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July 01, 2011 FSW Applicants_MI 3

shijoal

Hero Member
Feb 27, 2011
726
19
new delhi
Category........
Visa Office......
newdelhi
NOC Code......
2121
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-07-2011
Doc's Request.
not yet
Nomination.....
not yet
AOR Received.
06-09=2011
IELTS Request
sent with application
File Transfer...
09-11-2011
Med's Request
16-01-2012
Med's Done....
24-01-2012
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
16-01-2012
VISA ISSUED...
not yet
LANDED..........
not yet
hi friends,
can anyone say about the call from v o to employer? what will they enquire?

pls any body senior can share their experiance?

shijoal
 

imcomingcanada

Full Member
Jul 10, 2011
31
1
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08/07/2011
Doc's Request.
Pending
Nomination.....
Pending
AOR Received.
Pending
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
File Transfer...
Pending
Med's Request
Pending
Med's Done....
Pending
Interview........
Pending
Passport Req..
Pending
VISA ISSUED...
Pending
LANDED..........
Pending
Hey Guys,

My app. reached NS, CIC's office on 13th July'11, when do you think my BD can get encashed. As I got my BD made from a Government bank in India (although they were very fast in processing the same in 1/2 hours time), but now they are reluctant to check whether the BD has got encashed yet or not. I confirmed the process from one of my friends who work for a bank, as per him, bank's park this money in their NOSTRO accounts and it is only their foreign trade head office who can check the NOSTRO account and can confirm about the BD encashment. What about other guys who have sent their app. with a BD as processing fee !! Has anyone confirmed from their bank as yet. Is there any applicant whose app. reached CIC on 13th July and has reported that his BD or CC has been charged from 1122.

Please reply with whatever inputs you have !!
 

jeca

Star Member
Jul 13, 2011
145
1
Italy
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-June-14
AOR Received.
11-Aug-14
Med's Request
19-Feb-15
Med's Done....
09-Mar-15
VISA ISSUED...
24-Nov-2015 CoPR
WOW I just realized the next monday will be already the 6th week for those whose application were received on the "second" week of July.
I still got two more weeks to wait, if they actually inform within 6 weeks of the date application was received...
 

grimreaper

Hero Member
Oct 24, 2010
434
9
Longhandle said:
Its encouraging because dear grimreaper.....processing fee pay ment has bee made not charged.... :D :D :D.I think its some thing to do with with your user name "grimreaper" as every thing looks grim to you. ;D ;D ;D ;D
If this is not true then I'll pay you a visit at your home for the next Halloween.. ;D
 

DiW

Full Member
Sep 24, 2010
23
1
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Hi, Please update my application status hereunder. ;D


2011-July-29, 2nd application send to CIC.
2011-Aug-4 CIC rereceived application
my applcation was recieved by M.KRSZWDA
Visa Office: Beijing
 

grimreaper

Hero Member
Oct 24, 2010
434
9
jeca said:
WOW I just realized the next monday will be already the 6th week for those whose application were received on the "second" week of July.
I still got two more weeks to wait, if they actually inform within 6 weeks of the date application was received...
You have to email them check the status after 6 weeks, they do not do it by default..
 

jeca

Star Member
Jul 13, 2011
145
1
Italy
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-June-14
AOR Received.
11-Aug-14
Med's Request
19-Feb-15
Med's Done....
09-Mar-15
VISA ISSUED...
24-Nov-2015 CoPR
grimreaper said:
You have to email them check the status after 6 weeks, they do not do it by default..
True, but I believe that some kind of comunication they are sending before the 6 weeks are due, otherwise they will receive tons and tons of emails requesting application status, don't you think?

And since they are no longer sending AOR's, probably they will start with the PER's & NER's...
 

jijitipie

Hero Member
Nov 9, 2010
861
17
124
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila; noc 3152
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July8,2011
AOR Received.
Oct6,2011
File Transfer...
Nov15,2011
Med's Request
Jan4,2012
Med's Done....
Jan12,2012
Passport Req..
May 23,2012, PP received by CEM: May 28,2012 @ 10:30am
VISA ISSUED...
May 30,2012
LANDED..........
July 2012
DiW said:
Hi, Please update my application status hereunder. ;D


2011-July-29, 2nd application send to CIC.
2011-Aug-4 CIC rereceived application
my applcation was recieved by M.KRSZWDA
Visa Office: Beijing
hi just wondering why did you file another app? :)
 

angel.got.69

Full Member
Aug 3, 2011
33
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 18, 2011
VISA ISSUED...
sooner than expected!
LANDED..........
soon within this year or early next year!
Longhandle said:
Good shot..I loved your last two lines..you nailed it man.
Thanks, at least I know someone is thinking logically :D
 

Lahoree

Star Member
Jun 29, 2011
130
4
LAHORE
Category........
Visa Office......
LONDON
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
******UPDATE******

Applications received toward the overall cap: 817 of 10,000 as of August 9, 2011

Applications received per eligible occupation:
Eligible Occupation
(by National Occupational Classification [NOC] code) Number of Complete Applications Received*
0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers 30
0811 Primary Production Managers (except Agriculture) 5
1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management 391
1233 Insurance Adjusters and Claims Examiners 9
2121 Biologists and Related Scientists 28
2151 Architects 19
3111 Specialist Physicians 17
3112 General Practitioners and Family Physicians 5
3113 Dentists 19
3131 Pharmacists 35
3142 Physiotherapists 10
3152 Registered Nurses 138
3215 Medical Radiation Technologists 6
3222 Dental Hygienists and Dental Therapists 3
3233 Licensed Practical Nurses 7
4151 Psychologists 2
4152 Social Workers 25
6241 Chefs 7
6242 Cooks 12
7215 Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades 10
7216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades 12
7241 Electricians (except Industrial and Power System) 5
7242 Industrial Electricians 7
7251 Plumbers 1
7265 Welders and Related Machine Operators 1
7312 Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics 6
7371 Crane Operators 0
7372 Drillers and Blasters – Surface Mining, Quarrying and Construction 1
8222 Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service 6
 

NKKD Hortons

Champion Member
Jun 14, 2011
1,014
67
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
3131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-07-2011, CC charged: 26-09-2011
AOR Received.
PER on 24-10-2011
Hi All,

Did you know why CIC asked that the CC should be atleast valid for 6 months from the application time? This indirectly tells us in some cases it may take as long as 6 months for the CC to be charged. So, I think 6 weeks is so little as compared to 6 months. Be realistic guys rather than being optimistic or pessimistic. So teh reality applies to date of application received by CIC to 6 months forward.
 

asyed97

Star Member
Dec 8, 2010
52
1
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
july 05 2011
AOR Received.
sep 07 2011
IELTS Request
sent with application
File Transfer...
july 2012
Med's Request
Nov 7 2013
Med's Done....
Nov 22 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
Feb 17 2014
VISA ISSUED...
waiting
LANDED..........
waiting
angel.got.69 said:
Thoughts on NOC 1122 CAP
Many are speculating again, that the CAP was already reached since the first week of July, their basis of their speculation is the date of CC/BD being charged... OMG! If that will be your basis then I think no one should submit their applications now and it's high time for CIC to close the said NOC... CC/BD charging is not significant as to the total complete applications CIC posted on their website. Do you think that CIC is a one-man team operation that a single personnel could dictate when to update the cap, when to charge your cc/bd, how your applications where checked for completeness? Definitely NOT!!! So consider the personal pacing of every employee in CIC. Evidence: check the spreadsheet! If cc/bd charging will be a basis or a premise to the argument that only those who submitted their application on the 6th of July are counted over the 391 complete applications, then it would follow that charging of CC/BD must take a certain pattern based on the date the application was submitted to CIC. You should notice this in the spreadsheet: date received: 7/6/2011 = date charged: 7/27/2011 VS. date received: 7/5/2011 = date charged: 8/4/2011. No absolute pattern can be gathered on the premise that CC/BD charging is the basis for the CAP. It is more logical to say that the CAP is based on applications received that are complete in form and that CC/BD charging is based on the applications which are complete in form and complete in substance (meeting minimum eligibility requirements).
Hi,
I agree with you, the best thing is to wait and watch untill you receive any responee from CIC

Syed
 

angel.got.69

Full Member
Aug 3, 2011
33
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 18, 2011
VISA ISSUED...
sooner than expected!
LANDED..........
soon within this year or early next year!
Cappuccino said:
I must disagree.

Payment is taken BEFORE the eligibility review, and after the completeness check - unless CIO have drastically changed the system since last year. Payment was taken just a few days to be cashed, but eligibility email was still taking at least 4/5 weeks.

Wayne.
Again I won't argue with this as everything seems to based on speculations. I am not saying that I am right on this, my simple point on my statement is this. If CIC will make a move to charge all applications deemed complete in form (proper filling of forms, proper documentation ONLY) thru the receiver general, then cc/bd charging must be done on daily basis, base on the spreadsheet it is not. second imagine a simple scenario that CIC officers and employees will simply think like a robot and determine that an application is complete and ready for eligibility review and must be charged soon without looking into the factual basis of the documentation (not even falling under the minimal categories of FSW), it is a reflection of a haphazardly process. It was also mentioned in the process that "Before placing the application into processing, review the information on the file and determine whether it meets the criteria in the Ministerial Instructions." this portion of the entire process is what makes CC/BD charging slow. It is not a matter of how complete your application is, it determines the quality and veracity of the submitted application before it is charged.

I do acknowledge your concern, probably to make things easier for all of us it would be best to wait for 6 weeks, email CIC and inquire about the status of your application whether your were charged or not. the back office of CIC is very efficient in answering queries since I had experience communicating with them even filling complaints against the previous eligibilty tool which does not recognize NOC 1122 at that time.
 

angel.got.69

Full Member
Aug 3, 2011
33
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 18, 2011
VISA ISSUED...
sooner than expected!
LANDED..........
soon within this year or early next year!
Furthermore based on the update OP6 - completeness check as per R10:

•required forms, including a signed and completed IMM 0008E GEN containing the name, birth
date, address, nationality, marital status and current immigration status of the applicant and
all family members (whether accompanying or not), and identifying the principal applicant,
properly completed Schedule 1’s for the principal applicant, his or her spouse or common-law
partner and all dependent children aged 18 and older listed on the IMM 0008, as well as a
properly completed Schedule 3 for the principal applicant;
• the results of the principal applicant’s English or French language test from a designated
testing agency (see section 12.6)
evidence of payment of the applicable fees (please see Section 5.4 for more information on (note: it only asked for evidence of payment)
fees);
• the visa, permit or authorization being applied for;
• the class in which the application is made;
• the Use of a Representative form, if appropriate;
• a signed statement to the effect that the information provided is complete and accurate;
• any information and documents that may be required by the Act and Regulations.

the next step would be the assessment:

The CIO will assess the applicant’s submission as-is and make a final determination of eligibility
under the MI issued on June 26, 2010. To be eligible for processing, the applicant must meet all
the criteria described in the MI. If the application is eligible for processing, the applicant will be
informed. Once processing has begun, the cost recovery fee is no longer refundable.

The statement in bold text are the one that I am most concerned of.... why will you charge a CC/BD even if it is complete but would not at least meet the minimum criteria and then file a refund request for the applicant?

Evidence to consider when making the final determination of eligibility for processing
Review the application and determine whether it meets all the criteria of the MI. For an application
to be considered for processing under these Instructions, the applicant, on the date of application,
must:
• have experience in the last ten years under one or more (see note below) of the National
Occupation Classification (NOC) codes specified in the MI, and the application does not
exceed the maximum of 20,000 new, complete applications per year with no more than 1,000
applications of this maximum in any one NOC category;
or
• have an Arranged Employment Offer (AEO) consistent with requirements of subsection
R82(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR).

Next step: when the application is in process

Officers will review the application in detail, considering all the information and documentation
provided, and assess it against the following minimal requirements and selection criteria for
FSWs.

So? this means that even the eligibility review has a lot of stages/steps to follow that we can not say on when and at what specific portion of the entire process they charge your payments. my logical hunch is at the preliminary review to avoid refund process, why? Imagine a BD, first was purchased using local currency converted to CAD. Refund would be in CAD. you can not simply encash the refund check as it is a crossed check and since it is in CAD you have to open a Dollar account for it. CC refund is also tedious depending on the financial institution. Based on my personal experience we have a system that process refund request for CC charged, first that charges may be considered as pending but the transaction already went thru, or it was already drawn into the account of the payee. the financial institution must request the auth code in order to process the refund. The hell with this financial institutions, I had customers who would even wait for months just to receive a credit back on their accounts, so I would have to call the financial institution, provide them all codes and everything and again wait for the next billing cycle.

This is the reality applicants would have to face that is why CIC have to be cautious in charging fee payments.
 

DiW

Full Member
Sep 24, 2010
23
1
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
jijitipie said:
hi just wondering why did you file another app? :)
there is no reply from Pretoria Visa office at all, I don't know what is going on in South Africa. so I applied agian to Beijing.