. This basically means that my application is complete, and not incomplete as they said. So I wait for a while and talk to their manager, indicated that this is not my fault while the mistakes should be made at your end. Then, like the manager said "today is your lucky day", I got my application resubmitted.
The quote from a different thread.
I guess its the only way to talk to them, as calling doen't work.
So, maybe someone in Toronto could visit them and aks for updates or some clarification.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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ingeb said:
Honestly, I don't think there is not much they can do at the moment. My guess.. they have the number of people working in the office that is enough for giving (lets just say) 5000 nominations in 2016. It doesnt make sense to increase this workforce because they cannot give out more nominations this year. There is no use in hiring x more people, nominating everyone in July and then don't have a job in Aug-Dec. They will probably keep working at this pace and announce a new (more selective) instruction in November. They will def not invite everyone above 400 crs cause they have learned that that is just too many people.
For us, the long wait is the enormous response they have gotten. And currently we are being delayed because they are looking at everyone with expiring work permit (they have been nominated in the last weeks). Hopefully, soon they will start nominating the FSW people, starting at the bottom.. there are July people waiting!! Then slowly slowly slowly move forward.. Guess they will start nominating Nov people from Aug or Sept..
They have issued only around 870 nominations from June - December in 2015. So, lets do some math.

The quota for 2015 was 2700 for EE applicants (Human Priorities Capital Stream AND French Speaking Skilled Worker Stream). Assuming they have the same quota for 2016 as well, that makes it 2700 + 2700 = 5400 nominations for EE streams alone in 2015-16.

So, at the end of the year, they had 2700-870 = 1830 nominations left over from 2015 quota. Add that to 2700 of this year's quota <1830 + 2700 = 4530 nominations>. Total quota that would have been available in January 2016 is 4530 nominations.

Assuming they issued 1500 (very unlikely but let us consider the higher end numbers) nominations this year (from Jan till June), they still have 3030 nomination slots this year or on an average, 505 nominations per month (July - December 2016). Lets assume that 1000 of those will nominations will be issued to French Speaking Skilled Worker Stream applicants. They still have 3030-1000 = 2020 nomination slots (336 nominations per month) for Human Priorities Capital Stream applicants.

This is only a rough estimate. My point is, they still have large number of vacancies to be filled. The workforce I was talking about is to handle the exceptionally large number of PTs they sent in January 2016 alone (around 1800 PTs?). Lets assume 500 out of those are incomplete (1800-500 = 1300). Now, they have the responsibility to handle all those 1300 applications, send AORs to them.

I speculate that once they are done sending AORs to December applicants, they might start issuing nominations to November applicants (Might start in July/August). Ideally, they ought to be doing this simultaneously but then, they might not have been able to follow this plan because of resource limitation.

What do you think?

<<Some assumptions were made and the post contains speculation>>
 

rajkamalmohanram

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dhasha1 said:
I think we are just a small subset of applicants. We are max 1000 applicants in the forum (including Oct., Nov., Dec., Jan. and Feb applicants).

Also, they could have send PT Notifications in batches. Instead of sending bunch of PTs or send less PTs. I guess they are suppose to distribute their quota over the year, too. That's why it's called yearly quota.
Precisely. They have issued ridiculously large number of PTs in January alone and that might have made their workload go off the charts.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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dhasha1 said:
Well my thought is, they will speed up the process of nomination now because they need to meet their quota else it will go waste.

As everyone said earlier, their quota is 5500, i don't think they have sent out even a 1000 NOMs this year.

Also, they were the one sending the PT notification, then how come they receive more applications then anticipated!

Again these are just my thoughts.
Out of the 5500 total nominations, only 2700 of them are reserved for EE.
 

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I would remind you that according to file numbers they received around 1400 complete applications in November as a part of 2016 quota.
and between June and November 2015 around 3000 AORs were issued. (2015 quota)
 

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rajkamalmohanram said:
Precisely. They have issued ridiculously large number of PTs in January alone and that might have made their workload go off the charts.
Even if they did receive more applications than they can handle, they need to follow the First In First Out (FIFO) principle.

They should not even look at the other applications till the quota is filled out and then return the remaining apps or keep them till the next quota is available.

This would help them to clear the backlog and those who are in the pending pile can be asked to send fresh DDs when they are ready to process them.

Also, I really do think Ontario should request for more nomination slots to be reserved for them.
 

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I hit 90 days post AOR today.....cant even feel optimistic since there are a lot of others with way more days post AOR.....
 

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195 days after AOR!! And I don't even win this..
 

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AORs are raining for December applicants. Good news! Hopefully, once they are done with AORs for December applicants, I speculate that they might start issuing nominations to November applicants. Hopefully.
 

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rajkamalmohanram said:
AORs are raining for December applicants. Good news! Hopefully, once they are done with AORs for December applicants, I speculate that they might start issuing nominations to November applicants. Hopefully.
Yes. Lets hope for that, right now thats the most sensible thing for them to do..