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OHIP card is not renew because of BOWP

Hichaman

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Guys you don't need work letter for BOWP to apply for new OHIP card you can apply with AOR email, since you have a pending PR app, you only need peice of ID and AOR letter thatès all I had to submit to get my new OHIP card, you also need your current work permit, no need for employment letter.

check quotes from Health.gov.on.ca

"You may be eligible for the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP) if you are included under one of the following categories:
you have submitted an application for permanent residence in Canada, and Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence in Canada"

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/publications/ohip/ohip_eligibility.aspx
 

Amisnic

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You are wrong!!

Those who think along these lines are "selective readers".

Please read the complete documentation on the CIC website and you will find otherwise.

Those who have not been asked for an employment letter were just simply lucky if they were not working.




Hichaman said:
Guys you don't need work letter for BOWP to apply for new OHIP card you can apply with AOR email, since you have a pending PR app, you only need peice of ID and AOR letter thatès all I had to submit to get my new OHIP card, you also need your current work permit, no need for employment letter.

check quotes from Health.gov.on.ca

"You may be eligible for the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP) if you are included under one of the following categories:
you have submitted an application for permanent residence in Canada, and Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence in Canada"

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/publications/ohip/ohip_eligibility.aspx
 

Hichaman

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AOR Received.
03-2014
IELTS Request
Sent with the application
File Transfer...
03-2014
Med's Request
04-2015
Med's Done....
04-2015
Interview........
Waived Alhamdolilah
Passport Req..
06-2015
VISA ISSUED...
06-2015
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Amisnic said:
You are wrong!!

Those who think along these lines are "selective readers".

Please read the complete documentation on the CIC website and you will find otherwise.

Those who have not been asked for an employment letter were just simply lucky if they were not working.

what do you mean bro, I asked the lady at the front, if she needs my work letter she said, she only needs to see CIC letter, for AOR. it clearly say that in the website, you can try it your self. if you need ohip, They cannot deny you it, because you dont have work letter. thats what the website say.
 

Tonimir

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Last year, here in Mississauga, when I went to extend my OHIP card , the BOWP paper wasn't enough.
And the employee there insisted of me bringing an Employment Letter, along side with the WP and my Passport.

I doubt the AOR is enough "document" for granting you the "OHIP" card. After all, the card is issued to Temporary Resident, because he is a Worker. Otherwise, he won't get the service.
 

pfse

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Tonimir said:
Last year, here in Mississauga, when I went to extend my OHIP card , the BOWP paper wasn't enough.
And the employee there insisted of me bringing an Employment Letter, along side with the WP and my Passport.

I doubt the AOR is enough "document" for granting you the "OHIP" card. After all, the card is issued to Temporary Resident, because he is a Worker. Otherwise, he won't get the service.
The employee there was completely wrong and/or didn't know the rules.

Here are the rules:

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/programs/ohip/ohipfaq_mn.aspx

You may be eligible for the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP) if you are included under one of the following categories:
  • ...
  • you have submitted an application for permanent residence in Canada, and Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence in Canada;
  • ...
And to prove that you are eligible you need:

If you are applying for Ontario health insurance coverage as an Applicant for Permanent Residence, you are required to present written confirmation from Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) that you are eligible to apply for permanent residence in Canada, which may be one of the following :

  • CIC Confirmation Letter – letter on CIC letterhead addressed to the Applicant for Permanent Residence that confirms that the applicant is eligible to apply for permanent residency in Canada;
  • CIC Immigration document such as a Work Permit, Visitor Record, Temporary Resident Permit or Study Permit with note in the “Remarks Section” that indicates that you have applied for permanent residence
.
 

Amisnic

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20-03-2015
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02-06-2015
What about this condition (from the same webpage):


Open work permit holders (including those in CIC’s Post-Graduation Work Permit Program) may be eligible for Ontario health insurance coverage provided they are employed full-time for an employer in Ontario for a minimum of six months, have a valid work permit during this time, and they:
•maintain their primary place of residence in Ontario; and are
•physically present in Ontario for at least 153 days in any 12-month period; and are
•physically present in Ontario for 153 of the first 183 days immediately after establishing residency in the province.

Further information on the changes concerning Temporary Foreign Workers can be found on a fact sheet entitled “Temporary Foreign Workers”.



pfse said:
The employee there was completely wrong and/or didn't know the rules.

Here are the rules:

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/programs/ohip/ohipfaq_mn.aspx

And to prove that you are eligible you need:
 

pfse

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Amisnic said:
What about this condition (from the same webpage):


Open work permit holders (including those in CIC's Post-Graduation Work Permit Program) may be eligible for Ontario health insurance coverage provided they are employed full-time for an employer in Ontario for a minimum of six months, have a valid work permit during this time, and they:
•maintain their primary place of residence in Ontario; and are
•physically present in Ontario for at least 153 days in any 12-month period; and are
•physically present in Ontario for 153 of the first 183 days immediately after establishing residency in the province.

Further information on the changes concerning Temporary Foreign Workers can be found on a fact sheet entitled “Temporary Foreign Workers”.

Read it again. See what is marked in bold. This is not about "open work permit holders". This is about applicants for PR.
 

Hichaman

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Amisnic has no idea what he's talking about...
 

Amisnic

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Ok, conceded.


Hichaman said:
Amisnic has no idea what he's talking about...
 

rohangk

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Sharing my experience.
I went to the Brampton Service Ontario to renew my OHIP.
I have a BOWP with Remarks 'APR Pending' but i was asked for employment letter.
The guy at the counter said employment letter is not required if 'APR Approved', but since 'APR Pending' i need employment letter.
 

Tonimir

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rohangk said:
Sharing my experience.
I went to the Brampton Service Ontario to renew my OHIP.
I have a BOWP with Remarks 'APR Pending' but i was asked for employment letter.
The guy at the counter said employment letter is not required if 'APR Approved', but since 'APR Pending' i need employment letter.
Same thing happened with me at Mississauga Service Ontario last year.


Note: APR Pending is stated in the Remarks section of the Work Permit.
 

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It's more tricky than that.

To be eligible for OHIP coverage you have to meet following condition:
http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/publications/ohip/ohip_eligibility.aspx said:
you have submitted an application for permanent residence in Canada, and Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence in Canada
The problem is with the part I put in bold.
With BOWP the situation is clear: you can only get BOWP if you've been found eligible for PR by CIC (see the quoted text below).

With just AOR it's slightly different, because AOR is not always a confirmation of eligibility - it depends on the program you're using to get your PR.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob485.asp said:
Determining if a Positive Eligibility Decision has been made

For the purposes of determining if a positive eligibility assessment has been made, the processor will review if the Eligibility Assessment value is set to “Passed” in GCMS. If this decision has not been entered yet, for the purposes of this Operational Bulletin (OB), a “positive eligibility decision” will also be considered made when it is confirmed in GCMS that:

  • FSWP: the “Ministerial Instructions” status has been set to “Met” or a positive Final Determination of Eligibility letter/ e-mail has been sent.
  • PNP: the “Eligibility EC-QC/PNP” status has been set to “Passed” or the Acknowledgment of Receipt letter/e-mail has been sent by the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).
  • CEC: the “Eligibility CEC” decision has been set to “Passed” or the Acknowledgement of Receipt letter/e-mail has been sent from CIO.
    [*]FSTP: the Acknowledgement of Receipt letter/e-mail has been sent from CIO.



As you can see for CEC PR applicants AOR is a confirmation of eligibility and is enough to get OHIP.
 

s3nr1

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Hi, I recieved ITA, applying under CEC, currently still working on the documents needed, but my PGWP is set to expire in around 2 months.

After submitting the application do I get the AoR the same day as some has suggested, some mentioned months, but after getting AoR I can extend straight extend OHIP? How long will it be valid for?

Is it best to apply for bowp first ? but I don't want any gaps in my medical coverage and in that case I should apply to extend right after getting aor? I'm currently working full time, for over a year now, and have group insurance .