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Is this a complex sponsorship case? am I in trouble?

Saskatoon-Tree

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May 20, 2010
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I will start searching for and consulting with lawyers from Tuesday.
My worry is: is there any risk he may be deported or removed while we are preparing for the best action.
My Ex is still living in the neighbourhood. I am too worried from him.
 
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iarblue

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Well if your ex has not concerned himself before i doubt he will now.And yes if you consult a lawyer and he is found to be illegal he is obligated to disclose it to the officals.He likely got in illegal but used his proper id for marriage as if it is that he is trying to get in her using false id for a marriage would do him no good right.So he is likely who he says he is but yes he is likely here illegally and just tell him if he is here illegal he needs to tell you so you can help him to get legal.
And how you might go about that i do not know any way you can.His life is not threatened,he will not be tortured if he is returned home.So i dont know of anyway you can get him legal.
So tell him you love him and you dont want him to be thrown out so just say to him if your here illegaly we need to fix it.So he becomes legal so you can apply for sponsorship.
I would go to an immigration consultant first get info from them before you consult the lawyer like i sadi lawyers are obligated to disclose illegal acts to the officals consultants are not.
 

Saskatoon-Tree

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May 20, 2010
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He is illegal here.....
How are we going to fix it? I have no clue!
If lawyers or anyone else reported him, what can happen to him in the limbo period where we are trying a solution and a fix? anu idea? plz let me know
 
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iarblue

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He can and most likely will be deported if you go to lawyers but then again it will likelt depend on the lawyer.Like i said consult a immigration consultant ask them if there is anyway you can get him legall tell them you want to sponsor him because you are married and pregnant.
See what they say first then if the consultant tells you how to do it then get a lawyer to do it for you.Calm down they are not coming to break down doors lol.Just get on the phone tuesday to a consultant and ask them.They may have a way to recover this.
They themself may tell you he has to leave and apply once he is home,but you say he has no country to go to???Where is he from he will have to go somewhere if they cant fix what he done.
Look here people know all to well what it is like to be away from your loved one and we all make sure we do everything so legal so we dont screw up our process you need to do the same get him legal how ever you can and if he has to leave to his homeland then he will have to.Because no mater what if you do not get him legal and they do find out he will be deported to his home country.All it takes is a neighbour to call immigration or your ex.
 

Saskatoon-Tree

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May 20, 2010
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Sometimes, I get my hopes as high as the sky. Some other times, I feel overwhelmed and confused.
Look at the true story given by canadianwoman above. Her friend entred US illegally and stayed there illegally. Then entered Canada illegally and lived here illegally. He was arrested, convicted in Canada and then deported. His 1st Cnd wife refused to sponsor him. He got married to the second Cnd wife, and who knows if he was already married before both Cnds. He was successful without even an appeal. This is where and how I feel hope then feel the system can be full of loopholes
 
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iarblue

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Yes it is for sure.But i just dont want you getting hurt more in the end.I really just suggest talking to a consultant first.See what he/she says.Then go from there.There very well coud be a easy way for him to get status that none of us know about.Dont get all upset yet until you find out all your options.
I know that other countries have their hard times and hell if it was me and the choice was stay in my home country under war or what ever or go to another country that is not illegally i know what i would do.
So you cant fault him for wanting a better life,but he does need to get legal so take your time breathe talk to people find out your options then you know what you guys need to do.
The other that is being said about terrorists and such.I dont think so.I think he was just scared and did what he had to do to get to you.So see what you can do to help him.
 

sbwv09

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Feb 18, 2010
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Saskatoon-Tree said:
Sometimes, I get my hopes as high as the sky. Some other times, I feel overwhelmed and confused.
Look at the true story given by canadianwoman above. Her friend entred US illegally and stayed there illegally. Then entered Canada illegally and lived here illegally. He was arrested, convicted in Canada and then deported. His 1st Cnd wife refused to sponsor him. He got married to the second Cnd wife, and who knows if he was already married before both Cnds. He was successful without even an appeal. This is where and how I feel hope then feel the system can be full of loopholes
Also understand that many people who do everything right and by the book are turned down every day. There are probably more cases like that than the one you cite. Not trying to discourage you but just realize you have an uphill battle ahead.
 

LandC

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Feb 22, 2010
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sbwv09 said:
Also understand that many people who do everything right and by the book are turned down every day. There are probably more cases like that than the one you cite. Not trying to discourage you but just realize you have an uphill battle ahead.
I couldn't of said it better myself, do it right and above board. You might get lucky and find a loophole or he could get caught and kicked out of the country and banned from getting back in, don't risk it for the short term comfort of him staying here.

best of luck
 

Siouxie

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Sep 15, 2008
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Saskatoon-Tree said:
Sometimes, I get my hopes as high as the sky. Some other times, I feel overwhelmed and confused.
Look at the true story given by canadianwoman above. Her friend entred US illegally and stayed there illegally. Then entered Canada illegally and lived here illegally. He was arrested, convicted in Canada and then deported. His 1st Cnd wife refused to sponsor him. He got married to the second Cnd wife, and who knows if he was already married before both Cnds. He was successful without even an appeal. This is where and how I feel hope then feel the system can be full of loopholes
If you read carefully, it was stated he was caught and then deported from Canada. He would have been excluded for 2 years. After that he could apply for a return to Canada... he obtained PR after legally entering the second time (I am presuming) not whilst he was here illegally.

The facts are that your husband

1) entered the country at a point other than a border crossing OR entered Canada using false or forged ID.
2) he did not apply for a visa even though he requires one to enter Canada
3) he did not inform a Border Services agent that he was applying for refugee status.
4) he didn't inform the BSA that he was here to get married.

He is here not by overstaying his visitor permit or similar ... he crossed the border, used forged or fake ID and is here ILLEGALLY. Taking that into consideration it is highly unlikely that he is going to be granted PR. Not just on the terms of his illegal entry, but on the lack of evidence of your committed relationship - getting married within a month of meeting is going to raise alarms.

You must ascertain how he entered the country and if he used fake ID to do so.

I wouldn't hold out any hope of a loophole. Hundreds of genuine, applicants with legal status are refused every year...

Rather than wait for him to be arrested, far better for him to turn himself in to a Border Service department and post a surety bond guaranteeing he will leave.
 
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iarblue

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Well were not here to judge anyone correct we are here to help.Take my advice get some consultaion.Be strong be positive.If all fails and he has to leave tell him to do it on his own dont wait till someone does it for him if he does it on his own they he will be able to apply a lot easier.
 

Siouxie

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26=01=2010
I am not judging, the OP has given this information freely and the facts are that her husband did require a visa but didn't apply for one, (he could have applied for a temporary resident visa at a Canadian consulate but chose not to), and entered Canada either by crossing the border (other than at a border crossing) or by using false ID. He is here illegally.

If he leaves Canada voluntarily, his "illegal" crossing into Canada will not be held against him with regards to Immigration. If he waits to be deported then he may be exluded for 2 years.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf02-eng.pdf 3:14

It is important to note that the “committing, on entering Canada” allegation only affects a
person's admissibility on the occasion of that person seeking to enter Canada. In other
words, if an officer believes a person to be inadmissible for having committed an offence
“on entering Canada,” and that person is subsequently allowed to withdraw or otherwise
leaves Canada, the person cannot at some future date or time be viewed as being
inadmissible for a past “committing, on entering Canada” offence.
For greater clarity, the
A36(2)(d) inadmissibility allegation provision may only be used in the circumstance of a
“present tense” scenario.

Legal advice is your best bet if he cannot return to Iraq.
 

peacekeeper

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Saskatoon-Tree said:
Sometimes, I get my hopes as high as the sky. Some other times, I feel overwhelmed and confused.
Look at the true story given by canadianwoman above. Her friend entred US illegally and stayed there illegally. Then entered Canada illegally and lived here illegally. He was arrested, convicted in Canada and then deported. His 1st Cnd wife refused to sponsor him. He got married to the second Cnd wife, and who knows if he was already married before both Cnds. He was successful without even an appeal. This is where and how I feel hope then feel the system can be full of loopholes
Hi Saskatoon-tree
Go ahead and start processing, the best way to know about the procedure, as i told in a previous post, go to OPEN DOOR SOCIETy they can help you for free with some expert immigraiton lawyer
Gooddddd Luck
Trust on ur Love...........
 
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iarblue

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Yes exactly what i was saying peacekeeper trust herself and get some consultation
 

canadianwoman

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Siouxie said:
If you read carefully, it was stated he was caught and then deported from Canada. He would have been excluded for 2 years. After that he could apply for a return to Canada... he obtained PR after legally entering the second time (I am presuming) not whilst he was here illegally.
This guy is from Nigeria - no way would he ever be able to get a TRV. His second wife went to Nigeria, they got married there, and then she sponsored him.

For the OP: use the time your husband is here to gather as much proof of a genuine relationship as you can, because you are going to need it. Look through the topics to find out what kinds of proof the visa officers want to see.