Member parliament help!!!!!

[davidbrasil]

Initially I paid 3k as a local course, now they changed it to international and they are asking for another 20k

 

[YVR123]

I have already shown them the extension of the work permit/student visa (daughter)and the application for the PR and they have not changed their minds, so the member of parliament helped me! First he called the university and nothing was resolved, then he sent an email to the IRCC who replied that it was enough to give the extension and it was not! Then he sent an email explaining the situation and asking for urgency in my case.

"the extension of the work permit/student visa (daughter)and the application for the PR" don't give you the right to ask for domestic fee.
Dependents of foreign workers and foreign student needs to pay international fee.
Until you landed as PR (eCOPR or COPR), you are not a PR. So what is wrong to pay international fee?
How long have your PR application been processing? Is that over the normal timeline?

 

[davidbrasil]

Ok

 

[armoured]

The university doesn’t have to change their policies for you. To them, she is not PR so not eligible for domestic tuition, and there is nothing wrong with that policy. It is the university’s policy.

Actually it's not even the university's policy, it's the province that sets the standards for which rate applies depending on circumstances. It's published on the webpages of the ministry of colleges (& something something something).

The university only has flexibility, as far as I'm aware, in interpreting what documents are reasonable proof/documentation of status. And if they're wrong, i assume they take the budget hit in reduced transfers from the province.

 

[davidbrasil]

She qualified for a program for international students who are dependents of parents who have a closed work permit. Initially, we paid ok, as the work permit expired, they are not accepting the IRCC extension. This is the whole problem and now they want another 20k, ok, let's see what will happen.

 

[YVR123]

She qualified for a program for international students who are dependents of parents who have a closed work permit. Initially, we paid ok, as the work permit expired, they are not accepting the IRCC extension. This is the whole problem and now they want another 20k, ok, let's see what will happen.

And you didn't mention about this special program until now. Again, it's up to the institution to accept what document to proof status.

 

[scylla]

She qualified for a program for international students who are dependents of parents who have a closed work permit. Initially, we paid ok, as the work permit expired, they are not accepting the IRCC extension. This is the whole problem and now they want another 20k, ok, let's see what will happen.

Realistically your options are to either pay the international student fees or to defer her studies until she has PR.

 

[armoured]

She qualified for a program for international students who are dependents of parents who have a closed work permit. Initially, we paid ok, as the work permit expired, they are not accepting the IRCC extension. This is the whole problem and now they want another 20k, ok, let's see what will happen.

Since it's a special program of some sort, doubt anyone here can tell you what Queen's requires. Queen's can.

 

[Copingwithlife]

I have already shown them the extension of the work permit/student visa (daughter)and the application for the PR and they have not changed their minds, so the member of parliament helped me! First he called the university and nothing was resolved, then he sent an email to the IRCC who replied that it was enough to give the extension and it was not! Then he sent an email explaining the situation and asking for urgency in my case.

Bet there was eye rolling at the university when the MP called

 

[armoured]

Bet there was eye rolling at the university when the MP called

C'mon folks, we can be generous here. It's actually not a clear situation, it's just not something that (as it turns out) is that clear nor that easily resolved. And clearly there's also a language issue.

I've had experience dealing with MP's offices and they've mostly been polite and try to be helpful, and most (the smart and/or nice ones) would likely admit they're mostly* acting as a sort of 'translation layer' between administrative/legal/govt/bureacratic language and systems and regular Canadians who often only deal with these systems once or twice a lifetime. They try to be careful about assigning blame - that is, they know that sometimes the expectations of constituents are unrealistic, and that often there are crossed signals / communication issues that are the root of the problem.

Back to the case above: I don't know what's going on. If the 'special program' accepts children of work permit holders at domestic rates, it makes sense (on surface level anyway) that an extension would be sufficient.

Failing that, the daughter will be eligible for domestic rates when the family receives PR, and that may be soon - and I understand his frustration (it's probably a different of $10-20k), he probably did think the process would be completed more quickly. (For all we know it could come tomorrow - but it doesn't work on a schedule related to the school's calendar)

And the university has obviously been flexible but (and I've encountered this) - the calendar for when they do 'final call' for documentation is now ~8 weeks into the semester.

So there's a lot of grey area here, and some communications issues, too.

Let's not give him a hard time.

*Mostly in the constituent services area, that is. Different tasks in other parts of MP business.

 

[YVR123]

C'mon folks, we can be generous here. It's actually not a clear situation, it's just not something that (as it turns out) is that clear nor that easily resolved. And clearly there's also a language issue.

I've had experience dealing with MP's offices and they've mostly been polite and try to be helpful, and most (the smart and/or nice ones) would likely admit they're mostly* acting as a sort of 'translation layer' between administrative/legal/govt/bureacratic language and systems and regular Canadians who often only deal with these systems once or twice a lifetime. They try to be careful about assigning blame - that is, they know that sometimes the expectations of constituents are unrealistic, and that often there are crossed signals / communication issues that are the root of the problem.

Back to the case above: I don't know what's going on. If the 'special program' accepts children of work permit holders at domestic rates, it makes sense (on surface level anyway) that an extension would be sufficient.

Failing that, the daughter will be eligible for domestic rates when the family receives PR, and that may be soon - and I understand his frustration (it's probably a different of $10-20k), he probably did think the process would be completed more quickly. (For all we know it could come tomorrow - but it doesn't work on a schedule related to the school's calendar)

And the university has obviously been flexible but (and I've encountered this) - the calendar for when they do 'final call' for documentation is now ~8 weeks into the semester.

So there's a lot of grey area here, and some communications issues, too.

Let's not give him a hard time.

*Mostly in the constituent services area, that is. Different tasks in other parts of MP business.

I don't mean to be hard on OP.
But if he gave us just a little more details that's unique on his case/question, it would have helped to answer his question a lot better.

I was just a bit frustrated on trying to answer his question and not knowing that it's not a normal situation.
He likely will need to try to talk to Queen's special program admin to see if they will allow the work permit extension instead of the actual work permit.

 

[armoured]

I don't mean to be hard on OP.
But if he gave us just a little more details that's unique on his case/question, it would have helped to answer his question a lot better.

I was just a bit frustrated on trying to answer his question and not knowing that it's not a normal situation.

That drives me batty. No worries, no serious criticism, I just thought this was mostly a communication/language issue.

 

[Copingwithlife]

The MP should not be calling a university in regards to this . That’s not there mandate , and totally out of line .
If it’s a schools policy to charge international fees to a foreigner that’s there policy .
This MP needs to stay in there lane

https://ciec-ccie.parl.gc.ca/en/rules-reglements/Pages/INServConst-AIServElect.aspx

 

[canuck78]

Interesting to see what happens but the ability to be able to secure domestic tuition rates for a child shouldn’t make an immigration case a priority for IRCC.

 

[davidbrasil]

No, we do not ask for priority nor do we want to be special or better than anyone else! We just need the work permit to resolve the problem, which has already passed the stipulated deadline of + 230 days, and the IRCC itself said that we should use the paper they gave us, but the university does not want to accept it. That's all, but the MP is helping us. Good luck to all.