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Narratives on Relationship Development

Coldstream63

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I'm just curious as to whether CIC weighs one narrative more than the other in making the determination of whether the relationship is genuine or not.

In other words, do you suppose they put more weight on the applicant as opposed to the sponsor?

I ask because the narrative I write (and reference to specific pieces of evidence) will likely be pretty encompasing, while my wife, who speaks/writes English as a second language, will be less so.

While I'll be helping her with it to make sure we cover everything, it just made me curious.

Thanks folks.
 

Rob_TO

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To put in perspective, neither my wife (applicant) nor I (sponsor) included any narratives at all. We just stuck to the lines provided for each question on the relationship form to explain everything. And we had no problems getting PR approved.

So I wouldn't worry about "weight" being added to one of your narratives over the other. As they are not actually required in the application, just including them at all is a bonus. Won't matter at all if yours is comprehensive and hers is more simplistic.
 

Coldstream63

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Alright, good to know.

Thanks for the response! :)
 

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I don't think anyone knows how much one narrative weighs compared to the other - it may depend on the person processing the case, and I don't think it's a factor in the decision anyway.

I think it will be fine as long as they do read your narrative as well as hers. I forgot - is your narrative going in the relationship proofs? Or is it going in your application to sponsor her?

Either way, if you want to be doubly triply sure, perhaps in your wife's part of the application, she could mention something like "also, please take a look at my husband's statement, attached (where)." or something like that.
 
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mikeymyke

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Personally I would do it, there's no harm in doing so. My wife and I each did a narrative, and they weren't exactly duplicates either. She described our relationship development from her point of view, as did I.

Take it from me, there's absolutely no such thing as too much stuff in a PR application. Throw everything you've got at them including the kitchen sink.

I also added an additional narrative for them, in that I describe why our relationship and marriage is genuine, maybe if you want you can do it too. Here's mine:

Our relationship is very genuine for many reasons. My wife and I only have a three year age difference. We both are post-secondary educated. We both can speak a common language, which is English. We are both half Vietnamese/Chinese, so we share common cultural interests. We both share the same values and beliefs in life, such as the importance of being in a monogamous relationship, having a family together, not going out so much and preferring to stay at home, don't like to drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, etc. We both have common interests such as watching movies, playing certain video games, travelling, etc. We both took a Vietnam trip across the country, Jan 2013, and it was my wife's idea to climb the tallest mountain in Southeast Asia, Fansipan, even though we both have never climbed a mountain before, and we had to even sleep overnight on the mountain. We waited an entire year after the proposal to get married rather than rushing to get married quickly. I worked 2 jobs in 2013 to save up enough money for our wedding, while my wife did most of the planning, money deposit, booking, and organizing of anything wedding related. She even custom designed our wedding logo, and made many wedding decorations on her own, including the Superman/Spiderman wedding invitation. We had a full traditional wedding ceremony with reception.

I've met her parents and family many times, she has met my parents and siblings many times. Both our parents and families would eat out together a lot and share conversations. My entire family in Canada and relatives in Ho Chi Minh City, including XXXXXX (stepdad's sister), came all the way from Hong Kong and Canada, to attend our wedding. Also, my wife's entire family and relatives came to our wedding, including those living abroad such as XXXXXX (cousin from France), her boyfriend XXXX and friend XXXXXXX (both from France). My wife had taken a trip to Hoi An with my parents and brother for a couple days, and it was her idea. She also took a trip with my parents, brothers, and cousin to Phan Thiet city for a couple days. We took 2 honeymoons after the wedding. Therefore, it is very clear that our relationship and marriage is genuine.

My wife and I have discussed many times, what our plans are for when she comes to Canada. She is a healthy, young woman of working age, can speak English, and has lived in the US for a year, so she can adapt to Canadian society very well, plus I make a very good salary as a 4th year electrician (will become a journeyman late this year) and it is extremely easy to find jobs as an electrician, as Alberta has a large skilled worker shortage in the trades. My brothers, sister, and parents live in my city, and although we all have separate lives and jobs, we all support each other from time to time and visit every week, so my wife will have their support as well. Also we both have no debts aside from my 20 year mortgage, so therefore, it is extremely unlikely my wife will need to go on social assistance.

We both plan on starting a family very soon after her arrival. She will live with me in my house in which I have a mortgage on, and I will support her financially and emotionally always while she gets used to living and working in Canada. Should her application for permanent residence be denied, we both plan to appeal aggressively until we have no options left, if she still is denied, we both will decide to live in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, using my current assets to purchase a small home there. She will work as a freelance graphic designer, while I can find a job teaching English because I do not speak Vietnamese well, so my job prospects in Vietnam are very limited.

When you read some of our Yahoo! chat logs, you can see in some of our conversations, my wife mentioned many times, how it does not matter to her, whether she live in Canada or Vietnam. Even though there is a perception Vietnam is a less affluent country, my wife at least has the comforts of home and her family nearby in Vietnam, whereas in Canada, she would have to start her life all over, leave her parents, siblings, and relatives, and live in a strange land that she has never been. She only wants to come to Canada so she can be with me, because she only follows wherever I, her husband, will go. She has lived in the US for a year already, and had voluntarily left that country. She has already travelled to Singapore twice. We both discussed at length, our plans for living in Vietnam should her application fail. Therefore, it is clear that our marriage was not done for gaining status to enter Canada.

 

Coldstream63

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Thanks mikemyke, this is a wonderful framework for my own version. I'm thinking I'll do the same, and if they think it's too much, then they can disregard what they will. It's preferable to them not having enough info or leaving questions unanswered.

I'll be helping my wife with her narrative so they are equal in terms of scope of detail, and will do so that hers and mine are not clones of each other. I want the words to be from my wife, but fleshed out in the same obsessive-compulsive detail as I would do :)