JOB Offer: How to get Valid Job offer at least one year after PR acceptable by CIC

[jes_ON]

No company in canada gives the Permanent offer without the PR. And as per your suggestion , I need permanent offer from Canadian company before PR to claim 600 points. This is kind of chicken - egg problem.

No, it is not. Many people succeed with valid job offers. Job offer Letters can contain phrases like:

"This offer of permanent employment is contingent upon Mr X obtaining permanent resident status in Canada."

"The term of employment is for a minimum of one year from the date Mr X obtains permanent resident status."

BTW - valid job offers are no longer worth 600 points, this changed last year. They are now worth 50 points for NOC A &B jobs, and 200 points for NOC O jobs.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/offer.asp

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=112&top=29

 

[metalrahul]

No company in canada gives the Permanent offer without the PR. And as per your suggestion , I need permanent offer from Canadian company before PR to claim 600 points. This is kind of chicken - egg problem. Please suggest.

I understand It could be minimum one year or more if not permanent?

 

[jes_ON]

I understand It could be minimum one year or more if not permanent?

Yes, under last year's rule change. (This was a good rule change!)

 

[jonnnie23]

My friend had:

3 years of PGWP
After expiry he applied extension on the basis of AINP (Not on PR file number), He got closed work permit with employer stated on work permit. (NO LMIA)

He worked for that employer 6months on PGWP and 6 month until now on Closed employer stated WP.

Can he claim 50 points for offer of employment/arranged employment ?[/

@Amdavadi did your friend get claim those 50 points? In a similar position, not sure what to do??

 

[guille1612]

Hello
Actually i have a similar situation as mahendra94us. I have been transferred from another country to Toronto for the same company, under the Intra-company transfer category, LMO exempt. Below is the statement of my contract / job offer, but HR and/or my manager says that giving a letter saying that i have just 1 minimal year of secured job, could be risky for me, as i have already a permanent position, subject of course to good behavior. However, now, my migration lawyer, Canadavisa, is not willing even to create my express entry profile including this 50 points, because there is no paper saying "at least 1 year".
Somebody knows if the IRCC will consider OK a permanent position?, considering that I already have been working in Toronto for 2 years with good performance evaluations so far.

My contract states the following:
Dear Guillermo
On behalf of The Smurfs Village, I am pleased to offer you, subject to work permit approval, the regular full-time position of Programmer, in The Lost Village, within IT&S in Toronto, reporting to Papa Smurf. Your employment will commence upon issuance of a valid work permit. Your date of Continuous service with the village will remain from January 1, 1995.

Please advise!
Thank you in advance for your answers.
Guillermo

 

[jes_ON]

Hello
Actually i have a similar situation as mahendra94us. I have been transferred from another country to Toronto for the same company, under the Intra-company transfer category, LMO exempt. Below is the statement of my contract / job offer, but HR and/or my manager says that giving a letter saying that i have just 1 minimal year of secured job, could be risky for me, as i have already a permanent position, subject of course to good behavior.

There is no reason it has to say for "one year." It can be much longer than that, or "permanent," or "at least one year..." The key is, it is a FUTURE job offer (not your current one), effective when you become a permanent resident. This should not have any negative impact on your job.

Regardless of how you are classified by your employer, you are on a temporary work permit, therefore your work is temporary.

However, now, my migration lawyer, Canadavisa, is not willing even to create my express entry profile including this 50 points, because there is no paper saying "at least 1 year".

Your lawyer is correct. Without this future job offer, you are not eligible for the extra 50 points.

 

[guille1612]

Thank you jes_ON
If i get a letter saying that my position has an "indeterminate end", would that be sufficient? That is something that i may get from HR as someone told me...

 

[guille1612]

Actually, i got this letter. Can you confirm if this is ok for a valid job offer in your opinion? :



December 21, 2017

CONFIRMATION OF FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT FOR A PERMANENT RESIDENCY APPLICATION FOR: Guillermo

This is to confirm that Guillermo has been working as a Programmer at xxx from January 1, 2015 until present.

The details of their position are as follows:

Job Title: Programmer

Salary: $ 34434.00 per annum, $ 6767.67 paid-bi-weekly

Term of Employment: Permanent, Full Time, 7.5 hours a day, 37.5 hours per week.

Benefits: Medical, Dental,

Job Duties:

Listed, same list as the verification letter for Canadian experience

 

[jes_ON]

Actually, i got this letter. Can you confirm if this is ok for a valid job offer in your opinion? :



December 21, 2017

CONFIRMATION OF FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT FOR A PERMANENT RESIDENCY APPLICATION FOR: Guillermo

This is to confirm that Guillermo has been working as a Programmer at xxx from January 1, 2015 until present.

The details of their position are as follows:

Job Title: Programmer

Salary: $ 34434.00 per annum, $ 6767.67 paid-bi-weekly

Term of Employment: Permanent, Full Time, 7.5 hours a day, 37.5 hours per week.

Benefits: Medical, Dental,

Job Duties:

Listed, same list as the verification letter for Canadian experience

This looks like a reference letter, not a job offer letter. There is nothing about the future or a job offer after you become a permanent resident.

So, no, I do not think this will suffice for a "valid job offer."

 

[guille1612]

This looks like a reference letter, not a job offer letter. There is nothing about the future or a job offer after you become a permanent resident.

So, no, I do not think this will suffice for a "valid job offer."

Hi jes_ON
However in Terms of Employment, it clearly states "PERMANENT, FULL-TIME". this for sure should cover the case of what would happen after i got the PR. Don't you think so?
Thank you!

 

[jes_ON]

Hi jes_ON
However in Terms of Employment, it clearly states "PERMANENT, FULL-TIME". this for sure should cover the case of what would happen after i got the PR. Don't you think so?
Thank you!

No. Your current job cannot be used (unless you have an LMIA).

 

[guille1612]

No. Your current job cannot be used (unless you have an LMIA).

Hello. About the LMIA i believe is not my case. I have been transferred with a job offer LMIA exempt, because of a intra-company transfer, and i fulfill these requirements:

if you have a valid work permit for a NOC 0, A or B job that is exempt from needing an LMIA, and you:

• are currently working for an employer specified on the work permit
• have one year of full-time work experience (or an equal amount of part-time work) for that employer
• have a valid job offer from that employer for at least one year after we issue your permanent resident visa (THIS ONE BASED ON THE PERMANENT STATUS).

So based on all this information, i believe my current job should be ok to use for applying, as long as my position is permanent, which indeed covers the "1-year minimum" requirement.

what do you think?

 

[jes_ON]

Hello. About the LMIA i believe is not my case. I have been transferred with a job offer LMIA exempt, because of a intra-company transfer, and i fulfill these requirements:

if you have a valid work permit for a NOC 0, A or B job that is exempt from needing an LMIA, and you:

• are currently working for an employer specified on the work permit
• have one year of full-time work experience (or an equal amount of part-time work) for that employer
• have a valid job offer from that employer for at least one year after we issue your permanent resident visa (THIS ONE BASED ON THE PERMANENT STATUS).

So based on all this information, i believe my current job should be ok to use for applying, as long as my position is permanent, which indeed covers the "1-year minimum" requirement.

what do you think?

I have already told you what I think. You need a new job offer letter. Good luck!

 

[mahendra94us]

No, it is not. Many people succeed with valid job offers. Job offer Letters can contain phrases like:

"This offer of permanent employment is contingent upon Mr X obtaining permanent resident status in Canada."

"The term of employment is for a minimum of one year from the date Mr X obtains permanent resident status."

BTW - valid job offers are no longer worth 600 points, this changed last year. They are now worth 50 points for NOC A &B jobs, and 200 points for NOC O jobs.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/offer.asp

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=112&top=29

Hi
When i discuss this situation couple of immigration lawyers in Toronto, they informed me that no multinational company give offer letter as asked by the CIC. Thoughts please....

 

[mahendra94us]

Any thoughts?