+1(514) 937-9445 or Toll-free (Canada & US) +1 (888) 947-9445

Marriage Fraud is not allowed under Canada's immigration law! Or is it?

Aug 17, 2008
25
1
No one can force someone staying with another person; there is no law anywhere in the world that would force people being with one another. Here is the point: The laws are different.

Regarding Marriage:
In Canada, you gain more if you leave, especially if the other person is rich. People get married, one with $1M and the other with $1. After separation, the person leaving gets $0.5M if not more. Who cares about the LOVE? Love always come, I am better off running away with $0.5M and find love with another person than staying with my current one. Right?

Regarding Sponsorship:
If everyone agrees that the marriage can last less than a month, specially with Laws of Canada, why the sponsorship last for three years (even if the person cheats)?
If marriage fraud is not allowed under Canada's Immigration Law, why the law is not enforced?

Regarding the post/prenups:
Canadian Law says, the court decides whether the agreement is fair. In most of the cases, the court says it isn't!!!
 

Leon

VIP Member
Jun 13, 2008
21,950
1,322
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
If you love the person who has $1 million, you gain nothing from running away from them with $.5 million and looking for love elsewhere. You might as well stay married and have the $1 million together.

Sponsorship has to do with people taking responsibility for who they are bringing into the country. Like immigration says, sponsorship should be taken seriously. If it would be that easy for the sponsor to get out of the sponsorship, there would really be no point of requiring it, would there?
 

Anatolia

Star Member
Aug 1, 2008
108
0
I am in awe of the stories I hear ( and I have been reading LOTS today about sham marriages and horror stories), and most of them come from India and South Asia in general. What is this about going to a country to get marry (to anyone "suitable" whatever that is!) and WITHIN a month, marrying a stranger only because people around them say they are trustworthy!.

You know someone for a month, then stay with them a few more weeks, some of the couples' stories even told about no sex during these weeks, then the Canadian comes back to Canada to do the papers.
People, for the love of God! What else do you expect?!!!!
No long relationship, no amazing lovemaking, no long talks, no conflicts, no resolutions, no explosive chemistry, no hard work, no fights, no proof of love (like taking care of each others children, or hours of massage, or housework, or listening to your neurosis...etc) I mean Really!

How do I know my husband really loves me? Cause he reads to my 6 year old for hours at a time, cause he washes my clothes, cause he LISTENS to my bitching and moaning, intently, cause he adores spending time with me quietly, because any little money he has he shares with me... and I could go ON and ON.
He can still leave me.. and that is okay, but at least I know he loved me.

What is my point?? My point is....a marriage, a lasting solid one doesnt come with marrying someone after 3 weeks of knowing them . It just DOESNT. Marriage is hard work, and the only thing that keeps people together is commitment that comes from LOVE and respect.

I think nowadays, younger people are gonna have to stop Listening to the parents and allowing them to CHOOSE their spouses for them, or stop going to countries and choosing their wives and husbands in a week.
 
Aug 17, 2008
25
1
Anatolia,

I totally agree with you;

Marriage is hard work, and the only thing that keeps people together is commitment that comes from LOVE and respect.

When less than a month, your husband or wife leaves you, has he/she shown his/her commitment? Have they shown their true love? Have they shown their respect and genuine relationship? Have they shown that "to have and behold from this day on, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish" ? NO. It shows that the marriage has not been genuine specially when they marry you to get a free ticket to Canada.

I have no problem sponsoring my wife/husband, but if he/she is truly my wife/husband. When the marriage has not been genuine, why legal actions against marriage fraud is not enforced?
 

Lois Lane

Hero Member
May 14, 2008
414
13
(close to Toronto) Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat, Morocco
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10 2007
Regretably there are marriages that are short lived even when there is no sponsorship involved.

Are you able to prove that your wife just wanted to come to Canada? Or is this just what you think she wanted because she is no longer with you? You proofed she loved you respected you was commited to you for better or for worse to love and to cherrish.

There are always two sides to the story and the truth lies somewhere inbetween!
 

uchecathy2007

Member
Aug 12, 2008
14
0
It's a pity but these things happen.If your wife or even your husband wants to leave you it might not just be after you have sponsored them to canada.If the marriage is not meant to be, there's nothing you can do about it but only pray.We do not wish for anyone to be scammed but at the same time,we need to be careful and take responsibility as the decision to marry anyone is ours and not the Canadian government's.
Just pick yourself up,take heart and move on with life as your being angry and worked up will only cause you more harm than good.
Move on with life and you will soon find another woman that truely loves you for who you are. Enjoy life while you can!!!!!!!!
 

frolic

Hero Member
Jul 21, 2008
218
5
Regarding Marriage:
In Canada, you gain more if you leave, especially if the other person is rich. People get married, one with $1M and the other with $1. After separation, the person leaving gets $0.5M if not more. Who cares about the LOVE? Love always come, I am better off running away with $0.5M and find love with another person than staying with my current one. Right?
What does this have to do with your supposed fraud? This is just the facts of life and marriage in the modern age. If you have that attitude now I feel sorry for your next wife.

Regarding Sponsorship:
If everyone agrees that the marriage can last less than a month, specially with Laws of Canada, why the sponsorship last for three years (even if the person cheats)?
If marriage fraud is not allowed under Canada's Immigration Law, why the law is not enforced?
The Canadian government does not want the responsibility of taking care of YOUR mistake. This is why on their site they say "Given the legal obligations, sponsorship should not be taken lightly, and everyone is responsible for ensuring that their marriage is genuine." And when you filled in your application you gave PROOF that your marriage was genuine. Maybe you should be charged for fraud as well?

Regarding the post/prenups:
Canadian Law says, the court decides whether the agreement is fair. In most of the cases, the court says it isn't!!!
You just pulled this comment out of thin air. Care to show a statistic for that?

Really it just looks like you are taking any idea that might prove your case. Unsuccessfully I would say as well.
 
Aug 17, 2008
25
1
frolic said:
What does this have to do with your supposed fraud? This is just the facts of life and marriage in the modern age. If you have that attitude now I feel sorry for your next wife.
Of course these are facts of life; no wonder when you see higher divorce rate, more single parents, and more dogs than children in developed countries than the devolving countries. Are you worried about my future wife? Don't worry, I would never ever marry in Canada, in fact I will leave Canada as the Canadian laws are only good for the dog feeders.

frolic said:
The Canadian government does not want the responsibility of taking care of YOUR mistake. This is why on their site they say "Given the legal obligations, sponsorship should not be taken lightly, and everyone is responsible for ensuring that their marriage is genuine." And when you filled in your application you gave PROOF that your marriage was genuine.
Of course the Canadian government doesn't want to take responsibility or take actions; otherwise, I wouldn't be here making other sponsors aware of their future victimization by the Canadian government. The Canadian law says that the marriage of convenience is illegal, but the Canadian government does not take any action. If I hadn't shown proof that my marriage was genuine, my fraudulent wife wouldn't be here. I have been deceived by my fraudulent wife. My fraudulent wife lied in showing love, in showing care, in showing her personality. She was a different person when she arrived in Canada. As in Abdullah's case, she didn't even notified Abdullah of her arrival. Hadn't she shown proof to the government that they were married? Hadn't she shown to the government that she loved her husband. Yes, she did, but she lied!!! Can you prove that she loved Abdulla and her marriage was genuine? If you can, you are one of the law makers in Canada, or you are receiving money from another person you are sponsoring from abroad and waiting for your money to arrive.

frolic said:
Maybe you should be charged for fraud as well?
Yes, and maybe I should be charged with fraud. But, who cares in Canada? Can you ask the government? NO. Are you willing to ask the government? NO. Canadians are very laid back people and always get victimized by the rules the criminals make and the laws they pass.
 

frolic

Hero Member
Jul 21, 2008
218
5
The Canadian government already tried to protect you from your own stupidity by making it difficult to even bring your wife here. You managed to fool yourself, fool them, and get your wife here. This is your issue now. They warned you, and warned you again, and asked for proof and you still managed to bring her here. If you can't manage to figure out true love over lust and a faker then maybe next time you should not marry so hastily and bring someone from another country to Canada when you have to KNOW their motives might be suspect.

Be a man and learn from this experience and accept responsibility for it.

So far all you are is a whiny kid who has his toy taken away and wants daddy Canada to fix it for you and get petty revenge out of the action too.

And then you go and begin to insult the country too.

Grow up!
 
Aug 17, 2008
25
1
You still hasn't answered my question; is marriage fraud allowed under immigration law? is it being enforced? If you believe that you are a grown up, would you please answer this question.
 

frolic

Hero Member
Jul 21, 2008
218
5
I answered your question long ago.

"I would much rather my tax money go towards chasing real criminals and illegals and deporting them than concentrate on family matters."

With limited resources why would they even bother to waste their time investigating you and your wife when you already did them the favour of proving your relationship was real and genuine thus making it harder for them to prove it was fraud in the first place? It is almost a no win situation.
 
Aug 17, 2008
25
1
That's why I am one of the thoutsands being vicimized by the lies the Canadian governement make such as "Marriages of convenience are not allowed under Canada's immigration law."
 

Anatolia

Star Member
Aug 1, 2008
108
0
Dear Frolic:

Give it a rest, honey.
This man does not understand logic nor reason. He thinks the government is an omnipresent force that can see deep into the heart of man and woman and thus read our minds.
 

PMM

VIP Member
Jun 30, 2005
25,494
1,950
Hi

Anatolia said:
Dear Frolic:

Give it a rest, honey.
This man does not understand logic nor reason. He thinks the government is an omnipresent force that can see deep into the heart of man and woman and thus read our minds.
Probably the next thing is that he is caught speeding, but it is the governments fault for allowing cars to go faster than the speed limit.

PMM