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June 2016 Citizenship Applicants

marcus66502

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Dec 18, 2013
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OOW said:
If I may ask, what documents should take along during the test, besides PR Card, COPR, and Passport?
All the documents submitted must have been in the system already. Test and Interview shouldn't be another round of application processing, which had already been done before the test/interview date.
This is where you're wrong. As far as I could tell, the only real "processing" that had been done was that they already had obtained the clearances from RCMP and CSIS (the officer showed them to me). Other than that, they guy had not really read my file before that interview as far as I could tell. We went through ALL my answers to the entire application forms, page by page, line by line.

Where there was a question that tested a statutory requirement for citizenship (such as filing taxes, or intent to reside, or criminal prohibitions sections) he was particularly thorough in asking me the questions again, probably to make sure the answers matched. I think he put me down as having satisfied all these other requirements because he made the same mark on all of them (the mark of "Pass" I think), except for the physical presence requirement for which he said he was going to wait for the CBSA report. I hope that's all that's left to review.

In my opinion, I think he was also testing to see that I was who I claimed to be and not an impostor for someone else. This is because at the end of the interview he asked me to state my full name again and to confirm my date of birth for him. This in spite of the fact that I produced a half a dozen secure ID documents with my photo on them (you name the ID and chances are I showed it to him: passport, PR Card, Ontario driver's license, Ontario health card). It just irked the hell out of me that even with all that, he had fundamental doubts about my identity.
 

OOW

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Jul 2, 2016
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marcus66502 said:
This is where you're wrong. As far as I could tell, the only real "processing" that had been done was that they already had obtained the clearances from RCMP and CSIS (the officer showed them to me). Other than that, they guy had not really read my file before that interview as far as I could tell. We went through ALL my answers to the entire application forms, page by page, line by line.

Where there was a question that tested a statutory requirement for citizenship (such as filing taxes, or intent to reside, or criminal prohibitions sections) he was particularly thorough in asking me the questions again, probably to make sure the answers matched. I think he put me down as having satisfied all these other requirements because he made the same mark on all of them (the mark of "Pass" I think), except for the physical presence requirement for which he said he was going to wait for the CBSA report. I hope that's all that's left to review.

In my opinion, I think he was also testing to see that I was who I claimed to be and not an impostor for someone else. This is because at the end of the interview he asked me to state my full name again and to confirm my date of birth for him. This in spite of the fact that I produced a half a dozen secure ID documents with my photo on them (you name the ID and chances are I showed it to him: passport, PR Card, Ontario driver's license, Ontario health card). It just irked the hell out of me that even with all that, he had fundamental doubts about my identity.
Thank you for this info. I will be going for the test on Sept 9th and need to prepare for such a person. That means I must print all the documents that I submitted to Nova Scotia. I'm of the opinion that the guy that interviewed you is new in the system, and he's being meticulous and officious.
 

Rigly68

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Apr 16, 2013
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marcus66502 you mentioned a passport that was from 10 years ago. Did you bring this one as it was still valid within the last 6 years or was it already expired in 2010?
 

allawy86

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Jun 3, 2016
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marcus66502 said:
Allawy

I was at the Hamilton CIC office on the same day as you for my citizenship test and interview (August 17). The test went well (20 correct out of 20) but I did not get approved on the spot at the interview. My case was handled by the guy, not the lady. Long story short, he said that first he would have to order a CBSA report of my entries (and exits?) in order to verify that my same-day trips to the US match what I have declared in the Online Residence Calculator. This because I'm applying with 1462 days physical presence, barely over the required minimum of 1460, and he said he wants to make sure I don't fall short. I told him I have only taken 8 same-day driving trips to the Buffalo, New York, with the exact dates declared. No overnight absences, no overseas trips in the past four years. Per the new rules, same-day trips don't count as days of absence: your day began and ended in Canada.

Anyway, he still wanted to verify my entries with a CBSA report, so I have no choice but to wait. He said the CBSA report should take about a week. It's been 8 days now since that interview last week, and my status still shows IN PROCESS. I have no idea how long my case will take. I really hate 'indefinite' waits.

What really bugs me is that I get the feeling if my case had been handled by the female officer, she would have approved me right then and there. Before I was called in by the guy, I was sitting right next to the door of the female officer and I overheard her first two interviews. They were both very short and she was laughing her way through them. I was the second person to be called in by the guy, and in the time it had taken him to interview his first applicant, the lady had already been through two interviews.

I did not get the sense that the lady officer was as meticulous as the guy in checking documents and all. My interview took almost 30 minutes and the guy practically asked me all the questions in the application forms all over again, as if he'd never read my file. Then he took a long hard look at my now-expired passport, which is an old passport and kept asking all sorts of questions about my early years in the US as a student under that passport, none of which was relevant to the citizenship application.

For example he asked me why he didn't see an initial entry stamp for my first entry to the US some ten years ago. I told him US Immigration didn't stamp my passport at that time, they just stamped my old I-94 which I no longer have. He gave me skeptical looks like as if to say he did not really believe me, but then had to drop the matter because it is technically irrelevant to the application.

I felt a bit frustrated at the end of the interview at not getting a final decision so I couldn't help telling the officer that I thought the CBSA reports would have been ordered by the time we got to the interview. I also told him that if I had known a CBSA report had yet to be ordered, I would have ordered it myself and brought it to the interview. He said CIC does not order a CBSA report automatically for everyone. It has to be ordered manually by the case officers. Kinda makes you envy Australia where citizenship officers have access to electronic entry/exit records at their fingertips, with just a few clicks at their desk computers. In Canada, requests have to be made from one department to another, with the applicant's consent first. What a rotten bureaucracy.

So ... IN PROCESS ... till the end of time.
Oh man that's unlucky!!! The lady was super nice man she clearly knows my application she just wanted to verify my ID's that's all!
 

marcus66502

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allawy86 said:
Oh man that's unlucky!!! The lady was super nice man she clearly knows my application she just wanted to verify my ID's that's all!
Yea I could tell. I was sitting and waiting right outside her door before getting called by the guy. So I heard her, and she sounded very easy going.

But yep, that's where I am. What with a wait for a CBSA report and what with it being close to Labour Day, I won't be getting an oath invitation next week, I'm sure of that
 

marcus66502

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Thank you for this info. I will be going for the test on Sept 9th and need to prepare for such a person. That means I must print all the documents that I submitted to Nova Scotia. I'm of the opinion that the guy that interviewed you is new in the system, and he's being meticulous and officious.
If your interview is not in Hamilton, I don't know how much of what I said applies to you.

If I had to make a bet, I'd say your luck will be better than mine.
 

allawy86

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Jun 3, 2016
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marcus66502 said:
Yea I could tell. I was sitting and waiting right outside her door before getting called by the guy. So I heard her, and she sounded very easy going.

But yep, that's where I am. What with a wait for a CBSA report and what with it being close to Labour Day, I won't be getting an oath invitation next week, I'm sure of that
It's alright brother, you will get it this year. However, I feel your frustrating and if I were you I wouldn't be happy as well.
 

OOW

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Jul 2, 2016
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marcus66502 said:
If your interview is not in Hamilton, I don't know how much of what I said applies to you.

If I had to make a bet, I'd say your luck will be better than mine.
Mine is in Scarborough. Maybe the guys who did in Scarborough can provide insight into the nature of the interviews at that location.
 

tharealimmigrant

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Nov 5, 2010
55
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Montreal
Category........
Visa Office......
Dakar - SENEGAL
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-02-2011
Doc's Request.
15-02-2012
IELTS Request
n/a
File Transfer...
25-03-2011
Med's Request
15-02-2012
Med's Done....
30-11-2010 then 16/02/2012 after 2nd request
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
15-02-2012
VISA ISSUED...
27-04-2012
LANDED..........
05-26-2012
Hi Allawy,

So sorry to hear about what you have gone through during your interview. I agree there was a lot of irrelevant questioning on facts prior to your time as a PR. But also to concur on an advice given by dpenabill on another thread, it would be safe to print the i94 online report and bring it along so they can match your dates in your online calculator.
I am baffled by the fact that your CBSA report hadn't already been ordered in the first place (Application asks NOT to request a report as they would take care of it). Clearly someone didn't so his job on CIC's side. Now I am wondering whether we shouldn't request our CBSA records just in case we get a difficult CIC officer at interview.

Stay strong Allawy, remember you are close to the finish line, this is just a small set back. In my opinion, the fact you only had a 2-day buffer didn't help, but still they should have checked the entry/exit records.
 

allawy86

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Jun 3, 2016
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tharealimmigrant said:
Hi Allawy,

So sorry to hear about what you have gone through during your interview. I agree there was a lot of irrelevant questioning on facts prior to your time as a PR. But also to concur on an advice given by dpenabill on another thread, it would be safe to print the i94 online report and bring it along so they can match your dates in your online calculator.
I am baffled by the fact that your CBSA report hadn't already been ordered in the first place (Application asks NOT to request a report as they would take care of it). Clearly someone didn't so his job on CIC's side. Now I am wondering whether we shouldn't request our CBSA records just in case we get a difficult CIC officer at interview.

Stay strong Allawy, remember you are close to the finish line, this is just a small set back. In my opinion, the fact you only had a 2-day buffer didn't help, but still they should have checked the entry/exit records.
Thanks for the nice words but it's not me sorry it's Marcus
 

marcus66502

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Dec 18, 2013
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tharealimmigrant said:
Hi Allawy,

So sorry to hear about what you have gone through during your interview. I agree there was a lot of irrelevant questioning on facts prior to your time as a PR. But also to concur on an advice given by dpenabill on another thread, it would be safe to print the i94 online report and bring it along so they can match your dates in your online calculator.
I am baffled by the fact that your CBSA report hadn't already been ordered in the first place (Application asks NOT to request a report as they would take care of it). Clearly someone didn't so his job on CIC's side. Now I am wondering whether we shouldn't request our CBSA records just in case we get a difficult CIC officer at interview.

Stay strong Allawy, remember you are close to the finish line, this is just a small set back. In my opinion, the fact you only had a 2-day buffer didn't help, but still they should have checked the entry/exit records.
Yea, I think your words were meant for me, and thank you.

I never really appreciated the importance of a passport until my last one expired and now I'm without one, which is one reason I'm growing impatient about this whole application process.

I know it could be worse than being without a passport (people don't have legal status), but really if you want to take a vacation anywhere outside Canada, there's really almost no place you can go without a passport (nowhere you'd want to go anyway).

I find it so hypocritical that Canadians born in Canada travel with their Canadian passports and spend almost as much time in the US as they do in their country, without any consequences whatsoever. But us, we get scrutinized as if we were spies bringing national secrets across the US border. I've spent more than four years in Canada without a single overnight absence. That's more than the Government of Canada can say about 70% of its natural-born citizens whom it has issued passports to.
 

Rigly68

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Apr 16, 2013
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Question for all that have taken the test.... Besides studying the book what else have you done to study? I am trying to prepare for my test on Sep 1st and for some reason just can't retain anything :(. I am getting a little nervous as I don't have much time left and I am having trouble remembering all the dates and names from history. I have practised with numerous online tests.

Any ideas or suggestions? Any help is greatly appreciated!
 

elie72

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Sep 12, 2010
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London
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0111
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App. Filed.......
13 Aug 2007
Doc's Request.
17 Aug 2009
AOR Received.
13 Aug 2007
Med's Request
March 2011
Med's Done....
08 April 2011
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
21 September 2011
VISA ISSUED...
05 October 2011
LANDED..........
23 December 2011
Rigly68 said:
Question for all that have taken the test.... Besides studying the book what else have you done to study? I am trying to prepare for my test on Sep 1st and for some reason just can't retain anything :(. I am getting a little nervous as I don't have much time left and I am having trouble remembering all the dates and names from history. I have practised with numerous online tests.

Any ideas or suggestions? Any help is greatly appreciated!
Use citizenshipcounts.ca it makes u understand the materials very easily plus it has many online questions, study using flashcards,....
 

Ms.kaka

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Jan 24, 2011
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Rigly68 said:
Question for all that have taken the test.... Besides studying the book what else have you done to study? I am trying to prepare for my test on Sep 1st and for some reason just can't retain anything :(. I am getting a little nervous as I don't have much time left and I am having trouble remembering all the dates and names from history. I have practised with numerous online tests.

Any ideas or suggestions? Any help is greatly appreciated!

The feeling was mutual.You are in the right track,keep it up.Just continue to practice. In my experience, online exams is more difficult than the actual test. ;D