NEW RULES ANNOUNCED for PARENTS & GRAND PARENTS VISA - Effective 5 Nov 201

[kittylona]

Hi

Maybe we should just wait until the announce the rules and applications for the "super visa" ? Then there can be a logical discussion without the guessing what it all means?

Hi PMM:
You are right...may be at this point our only option is to wait and see the rules CIC will publish about the Super Visa on Dec 1 ,2011.

 

[hinavin]

The worrying bit is the higher cost that many are speculating and rightly so. The example from PMM may not be far from the truth, once the new rules are ultimately announced. The re-designing of the program aspires to address the fiscal load this program creates along with addressing the traffic / pace of processing.

What sounds like a good plan of action is for some folks like me to decide is there another province to settle in where bringing in my Mother as well as younger brother may be possible in an year's time or so. Something like the Newfoundland & Labrador program. Provided all other things like finding employment and settling down etc also look reasonably feasible. And considering the NL PNP lasts as it is today for another 2 years or so. (we are landed immigrants, planning to come back in an year's time - permanently).

But I suppose the PNP programs may follow suit (might?). There may be some more PNPs out there - the question is how feasible will it be for an Indian family, to try to settle down outside the hot-spots of GTA / Vancouver. (economically that is - because wife, 2 yr old daughter and I would perhaps love a smaller town life).

Decisions decisions...more research...and life goes on!

 

[locolynn]

Hi

Maybe we should just wait until the announce the rules and applications for the "super visa" ? Then there can be a logical discussion without the guessing what it all means?

Uhm...where's the fun in that?

Locolynn

 

[Indigo]

Re: New Rules for Parents & Grand Parents Visa - Effective 5 Nov 201

You are misunderstanding. As of right now, the Parents/Grandparents sponsorship application process is CLOSED. Nobody can apply. They are going to use the 24 months to revamp the program. They will not even consider H&C applications in this category now. Anybody who was in the cue as of November 5th will continue processing but anyone who had not applied yet is out of luck and have to see if and when the program will re-open.

The application process for Parents/Grandparents is indeed closed. They said it will be closed for up to 24 months. That means they will re-open it in 24 months, or perhaps sooner (let's hope so for everyone who wants to apply but hasn't done so yet, and now has to wait). Meanwhile they will deal with the applications that have been submitted before nov 5.

Not sure what I'm misunderstanding here...

 

[bbiery]

I am glad to see they are requiring private insurrance be purchased. It is not fair to taxpayers to front the cost for parents/grandparents medical bills when they have not contributed and will likely not in the future.

 

[rjessome]

Re: New Rules for Parents & Grand Parents Visa - Effective 5 Nov 201

No, you are wrong. After you click "Who can apply" in http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/provincial/index.asp, you would prompt to list of provinces participating in the program. When you click "Newfoundland", webpage would redirect you to http://www.nlpnp.ca/, which says:

The Newfoundland and Labrador Provincial Nominee Program (NLPNP) can provide an alternate and quicker entry into Canada. It allows Newfoundland and Labrador to nominate applicants who qualify under provincially established criteria for Permanent Resident Status. The NLPNP offers:

- a quicker immigration process for qualified skilled workers, family members, international graduates and entrepreneurs who wish to settle permanently in Newfoundland and Labrador.
- assistance from provincial program officers who are available to explain the program requirements and processes.

You're still wrong. Family stream through Provincial Nominee Programs are still considered Economic Class applicants. Saskatchewan and Manitoba have them as well. And when CIC records which category they go under in their stats, it's PNP category of the Economic Class.

 

[rjessome]

Re: New Rules for Parents & Grand Parents Visa - Effective 5 Nov 201

No, there may still be chances if you meet the requirements to sponsor them in Newfoundland through NLPNP:

http://www.nlpnp.ca/family.html

It's not only the requirements to sponsor them, THEY must also meet the requirements of the program to be eligible to be sponsored.

In addition, you are eligible to be sponsored as a Relative if you:

Are between 18 - 49 years old;
Have a signed Affidavit of Support from one or more family members in Newfoundland and Labrador;
Have completed post-secondary education, training, or apprenticeship of at least one year in length that has resulted in a diploma, a certificate or a degree;
Have at least one year of related work experience;
Have adequate English language ability either to do the job you have been offered by a Newfoundland and Labrador employer, or to get a job in your field of education or training;
Have a full-time, permanent job offer from a Newfoundland and Labrador Employer; or intend to find full-time, permanent work in Newfoundland and Labrador.
Have enough money to live in the province for a short time without work after arrival ($10,000 for the applicant and $2,000 for each accompanying family member).
Have the intention to reside in Newfoundland and Labrador; and
In addition, your English language ability must be verified by one of the following:

An Affidavit of English Language Ability from a Newfoundland and Labrador employer who has offered you a permanent job
Education/training documents language testing results; or
You may be required to attend ESL (English as a Second Language) courses prior to your arrival in Newfoundland and Labrador and provide documentation that you have done so. You may also be required to take ESL classes upon arriving in Newfoundland and Labrador.

 

[steaky]

Re: New Rules for Parents & Grand Parents Visa - Effective 5 Nov 201

You're still wrong. Family stream through Provincial Nominee Programs are still considered Economic Class applicants. Saskatchewan and Manitoba have them as well. And when CIC records which category they go under in their stats, it's PNP category of the Economic Class.

Well, CIC should update their website to make it easier to understand. ;D

How about Quebec? Is the parent sponsorship doors still open?

 

[rjessome]

Re: New Rules for Parents & Grand Parents Visa - Effective 5 Nov 201

How about Quebec? Is the parent sponsorship doors still open?

No. They didn't have a separate economic program allowing family members or parents. They used the federal Family Class program too.

 

[hinavin]

Regarding getting your parents through the PNP streams, as far as I could see all PNP streams - Newfoundland, Saskatchewan, Manitoba...have an upper age limit of 49 years for the 'relative'. I suppose that results in excluding many parents - mine included.

 

[Newbie1234]

Supervisa is only for those who applied for their parents already or it is for anyone?
It says it is only for parents of Canadian Citizen? or it is just a mistake

 

[TRUONGAN]

Supervisa is only for those who applied for their parents already or it is for anyone?
It says it is only for parents of Canadian Citizen? or it is just a mistake

where does it say that? where does it say super visa is for parents of Canadian citizen only?

 

[Newbie1234]

On the official website, under F Q and A section

 

[Newbie1234]

Here it is:

Parents and grandparents of Canadian citizens who have been found admissible to Canada and meet some other conditions are eligible for the Super Visa.

Visa officers consider several factors before deciding if the person is admissible. This means they are a genuine visitor to Canada who will leave by choice at the end of their visit. Among the things that could be considered are:
•the person’s ties to the home country,
•the purpose of the visit,
•the person’s family and financial situation,
•the overall economic and political stability of the home country, and
•invitations from Canadian hosts

 

[kittylona]

Here it is:

Parents and grandparents of Canadian citizens who have been found admissible to Canada and meet some other conditions are eligible for the Super Visa.

Visa officers consider several factors before deciding if the person is admissible. This means they are a genuine visitor to Canada who will leave by choice at the end of their visit. Among the things that could be considered are:
•the person's ties to the home country,
•the purpose of the visit,
•the person's family and financial situation,
•the overall economic and political stability of the home country, and
•invitations from Canadian hosts

Yes if we look at this section it clearly states "Canadian Citizens" so one can also conclude that even parents of permanent residents who have already filed for their parents initial sponsorship application before Nov 5, 2011 wont qualify for the Super Visa just by the mere fact that their sponsoring Canadian relatives (sons/daughters) are not Canadian Citizens yet.

I guess it will all be black and white when they publish the paperwork for the Super Visa on their website on Dec 1 2011.Till then it just remains a matter of an individual's interpretation.