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Marriage Fraud is not allowed under Canada's immigration law! Or is it?

KayCee2

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Really, give it a rest...!

Trust me, lots of folks empathize with you 'cos of this fraud, but we can't deny that you have some culpability in this matter. Like you say, marriage fraud is not allowed under Canada's immigration law, but IT IS when folks like you do a marvelous job of proving your marriage IS NOT a fraud. You believed it when you filed her paperwork and convinced the Canadian Immigration accordingly. Now, you say they are at fault!!!??? Not so!

Look, several marriages end everyday due to various reasons including immigration fraud. One can't blame everything on the Govt 'cos they don't want to help you rectify your issue.

Take heart, wish your ex well, arise and conquer your world in front of you. Life is tooooo short to dwell on the past. Your best revenge is to be so successful that she'd wish she hadn't left you...

Good luck!!!
 
Aug 17, 2008
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Dear KC,

I would never say that Government of Canada is at fault because she has deceived us. I believe that the Canadian government is at fault for some other reasons:

If she had no intention in marrying me, she would not have married me
- if she knew that she would be sent back home after leaving me in a month as the marriage of convenience is illegal in Canada.
- if she knew that there would be no support from the Canadian government such as social assistance after leaving me in a month.
- if she knew that she would have been responsible for supporting herself (as written in the sponsorship agreement) after leaving me in a month.
- if she knew that there wouldn't be any asset division after leaving me in a month.
- if she knew that there wouldn't be a free lawyer to back all her prearranged plans and actions after leaving me in a month.
- if she knew that simple excuses such as I don't like my husband after arriving Canada and leaving me would not work to get all the free services payed by the Canadian tax payers after leaving me in a month.

Unfortunately, with the name of freedom, the Canadian government provide all of the services above even to those people committing marriage fraud. This encourages all criminals and terrorists come to Canada with simple solutions such as marriage.
 
Aug 17, 2008
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KC,

If I knew I was going to be defrauded, I wouldn't have fallen into this trap. I wished I could read her mind. I wished I could foresee her plans. But I got deceived. Why should I, a Canadian Citizen and Tax Payer, be victimized when someone else from another country deceived me and the government? Why shouldn't the criminal get victimized? Should the Canadian citizens back their own citizens rather than backing the criminal deceiver? When people tell me get over it, that means either no one can question the government or the government won't listen to me, or they are sympathizing with the criminal deceiver, or they have been one of those who are benefiting from these laws of the government, either by making money out of it or getting paid by the government using these laws.
 

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When people tell me get over it, that means either no one can question the government or the government won't listen to me, or they are sympathizing with the criminal deceiver, or they have been one of those who are benefiting from these laws of the government, either by making money out of it or getting paid by the government using these laws.
You've gone from venting to just spouting garbage. When I tell you to get over it it means NONE of those things. I question the government everyday. I want them to be fair, balanced, and spend my money in a reasonable way. I don't sympathize with your ex at all. I think it is a despicable thing she did. Using you for getting here. And in no way will I benefit from the law being as it is. Honestly if my wife gets here and leaves me I will have an even bigger burden, with a step-son who I am responsible to support for the next 10 years as well as her for 3 years. And as for getting paid for any of this, you're just seeing conspiracies where there are none. You've gone off the deep end and are now paranoid.

As for your list of why the government is at fault for other reasons they are just more of your same bullshit. You KNEW the laws and rules and responsibilities when you sponsored her. You KNEW that divorce is legal in Canada. You KNEW she could leave you and sue for assets. And you KNOWING signed the agreement. Did you even READ it at the time?

I do not want to live in a nanny state where the government is responsible for everything or takes control of everything. And I will speak out to anyone who seems to want this as you do.
 

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Canada Marriage Fraud NPO said:
If she had no intention in marrying me, she would not have married me
- if she knew that she would be sent back home after leaving me in a month as the marriage of convenience is illegal in Canada.
- if she knew that there would be no support from the Canadian government such as social assistance after leaving me in a month.
- if she knew that she would have been responsible for supporting herself (as written in the sponsorship agreement) after leaving me in a month.
- if she knew that there wouldn't be any asset division after leaving me in a month.
- if she knew that there wouldn't be a free lawyer to back all her prearranged plans and actions after leaving me in a month.
- if she knew that simple excuses such as I don't like my husband after arriving Canada and leaving me would not work to get all the free services payed by the Canadian tax payers after leaving me in a month.
If we had a system where a sponsored spouse would be deported if they left the sponsor, that they had no recourse to any assistance, you would be putting them in a very bad situation where they may choose to stay in an abusive relationship to avoid being deported. The fraudsters would still continue. I think I have asked you this before but if the law stated that the sponsored spouse must stay with you for a set number of years before they could leave you and have full rights as a PR, would you have prefered that this fake wife stayed with you for 2-3 years to get that?
 

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just because a spouse chose to leave after a month doesn't mean she wasn't being genuine in the first place
living with someone is totally different than chatting online

you posted somewhere that next year she would be taking half your assets that is misleading and absolutely not true
 

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Lois Lane said:
just because a spouse chose to leave after a month doesn't mean she wasn't being genuine in the first place
living with someone is totally different than chatting online

you posted somewhere that next year she would be taking half your assets that is misleading and absolutely not true
He said that she already had a lawyer to divorce him and take half his assets and maybe she does. If he had wanted to protect himself against that, he could have had a pre-nup.

There are all kinds of people out there. Some of them are scam artists. Not just for immigration, also within Canada. Who hasn't seen some stories on TV about polygamist men who were moving from woman to woman, taking them for all their money and then moving on? So maybe we haven't seen so many women like that in the media, maybe men are more likely to be ashamed to have been victimized that way but I am sure they exist as well.

The worst cases like that, the would be spouse doesn't just take you for half your assets, they clean you out and use up all your credit as well and then leave you with the debts.
 

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if they were together for just one month she will not be entitled to anything!

upon seperation what you are entitled to is half of the increase in value of the assets you had

and even so you would have to live together for a year for that to take affect so no she won't be getting anything

i am still highly suspect of this situation i think he is just creating a hypathetical situation to get people thinking etc
 

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I have not lived in Canada long enough to know anything about Canada divorce law but where I come from, as soon as you marry, all mine is yours and yours is mine unless you have a prenup. If you were to divorce after a month of marriage, you would still be entitled to half of your spouses assets, not just the increase in value. If it's not like that in Canada, then you don't need a prenup.

Could she ask him for alimony though? Where I come from, such a thing does not exist. It is assumed that once the marriage is over, you support your children but you do not support your spouse but here I know some people who are paying it.
 

Lois Lane

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a prenup is used usually when you are worth alot before you marry and the spouse isn't going to be working so some people think it unfair for the spouse that doesn't contribute to the asset pool walking away with even half the increase in value...the thought is that if the spouse had little or nothing coming in then they will enjoy the benefits of having a wealthy spouse only for as long as it lasts

if you live together for years and have a prenup you may still be able to collect alimony, the spouse has to maintain you in the life style of which you have become acustom to.
depending on the age and the skill set of the spouse as well as the assets of the wealthy spouse she maybe forced to work but that takes years and alot of trials

in the case where there are children than support is paid to the children always
 

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ps i have been married twice and the second time i had a prenup as my husband had nothing so he left with nothing after an abusive three year marriage :0)
 

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I'm glad to be free in Canada to be able to leave physical or emotionally abusive husbands and not be forced to live in fear....even if it is just after one month!

Three is my lucky number!