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yatrikatdal

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Hi there, I am curious about the express entry draw process for the general and french categories. In comparison to the general draw, I noticed that the French category's score is extremely low. Does that imply that if I study French, do well on the test, and apply for express entry? My file is automatically assigned to the French category. Kindly guide.

My current CRS score is 490+.
 

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Hi there, I am curious about the express entry draw process for the general and french categories. In comparison to the general draw, I noticed that the French category's score is extremely low. Does that imply that if I study French, do well on the test, and apply for express entry? My file is automatically assigned to the French category. Kindly guide.

My current CRS score is 490+.
Essentially yes.
 

Naturgrl

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Apr 5, 2020
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Hi there, I am curious about the express entry draw process for the general and french categories. In comparison to the general draw, I noticed that the French category's score is extremely low. Does that imply that if I study French, do well on the test, and apply for express entry? My file is automatically assigned to the French category. Kindly guide.

My current CRS score is 490+.
Do you know any French? You need B2 (advanced intermediate) to gain points.
 

yatrikatdal

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May 1, 2024
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Essentially yes.
All right, I am not sure what exactly happens because some people talk about "boosting your score with French" and others say "entering French category draws." Sincerely, who knows? With the CRS score of 549 right now, it could even rise in the future. I was therefore uncertain as to whether it would increase my score or place me in a different category where the minimal score requirement is applicable.
 

yatrikatdal

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May 1, 2024
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Do you know any French? You need B2 (advanced intermediate) to gain points.
Hi, I was hoping to begin learning French right away even though I do not currently know any of it. So, the question is: will it simply add extra points to my current score and require me to apply for general category draws only, or will it place me in a completely different category with a very appealing score?
 

Naturgrl

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Apr 5, 2020
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Hi, I was hoping to begin learning French right away even though I do not currently know any of it. So, the question is: will it simply add extra points to my current score and require me to apply for general category draws only, or will it place me in a completely different category with a very appealing score?
You will be in the French draw if your TEF/CELPIP score is high enough. You need to be beyond a beginner level to gain points.
 

yatrikatdal

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May 1, 2024
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You will be in the French draw if your TEF/CELPIP score is high enough. You need to be beyond a beginner level to gain points.
Do you mean TEF test points or CRS score points when you say "gain points"? You are saying that I can only enter the French draw if I achieve a high score, which would be? I can not enter the French draw with just the minimum requirement.
 

eternitysh

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Apr 9, 2024
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Hi, I was hoping to begin learning French right away even though I do not currently know any of it. So, the question is: will it simply add extra points to my current score and require me to apply for general category draws only, or will it place me in a completely different category with a very appealing score?
1. It will add extra points to your current score.
2. You will still be invited in the general draws if the cut off score is lower than your score. You don't need to do anything.
3. If you score Level 7 in all skills (listening, reading, speaking, writing) in TCF/TEF exam and update in your profile, you will be eligible for French Category draws too. It happens automatically. Of course, you still need to have high enough CRS score to get ITA in that particular French draw's required CRS.
4. If you know zero French, it may take 12 ~24 months depends on your commitment and ability to get to Level 7 in all skills. Please take it into consideration.

Hope it helps.
 
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Naturgrl

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Do you mean TEF test points or CRS score points when you say "gain points"? You are saying that I can only enter the French draw if I achieve a high score, which would be? I can not enter the French draw with just the minimum requirement.
Read the EE requirements for second language scores. You need a TEF score that meets the EE requirements. Beginner French will not give you points. You want B2 (advanced intermediate) to get the extra CRS points for French.
 
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yatrikatdal

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May 1, 2024
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1. It will add extra points to your current score.
2. You will still be invited in the general draws if the cut-off score is lower than your score. You don't need to do anything.
3. If you score Level 7 in all skills (listening, reading, speaking, and writing) in TCF/TEF exam and update in your profile, you will be eligible for French Category draws too. It happens automatically. Of course, you still need to have high enough CRS score to get ITA in that particular French draw's required CRS.
4. If you know zero French, it may take 12–24 months, depends on your commitment and ability to get to Level 7 in all skills. Please take it into consideration.

I hope it helps.
Okay, so this is what I understand from it. My score is increased, and the IRCC portal does not allow for category selection; instead, my file is automatically classified into the French or general category based on the information I have provided. It is also necessary for me to get at least a B2 score in order for the IRCC to consider me qualified for a French draw, right?
 

yatrikatdal

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May 1, 2024
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Read the EE requirements for second language scores. You need a TEF score that meets the EE requirements. Beginner French will not give you points. You want B2 (advanced intermediate) to get the extra CRS points for French.
I understand, you are correct, and I am aware that learning French from the ground up will not be easy. On the other hand, let us say that I manage to achieve a decent score in French. I get the extra points added, and my file is automatically selected for the general or French draw category if my score meets the requirements. Am I reading this correctly?
 

santosh.dh

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It's a bit of a gamble since the governments will most likely change in Canada next year. So we can't say for sure if they will give this much importance to Francophones. For me, it was a gamble too to learn French from scratch; it took me two years. But it worked. I hope that if you decide to go ahead with it, it will work for you too!
 
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eternitysh

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Apr 9, 2024
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Okay, so this is what I understand from it. My score is increased, and the IRCC portal does not allow for category selection; instead, my file is automatically classified into the French or general category based on the information I have provided. It is also necessary for me to get at least a B2 score in order for the IRCC to consider me qualified for a French draw, right?
Yes
 

CanGoldDigger

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French has always been beneficial for EE so learn it, it's not a gamble at all. You will get extra points anyway. Besides, it would be very helpful to you in Canada for sure.
 
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yatrikatdal

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May 1, 2024
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It's a bit of a gamble since the governments will most likely change in Canada next year. So we can't say for sure if they will give this much importance to Francophones. For me, it was a gamble too to learn French from scratch; it took me two years. But it worked. I hope that if you decide to go ahead with it, it will work for you too!
Hello there, why do you think it is a gamble ? Do you believe the government will close the french category in future ? Or did you think you might not be able yo learn the french language?