ITA for FSW (Proof of Funds)

[manjowithane]

Hi all,

So I was invited to apply today under federal skilled worker. I am currently in Canada on an LMIA but my contract is not permanent (which I stated in my profile) so therefore I do not have a valid job offer. I also don't have $11,931 or however much you need.

How was I ever picked for FSW??? Not sure what to do now!

 

[Asivad Anac]

Re: ITA for FSW


First up, you have 60 days to think this through starting today.

Secondly, were you not eligible under both CEC and FSW in the first place? If so, why is it surprising that you got an ITA under FSW? If not, this sounds suspiciously similar to the Feb misadventure involving CEC candidates whose ITAs were then promptly cancelled a week later and reissued another week later under CEC.

 

[manjowithane]

Re: ITA for FSW

I actually thought it would give me a choice of which one to apply under so I didn't think much of it. I am not sure why it allows me to apply under FSW as I put down I only have $3,000 funds....

 

[manjowithane]

Re: ITA for FSW

Anyone have any idea what I can do? Could it be a glitch in the system?

 

[Dynonobel]

Re: ITA for FSW

Many people (my Wife included) that were eligible for both FSW and CEC were invited to apply under FSW. I guess that it has to do with numbers for each respective stream.

My understanding of the proof of funds situation is that FSW and CEC is irrelevant, provided you are working in Canada and supporting yourself. Everyone (FSW or CEC) has to provide documentation showing that they can support themselves, it just varies what you must show depending on if you are working in canada or not.

The specific language used by CIC is as follows "Unless you are currently authorized to work in Canada and have a valid job offer from an employer in Canada, you must show that you have enough money to support yourself and your family after you get to Canada."

How long is your contract for? are you positive that CIC would not consider this a valid job offer for this purpose? At the point you applied for EE you had a valid job supported by LMIA. Did you receive 600 points in your score for a valid job? Sorry I don't know enough about the job situation.

 

[Dreams123]

Re: ITA for FSW

I was also eligible for both CEC and FSW but received ITA for FSW only.

 

[purplesnow]

Re: ITA for FSW

Many people (my Wife included) that were eligible for both FSW and CEC were invited to apply under FSW. I guess that it has to do with numbers for each respective stream.

My understanding of the proof of funds situation is that FSW and CEC is irrelevant, provided you are working in Canada and supporting yourself. Everyone (FSW or CEC) has to provide documentation showing that they can support themselves, it just varies what you must show depending on if you are working in canada or not.

The specific language used by CIC is as follows "Unless you are currently authorized to work in Canada and have a valid job offer from an employer in Canada, you must show that you have enough money to support yourself and your family after you get to Canada."

How long is your contract for? are you positive that CIC would not consider this a valid job offer for this purpose? At the point you applied for EE you had a valid job supported by LMIA. Did you receive 600 points in your score for a valid job? Sorry I don't know enough about the job situation.

No - there's a section on CIC website that specifically states a valid job is only one with an LMIA. therefore under FSW, unless you have an LMIA you need to prove funds.

 

[Dynonobel]

Re: ITA for FSW

No - there's a section on CIC website that specifically states a valid job is only one with an LMIA. therefore under FSW, unless you have an LMIA you need to prove funds.

OK, but the OP stated "I am currently in Canada on an LMIA..."

I understand that job is not permanent but at the time you applied you presumably met the criteria for a valid job offer as you were working with a Work Permit supported by an LMIA.

 

[sjrohit]

Re: ITA for FSW

this whole thing is very confusing...

I have a similar case..
I am in canada on LMIA with one year contract, but My job is not permanent. I got 600 points and got my ITA as well. I have submitted my profile and its still in progress.

But I read a similar case on this forum...CIC decuted 600 LMIA points from one person's profile and rejected his PR application because he did not have the permanent job, he was also on a 2 years contract job along with LMIA so now he will have to just hope to come into the draw with remaining points.

So I am not sure what is right or wrong, if the job has to be permanent or not. As far as the proof of funds is concerned, you wont have to show that coz you are already working in canada. You will just need to submit a letter from your bank along with your income tax details.

Rohit

 

[manjowithane]

Re: ITA for FSW

I am on an LMIA and currently working here, but my contract is not permanent (it is until February 2016) so I did not get the 600 points. It is not a 'valid job offer' in that sense.

Definition of a valid job offer on the CIC website for FSW is very particular...

@ sjrohit If your contract is not permanent you should not have got the 600 points. Did you accidentally put down that you had a permanent contract?

I actually calculated my funds I have back at home, and I just have enough, so I will probably provide bank statements, along with T4, NOA, Letter of Employment and pay stubs to back it up.

 

[cryptic0]

In today's day and age, who has a permanent job offer? Unless the government itself offers you a job, there are no guarantees anywhere. This whole thing is really confusing.

 

[Dynonobel]

In today's day and age, who has a permanent job offer? Unless the government itself offers you a job, there are no guarantees anywhere. This whole thing is really confusing.

It really is. Technically my wife's contract expires in 2020. So if CIC really wanted to get picky then they could consider her job to be not permanent. Of course that is not the case, it is just how employment contracts are written typically.

So where does CIC draw the line?

 

[cryptic0]

Canada and US follow very different models for immigration. The US system does offer you a way to get around the labor certification. But then the burden of proof for extraordinary ability is set so high that unless you are cream of the cream, there is no way to get through it. They should try holding their own citizens to the same standard.

On the other hand, the Canadian system relies 100% on point based system. There is no leeway for deviating from that system at all. For example my scholar citation index means nothing to CIC. They also tend to put people with Masters in the same category as PhDs.

I don't know which system is better. The one that will make me a permanent resident, I guess. Sigh.

 

[manjowithane]

Another question regarding proof of funds. What date of the latest balance does my statement need to show? If I get a statement today but don't submit my application for another month will it still be valid?

 

[Asivad Anac]

Another question regarding proof of funds. What date of the latest balance does my statement need to show? If I get a statement today but don't submit my application for another month will it still be valid?

I don't think CIC has any firm rules on this front but it is recommended to have the letter issued as close to submission as possible so that you rule out getting the VO too excited about checking on this front.