We just got a letter from CIC , stating our appl is closed that we can reapply if we want if we have the info they wanted (wich is meds for my husbands 21 and 19 yr old, wich we were not able to get) does that mean we can try and do an outland, through Berlin???? or is it no use, since we cannot get any info on the kids??? also can they just say after four years Oh thanks for your money but youre not getting pr CASE CLOSED is that how it works???? we were willing to sign anything waiver and stuff...now what visitor permit runs out in Jan 2012 They gave no instruction on our options...anyone any ideas ????