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info-gc is saying IT is not Enviornment freindly .
Now that's a Biggest joke i have ever heard.

he does not know what he is talking
 
asaif said:
Noted and totally agree.
What I wanted to say was that immigration is not only about getting a good job, but it is about establishing a new life. If the only goal of immigration is to get a high paying job, one can achieve that in another place with less time and effort.

To some people ,who lack deep reflections, the world is two dimensional and everything is simplified and reduced to absurdity.
Real life is not like that.
I am glad that you have better understanding of how it is. Some people simply won't know what it is.
 
:)

I am stopping no one. That was just a word of caution. Ten years ago I was enthusiastic too.

But I still remember that when I first saw the immigration application forms (I was 23 at the time) what I found strange was the $975 right of landing fee and the $500 processing fee. I thought, a country in need of my skills shouldn't be asking for my money too.

It is a big gamble. You have to be here to see what I mean.
Just ask yourself the question "Why is Canada going to accept me, what do I bring with me? Then think about all those unemployed professionals that are no worse than any of you, and you may start getting some good ideas.



P.S. I said "it is not environmentally unfriendly" :)
 
info-gc said:
:)

I am stopping no one. That was just a word of caution. Ten years ago I was enthusiastic too.

But I still remember that when I first saw the immigration application forms (I was 23 at the time) what I found strange was the $975 right of landing fee and the $500 processing fee. I thought, a country in need of my skills shouldn't be asking for my money too.

It is a big gamble. You have to be here to see what I mean.
Just ask yourself the question "Why is Canada going to accept me, what do I bring with me? Then think about all those unemployed professionals that are no worse than any of you, and you may start getting some good ideas.

P.S. I said "it is not environmentally unfriendly" :)
One more question did you ever visit Canada in your life ? I guess you know nothing about this country
 
Baloo said:
The official number is not that bad.

Canadian Unemployment Rate At 7.9%

November 5 2010 - Statistics Canada reported that the unemployment rate edged back down 0.1% to 7.9% in October as gains in full-time jobs were matched by part-time losses.
Alberta showed gains over the month while Nova Scotia experienced losses, with little change in other provinces.

Seasonally adjusted, unemployment rates vary from 13.0% (Newfoundland and Labrador) to 5.2% (Manitoba).

Rates for all the provinces were (previous month in brackets):

Newfoundland and Labrador 13.0% (13.5%)
Prince Edward Island 12.9% (13.6%)
Nova Scotia 9.8% (9.0%)
New Brunswick 9.8% (9.8%)
Quebec 8.0% (7.7%)
Ontario 8.6% (8.8%)
Manitoba 5.2% (5.4%)
Saskatchewan 5.7% (5.5%)
Alberta 6.0% (6.2%)
British Columbia 7.4% (7.5%)

Thanks, Baloo. Yeah, "one in five" did sound crazy. That's Great Depression levels.
 
qwerbilzak,

I explained how the official unemployment numbers are derived. Please take the time to read those two lines.

The ACTUAL unemployment figures may well be 30-50%

If you are ready to deal with that, if you think your English and knowledge is better than that of Canadian born people and that you will be noticed in the avalanche of resumes the employers receive each day, then no problem.

The only people who can give you the best information are either guys like me, or people dealing with immigrants on a regular basis. The latter group are silent because their own precarious employment depends on your number.

I will have to go back to sending out my resumes, it is a crazy activity knowing you will get one call in 100-150 applications sent. By for now!
 
info-gc said:
qwerbilzak,

I explained how the official unemployment numbers are derived. Please take the time to read those two lines.

The ACTUAL unemployment figures may well be 30-50%

If you are ready to deal with that, if you think your English and knowledge is better than that of Canadian born people and that you will be noticed in the avalanche of resumes the employers receive each day, then no problem.

The only people who can give you the best information are either guys like me, or people dealing with immigrants on a regular basis. The latter group are silent because their own precarious employment depends on your number.

I will have to go back to sending out my resumes, it is a crazy activity knowing you will get one call in 100-150 applications sent. By for now!

If the situation is so bad, why don't u come back?
For how many years are you searching a job?
 
zagy said:
If the situation is so bad, why don't u come back?
For how many years are you searching a job?

If you have a family, you leave your good job to come to Canada, then end up unemployed and out of money, how do you go back? There is nothing to go back to. Nobody is waiting for you any more.

Replies to your second questions : my second post, page 1
 
zagy said:
If the situation is so bad, why don't u come back?
For how many years are you searching a job?
Good question. You should have got the Canadian citizenship by now. Why don't you look for employment in another place that has better chances and less barriers?
 
asaif said:
Why don't you look for employment in another place that has better chances and less barriers?

Where?
USA? (with their international policies I would rather not associate myself with them)
Most of the small countries are becoming poorer and managed by mafia groups.
It is a global problem and Canada is taking advantage of that.

I cannot change the World. All I can offer is my perspective at things and a few words to you.
 
info-gc said:
If you have a family, you leave your good job to come to Canada, then end up unemployed and out of money, how do you go back? There is nothing to go back to. Nobody is waiting for you any more.

Replies to your second questions : my second post, page 1
Ok. Is there anyone waiting for you in Canada?
At least in your home country you have 2 advantages:
- Your qualifications and experiences are recognized.
- You have a network of friends and family members who can help you to start over again.
 
info-gc said:
If you have a family, you leave your good job to come to Canada, then end up unemployed and out of money, how do you go back? There is nothing to go back to. Nobody is waiting for you any more.

Replies to your second questions : my second post, page 1

After reading your story my friend I just wanna say that you are one of the unlucky fellows.

Because there is nothing wrong with unemployment in Canada. Most of the countries in the world are suffering with this disease.

Keep trying don't loose hope!!
 
info-gc said:
qwerbilzak,

I explained how the official unemployment numbers are derived. Please take the time to read those two lines.

The ACTUAL unemployment figures may well be 30-50%

If you are ready to deal with that, if you think your English and knowledge is better than that of Canadian born people and that you will be noticed in the avalanche of resumes the employers receive each day, then no problem.

The only people who can give you the best information are either guys like me, or people dealing with immigrants on a regular basis. The latter group are silent because their own precarious employment depends on your number.

I will have to go back to sending out my resumes, it is a crazy activity knowing you will get one call in 100-150 applications sent. By for now!

I'm sorry, but claiming there's up to 50% unemployment simply lacks any shred of credibility. While there may be very high unemployment among newly landed immigrants who don't speak English well and don't know anyone, or some useful subset. But 50% general labor force umemployment is cuckoo.
 
I think the concerns here are very true...When you immigrate to another country, your qualification is nothing unless they will recognize it or there will be a recognizing body to do this.. such as Nursing, Doctors etc. I wouldn't really recommend immigrating without being registered first. Ive been there done that. I am just lucky that i am a nurse so having registration would for sure give me an assurance of a good job. My wife is an IT, but we don't expect her to get the job that she wants- it won't happen unless she study there-so that's an option. So, having said this-It will be a difficult life relocating to Canada IF you don't have REGISTRATION. I f you are a manager or supervisor, you will end-up as a factory worker or a chech-out operator-if your fine with this, then you don't have a problem. However, on the brighter side, being in Canada with a very good healthcare system, better education, better and safer environment, stable economy,lesser pollution,lesser corruption,etc...are good things. You need to choose then, a stable life with a good job in an unstable place OR in a place wherein you need to literally start from scratch, hurdle the hardships but giving a better life and future for your children in a safe and stable environment? it's up to you...

If i will give a timeline- it would be 5- 10 yrs before you will be stable in a foreign country..so expect this. If you have qualification that allows you to practice your profession there ( like nurses ) then, 3 yrs is enough. If you are really unlucky, you will need 10 yrs. If you are really UNFORTUNATE 10 yrs wouldn't be enough...what i will suggest is- IF YOU DON'T SEE ANY SUCCESS OR STABILITY IN THE NEXT 3 YRS AFTER YOU HAVE MIGRATED, YOU NEED TO HAVE QUALIFICATION THERE-STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! (they offer student loan without interest)- look at this, 3 yrs of unstability plus 3 yrs of study= 6 yrs..but after this, you will get a good job! (you don't need to wait for 10 yrs) You need to be wise! you hold your own future and success! its up to you mate.....its all about choice.

This is not to discourage anyone,its just a guide.Goodluck to all!

lloyd
 
I think you have to be prepared in order to get good job in your field. Also understanding market demand on particular skills. Just because you know IT does not mean you can get job easily. But for this example -isysy- he specializes in Quality Assurance and he had done thorough perparation and he seems to understand his skills and the market in Canada - and he got the job without much difficulty.
Your success is driven by you and it is your own responsibility! I like it when he said: You do NOT need to work as a cashier in Tim Hortons (coffee shop) or McDonalds just to gain experience. You have experience! Why would you come here to Canada if you don't have it with you, right? and if you don't... then why come!??
Basically one needs to be realistic, know the strength, weakness and to have strategy...learning from other how to succeed is vital as well. No need to reinvent the wheel.


Quote from: isysy on November 12, 2010, 01:07:26 am
and I landed a good job... Above average salary, good benefits, good company and is one of Alberta's Top 50 Employers
my Canadian dream is starting to realize

my wife and I cried when we first read this post. Looking back, this thread made us stronger

More posting from him on how he got the job when he landed!!! very encouraging
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/it-manager-t31217.0.html;msg495588#msg495588