Let's share timeline, PGWP March applicant

[adlmer]

oko_zenita, You are absolutely right. A valid study permit and eligible for PGWP is required to work (because whoever is eligible for PGWP - was also eligible to work off-campus without work permit).

 

[Alex Z]

I twitted to my MP and got an email to contact the team.
I sent an email, very polite but I stated all the frustrations I am experiencing.
Will see how it will go.

 

[NDUFB11]

I sent an email to my MP too but I didn't get any email back from him. Most probably he's more frustrated then because his political party didn't win the last election

 

[Netz]

Alex Z,
Can u help me what did you tweet your MP that you got an instant reply... I wana tweet too but without being rude..

 

[Alex Z]

Alex Z,
Can u help me what did you tweet your MP that you got an instant reply... I wana tweet too but without being rude..

I tweeted this "I couldn't find any information to contact with you. I have a big delay with my work permit and I know you possibly can help".
That's basically the only info that can fit in 140 letters ;D

 

[Netz]

I tweeted this "I couldn't find any information to contact with you. I have a big delay with my work permit and I know you possibly can help".
That's basically the only info that can fit in 140 letters ;D

Thank you Alex Z... #pgwp outrage

 

[Alex Z]

Thank you Alex Z... #pgwp outrage

no worries ) we are all frustrating here!

 

[Netz]

I tweeted to cic too... I suggest every1 should..they shud have alot more students tweeting them everytime..

 

[Slimteddy]

Hello Everyone,

So I would like to share my timeline too.
Applied: May 15
Paid $100: N/A
Blank update: Aug 4
Current status: still waiting as of Oct 27.

Obviously we're in the same boat guys, especially those who submitted on May 15. I called Call centre a couple times and the agents said she will send a message for me. At first I thought they gonna fix the problem soon, but after reading all the posts here, guess they aren't that helpful after all. My question is, I haven't paid that extra 100 yet, does it make a difference if I pay it though CSE now? Or I can just wait till CIC inform me to pay? please let me know if you have any experience, thanks.

 

[star1002007]

Hello Everyone,

So I would like to share my timeline too.
Applied: May 15
Paid $100: N/A
Blank update: Aug 4
Current status: still waiting as of Oct 27.

Obviously we're in the same boat guys, especially those who submitted on May 15. I called Call centre a couple times and the agents said she will send a message for me. At first I thought they gonna fix the problem soon, but after reading all the posts here, guess they aren't that helpful after all. My question is, I haven't paid that extra 100 yet, does it make a difference if I pay it though CSE now? Or I can just wait till CIC inform me to pay? please let me know if you have any experience, thanks.

So many May 15th applicants never get update and 100 dollars request! I guess the officer totally forget us and we need to do something. I don't know how CIC officers process the applications.

 

[mets15]

I tweeted to cic too... I suggest every1 should..they shud have alot more students tweeting them everytime..

I have tweeted them too Netz but I doubt they reply or say anything because it's a complaint rather than a query. It doesn't even show up on their feed :/. I have emailed the new CIC minister- Mark Holland...

 

[Sarir11]

I received an email from my MP's office yesterdays stating that they have contacted CIC and asked for my application. They say my application does not lack anything and all is right about it and I am going to hear from them accordingly. The only problem is a backlog and long queues which have led to such processing times. It seems my file is awaiting a final review.

At least one may be assured that there is not problem regarding docs or payment etc. I can wait few more weeks!

 

[needPermit]

So many May 15th applicants never get update and 100 dollars request! I guess the officer totally forget us and we need to do something. I don't know how CIC officers process the applications.

When I called CIC call center to ask about my May 15 application, they said that the officer did open the application, saw that something was missing ($100 fees) and then just put my application on the side and moved on to the next one.

I got so furious listening to this but I didn't fire at the agent, not his fault. What makes me angry is that CIC's website itself says that if anything else is required by CIC, they shall contact you. Hence if the officer found that the $100 fees receipt was missing, then why in the world did he not notify me [indirectly]. Why did he just put it to side and went for the next one. Then CIC also says that you pay your $100 fees when they ask you to pay. BUT THEY ARE NOT ASKING!!!!!!

Then I asked the agent that when I paid the $100 fees receipt thru CSE on Aug 18, why didn't the officer go back to my application even when I received the receipt confirmation from CIC via email. He said because the department which gets your fees receipt thru CSE is a completely different department which has no interaction with the CIC officers. Hence even though you received confirmation email, the officer still don't know if you have paid the extra fees.

That's when I got my MP involved. Guys, take action to get your permit. CIC would do nothing if they don't get a push on your application. They will just keep moving on to next applications.

 

[loocyb1008]

loocyb1008,
I received following clarification from CIC regarding work off campus full time after graduation. The words clearly means if you were "eligible" to take on off campus work without permit (not allowed or authorized) and had a valid study permit.

While awaiting a decision to be made, they can continue to work and hold a full-time position if, at the time they submit their PGWP application:

They held a valid study permit and a valid off-campus work permit, or
They held a valid study permit and were eligible to work off-campus without a work permit.

So according to my understanding IF you were in designated learning institute, studied full time in a program longer than 6 months, u can work off campus unless what you described is provided in written by CIC and not just verbal. By the way, I would not bet on CIC call agents to be the best judge.

Also, check these links:

www . cic . gc . ca / english / study / study-changes . asp
On June 1, 2014, if you hold a study permit but you have not yet applied for an Off-Campus Work Permit, you are authorized to work off campus without a work permit as long as you meet the eligibility requirements for working off campus. [for designated learning institute students.. see the text in link]

www . cic . gc . ca / english / information / applications / guides / 5553ETOC . asp
A work permit is a written authorization to work in Canada issued by an officer to a person who is not a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident of Canada.

Hi adlmer,

I think (could be wrong) that you still need to have one of the two following statements printed on your study permit to be able to work off campus while you hold the study permit and while you are waiting for a pgwp (and so would need to have your study permit amended if it doesn't state one of these two things).

This is a quote from www . cic . gc . ca / english / study / work-offcampus . asp:
"You must have one of the following conditions or remarks printed on your study permit in order to apply for a SIN for off-campus work:

*May work 20 hrs per week off-campus or full-time during regular breaks if meeting criteria outlined in section 186(v) of IRPR
*May accept employment on or off campus if meeting eligibility criteria as per R186(f), (v) or (w). Must cease working if no longer meeting these criteria

If your study permit does not have one of the above conditions or remarks, you must submit a request for an amendment to your study permit before you can apply for a SIN. There is no fee for this request."

I think it really has more to do with getting a SIN to be able to work off campus. Yes, people who hold a sp issued prior to June 2014 are eligible if they fall under the eligibility criteria but they still have to go through the verification process and get one of the statements printed on their study permit before they can begin working off campus. My question is, and I probably need to call Service Canada about this, is that I already have a SIN that is still valid that was issued prior to these newer rules that allowed me to work on-campus only, so is that SIN now valid for off-campus work?

Another reason why you need to have one of those statements printed on your study permit is because technically your employer is supposed to check and see if authorization is given on your permit (meaning it needs to be printed on the permit). Here is a quote from www . servicecanada . gc . ca / eng / sin / employers / expiry . shtml:

"Before hiring a new employee
You must see the employee's existing immigration document authorizing him or her to work in Canada (e.g. work permit, study permit) and verify that it has not expired."


This is from University of Toronto's website cie . utoronto . ca / Coming / Prepare-for-Arrival / Working-in-Canada . htm:

"If you received your study permit before June 1st and you have never applied for an off campus work permit or a Work Authorization letter from CIC you need to apply for an amendment to your study permit. Upon approval, CIC will send you a new study permit which includes one of the following statements:
May work 20 hrs per week off-campus or full-time during regular breaks if meeting criteria outlined in section186(v) of IRPR
May accept employment on or off campus if meeting eligibility criteria as per R186(f), (v) or (w). Must cease working if no longer meeting these criteria
The amended study permit will help you get a Social Insurance Number and work in Canada. Go to the Social Insurance Number page to find out how you can apply for a SIN."

I also really question whether or not CIC call agents know what they are talking about. It seems that they don't really know their own system with how many different answers they give for the same question. It would be really nice if CIC would spell out this issue more clearly on their website on one page, there is a lot of ambiguity in what they have written.

 

[RBel]

When I called CIC call center to ask about my May 15 application, they said that the officer did open the application, saw that something was missing ($100 fees) and then just put my application on the side and moved on to the next one.

I got so furious listening to this but I didn't fire at the agent, not his fault. What makes me angry is that CIC's website itself says that if anything else is required by CIC, they shall contact you. Hence if the officer found that the $100 fees receipt was missing, then why in the world did he not notify me [indirectly]. Why did he just put it to side and went for the next one. Then CIC also says that you pay your $100 fees when they ask you to pay. BUT THEY ARE NOT ASKING!!!!!!

Then I asked the agent that when I paid the $100 fees receipt thru CSE on Aug 18, why didn't the officer go back to my application even when I received the receipt confirmation from CIC via email. He said because the department which gets your fees receipt thru CSE is a completely different department which has no interaction with the CIC officers. Hence even though you received confirmation email, the officer still don't know if you have paid the extra fees.

That's when I got my MP involved. Guys, take action to get your permit. CIC would do nothing if they don't get a push on your application. They will just keep moving on to next applications.

A CIC agent told you this?? This is outrageous, I'm also a May 15th applicant, and everytime I call them and ask about the extra $100 they say that it should bear no effect on how my application is processed...