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Steph C said:
My MP made me sign a release of information form that included my address... so there goes pretending you're from another riding, and in contrast to Scos saying it's just a quick email, my MP's assistant actually phoned them directly. My ridings is one of the larger ones, I never got to speak with my MP personally.
Yeah, that was the point she was getting at. The amount of work for the MPs office is trivial so why mine seems to be "rationing" inquiries makes no sense.

I just fired off my email to CEM. Had all the info listed at the top. I referred to their PPR email and the dates each item was completed and finished by requesting the current status of the application. Now for the big test, will they answer?
 

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scos said:
Yeah, that was the point she was getting at. The amount of work for the MPs office is trivial so why mine seems to be "rationing" inquiries makes no sense.

I just fired off my email to CEM. Had all the info listed at the top. I referred to their PPR email and the dates each item was completed and finished by requesting the current status of the application. Now for the big test, will they answer?
Yeah, mine was also trying to 'ration' my inquiries as well. It doesn't help when I see my MP on the local TV avidly defending immigrants who lied on their application forms or are trying to sponsor family members that don't qualify. You have to be super insistent.. why don't you hire Jeep Guy to pose as you and place a phone call :D
 

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Got a confirmation of receipt of email. It comes from the re-manil address as well and says it is automated and not to respond to it. So I think re-manil.immigration@international.gc.ca is definately an outbound-only address.

And their "service standard" is 28 days? Oh joy! AND if they deem your question is addressed on their site or if they are "still within processing times" then it seems your email is deemed unworthy and tossed...

Gotta love these guys...
 

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scos said:
Got a confirmation of receipt of email. It comes from the re-manil address as well and says it is automated and not to respond to it. So I think re-manil.immigration @ international.gc.ca is definately an outbound-only address.

And their "service standard" is 28 days? Oh joy! AND if they deem your question is addressed on their site or if they are "still within processing times" then it seems your email is deemed unworthy and tossed...

Gotta love these guys...
Oh shoot, I wonder if I should re-email the email I sent to the re-mail address? I'm down for some good ol' fashioned bothering.. getting super antsy now.
 

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Steph C said:
My MP made me sign a release of information form that included my address... so there goes pretending you're from another riding, and in contrast to Scos saying it's just a quick email, my MP's assistant actually phoned them directly. My ridings is one of the larger ones, I never got to speak with my MP personally.
All I provided was our file #. That's all they need. What do you need to release? All your asking them is to use their bat-phone to help you get an update on your status. Maybe my approach circumvents the pleasantries. LOL. My wife says that no matter where I go or what I do I always look like I'm there to do business.
 

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Steph C said:
Yeah, mine was also trying to 'ration' my inquiries as well. It doesn't help when I see my MP on the local TV avidly defending immigrants who lied on their application forms or are trying to sponsor family members that don't qualify. You have to be super insistent.. why don't you hire Jeep Guy to pose as you and place a phone call :D
Naw, not time for the big guns just yet. ;D

I think if I hear nothing in 2 weeks I will resend a more urgent version of the email and cc the MP. Yes, the first step of cc escalation! If I get as high as Harper and still nothing THEN I will call on CJG. :p
 

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CanadianJeepGuy said:
All I provided was our file #. That's all they need. What do you need to release? All your asking them is to use their bat-phone to help you get an update on your status. Maybe my approach circumvents the pleasantries. LOL. My wife says that no matter where I go or what I do I always look like I'm there to do business.
They had me fill that out as well. It authorizes them to access your information. I took the a photocopy of my app when I went so instead of filling everything out I just let them photocopy the Use of a Representative form that authorizes me to see the info, then filled out the one where I authorize them.

Reminds me of that old commercial. "I told 2 friends, then they told 2 friends, and so on, and so on...". ::)
 

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Steph C said:
Yeah, mine was also trying to 'ration' my inquiries as well. It doesn't help when I see my MP on the local TV avidly defending immigrants who lied on their application forms or are trying to sponsor family members that don't qualify. You have to be super insistent.. why don't you hire Jeep Guy to pose as you and place a phone call :D

LOL. You actually know what I look like so you tell me if I look like a grumpy old SOB. I think what works for me is that whatever answer they give me I have one question better.
 

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CanadianJeepGuy said:
LOL. You actually know what I look like so you tell me if I look like a grumpy old SOB. I think what works for me is that whatever answer they give me I have one question better.
Yeah, sorry Jeep Guy.. and now I know you have tooner's angst, much worse then a mailman, you know what they used to say, everything in life is just preparation for CIC.. forward ever.
 

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From:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/04/17/jason-kenney-huffington-post-canada-immigration_n_1432940.html

Q: We received many reports that the wait time to process spousal immigration applications has increased in recent months, particularly for applicants currently residing in Syria and other Middle Eastern countires. What is driving this backlog and is the government doing anything to address it?

A: We had to shut down our embassy in Syria. There's a war going on there, a civil war. We had to close our embassy and our immigration office, which was our main hub for the Middle Eastern region and we've had to move most of those employees up to Ankara (Turkey), some to Beirut (Lebanon). So we'll try to get on top of that, but because of the closure of our office, that's one of those unforeseen circumstances you can't really plan for.

Typically, on a global basis we process spousal sponsorship applications in under 12 months. In some places it becomes more difficult, where there are higher rates of fraud. I'll give you an example, we have very long processing times in Pakistan, in part because the Pakistani government wouldn't give visas to our officers to go in and make decisions and, in part, because a lot of people there do Shariah marriages which are not registered in the civil courts and we can't verify them.

And we have a huge problem with fraudulent immigration marriages around the world. In fact, a couple of years ago we identified that 50 per cent of the spousal sponsorship applications coming out of China to our Hong Kong office were fake. Apparently being organized by Triads (Chinese Mafia) who were establishing relationships with biker gangs in Canada. So we had this weird situation where all these Canadian biker gang members were sponsoring these Chinese girls who they had never met to come to Canada. Apparently, the Chinese girls were promising up to $60,000 to the Triads to facilitate the bogus marriage. We caught on to this when our officers started to see ... to support their application they submitted photos of their honeymoon, but all of the honeymoon photos were taken in the same apartment, the same furniture. Bad Triads, they're not very sophisticated. Ans so we started calling them for interviews and their stories would just fall apart right away.

The better example is in Pubjab, we hired a network of fraud detection experts, a lot of former cops who are good at documentary fraud, and we started to see pictures that were being submitted in immigration marriage applications where the face of the bride and groom were being crudely Photoshopped on top of a real wedding picture. So then we changed the rules, that's not working, we want a full shot of the wedding reception so we can see context, see it's real. And then the Punjabi wedding palaces started offering special discount fake wedding reception packages. Welcome to everyone in the village, you're going to get a free meal, wear your wedding finery and the couple that was arranging the fake marriage would show up and they'd submit the pictures. It goes on and on. It's a constant cat and mouse game.

My apologies to the folks from Syria that are waiting, we'll try to get to those applications.



So the last quarter neither Ankara or Beirut improved their processing times... Furthermore, 40 of 46 VO's did not reduce their processing times. In fact, the HK VO went from 13 months to 10 months and this is one of the examples he gives as a problem VO with lots of fake apps. Cripes...
 

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Steph C said:
Yeah, sorry Jeep Guy.. and now I know you have tooner's angst, much worse then a mailman, you know what they used to say, everything in life is just preparation for CIC.. forward ever.
LOL...tuner's angst. That's the one thing I do that makes me very calm. Except for the upper end of spinets. Fooking hate spinets.
 

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LOL...tuner's angst. That's the one thing I do that makes me very calm. Except for the upper end of spinets. Fooking hate spinets.
Yeah me too.. only time I'm calm EVER is tooning or playing. Don't mind spinets. 'Heinies' old or 'new' really get me down..
 

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Steph C said:
Oh shoot, I wonder if I should re-email the email I sent to the re-mail address? I'm down for some good ol' fashioned bothering.. getting super antsy now.
just let the CEM f!!!!k with your life......my wife now has no org ID and is worried ..... the CEM don,t care.....and she is a DR... DM I bet its after her meds expire.... july 4/12... have to start all over again.....
 

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gortandmugs said:
just let the CEM f!!!!k with your life......my wife now has no org ID and is worried ..... the CEM don,t care.....and she is a DR... DM I bet its after her meds expire.... july 4/12... have to start all over again.....
Nah, I bet she will get a phone call to present her booking certificate :D :D tell her to keep her phone on!
 

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GoonerClank said:
From:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/04/17/jason-kenney-huffington-post-canada-immigration_n_1432940.html

Q: We received many reports that the wait time to process spousal immigration applications has increased in recent months, particularly for applicants currently residing in Syria and other Middle Eastern countires. What is driving this backlog and is the government doing anything to address it?

A: We had to shut down our embassy in Syria. There's a war going on there, a civil war. We had to close our embassy and our immigration office, which was our main hub for the Middle Eastern region and we've had to move most of those employees up to Ankara (Turkey), some to Beirut (Lebanon). So we'll try to get on top of that, but because of the closure of our office, that's one of those unforeseen circumstances you can't really plan for.

Typically, on a global basis we process spousal sponsorship applications in under 12 months. In some places it becomes more difficult, where there are higher rates of fraud. I'll give you an example, we have very long processing times in Pakistan, in part because the Pakistani government wouldn't give visas to our officers to go in and make decisions and, in part, because a lot of people there do Shariah marriages which are not registered in the civil courts and we can't verify them.

And we have a huge problem with fraudulent immigration marriages around the world. In fact, a couple of years ago we identified that 50 per cent of the spousal sponsorship applications coming out of China to our Hong Kong office were fake. Apparently being organized by Triads (Chinese Mafia) who were establishing relationships with biker gangs in Canada. So we had this weird situation where all these Canadian biker gang members were sponsoring these Chinese girls who they had never met to come to Canada. Apparently, the Chinese girls were promising up to $60,000 to the Triads to facilitate the bogus marriage. We caught on to this when our officers started to see ... to support their application they submitted photos of their honeymoon, but all of the honeymoon photos were taken in the same apartment, the same furniture. Bad Triads, they're not very sophisticated. Ans so we started calling them for interviews and their stories would just fall apart right away.

The better example is in Pubjab, we hired a network of fraud detection experts, a lot of former cops who are good at documentary fraud, and we started to see pictures that were being submitted in immigration marriage applications where the face of the bride and groom were being crudely Photoshopped on top of a real wedding picture. So then we changed the rules, that's not working, we want a full shot of the wedding reception so we can see context, see it's real. And then the Punjabi wedding palaces started offering special discount fake wedding reception packages. Welcome to everyone in the village, you're going to get a free meal, wear your wedding finery and the couple that was arranging the fake marriage would show up and they'd submit the pictures. It goes on and on. It's a constant cat and mouse game.

My apologies to the folks from Syria that are waiting, we'll try to get to those applications.



So the last quarter neither Ankara or Beirut improved their processing times... Furthermore, 40 of 46 VO's did not reduce their processing times. In fact, the HK VO went from 13 months to 10 months and this is one of the examples he gives as a problem VO with lots of fake apps. Cripes...
Yeah, thats it. Blame it on fraud. That is why terrible fraudulent China has a VO with only an 8 month (now 9 month, Hong Kong is 10) processing time. If what he was saying was correct shouldn't Beijing be like 29 months too (like Islamabad)? I heard of a lot of fraud from Morocco yet they wait 8 months. And who here hasn't heard of the latest poster child of marriage fraud Cuba which has a 10 month wait. With all the articles in the papers about evil Cuban fraudsters you would surely think that number should be higher.

So bzzzzzt, wrong answer Mr. Kenney, you don't win the Dream Vacation!