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Important OHIP eligibility info for all PR applicants residing in Ontario

JayPinNC

Star Member
Oct 22, 2014
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Ok, so let me get this straight, because I just got off the phone with a somewhat annoyed Service Ontario employee.

Backstory:

Wife has been a resident in Ontario on a VR since Jan 30, 2015.
Got her driver's license on April 14, 2015
Rec'd CoPR on July 28, 2015, but applied on Dec 2, 2014.
She's got a bank account, car insurance etc....

There seems to be some confusion on the part of Service Ontario about a CoPR being the sole determination for residency and, therefore, eligibility. Confusion between residency and permanent residency, maybe? I was just told that my wife's waiting period will start on the date of her CoPR even though she's been residing here for six months.

Or is this kind of an if...then... type thing and I've got my order of operations out of whack? (meaning the CoPR HAS to come first before anything...)

Ugh
 

JayPinNC

Star Member
Oct 22, 2014
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I also just read this on this page: http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/programs/ohip/ohipfaq_mn.aspx

If you are applying for Ontario health insurance coverage as an Applicant for Permanent Residence, you are required to present written confirmation from Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) that you are eligible to apply for permanent residence in Canada, which may be one of the following :

CIC Confirmation Letter – letter on CIC letterhead addressed to the Applicant for Permanent Residence that confirms that the applicant is eligible to apply for permanent residency in Canada;
CIC Immigration document such as a Work Permit, Visitor Record, Temporary Resident Permit or Study Permit with note in the "Remarks Section" that indicates that you have applied for permanent residence and the CIC has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence in Canada.


Now my wife already has her CoPR, so did we miss a window of opportunity here? Seems kind of odd that we would have a window with no wait period and then a new window with a wait period. Thoughts anyone?
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
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JayPinNC said:
I was just told that my wife's waiting period will start on the date of her CoPR even though she's been residing here for six months.
This is correct. Date of actually landing as a PR, + 3 months.
 

kuriositty

Full Member
Mar 4, 2015
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0
Alberta
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 21, 2015
AOR Received.
June 13, 2015 [OWP 7/15/2015]
Med's Request
May 5, 2016
Med's Done....
May 19, 2016
I recently got my work permit and I understand that you need to work for at least 6 months before being able to apply for OHIP. So if I wait my 6 months and get a letter from employer saying that I have been employed there for that time will I still have to wait another 3 months for OHIP?

Or will I still need other things such as SA, etc?
 

bartjones

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Jan 5, 2013
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Manila
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Pre-Assessed..
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03/08/2013
Doc's Request.
08/27/2013 and 12/20/13 and 07/24/14
AOR Received.
16/03/2013
File Transfer...
04/04/13
Med's Done....
29/01/2013 redone 13/02/14 and 25/03/14
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
2014/08/27
LANDED..........
09/09/2014
kuriositty said:
I recently got my work permit and I understand that you need to work for at least 6 months before being able to apply for OHIP. So if I wait my 6 months and get a letter from employer saying that I have been employed there for that time will I still have to wait another 3 months for OHIP?

Or will I still need other things such as SA, etc?
You shouldn't have to wait for SA. The work permit should qualify you for OHIP but exactly when it will kick in, I don't know. Have you gone to Service Ontario to ask about it?
 

ashia

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Jul 27, 2013
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Category........
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-10-2014
AOR Received.
09-01-2015
File Transfer...
20-01-2015
Med's Done....
upfront
Passport Req..
29-05-2015
VISA ISSUED...
09-06-2015
LANDED..........
04-07-2015
hi guys,
I've got my answer about OHIP: they said I am eligible for coverage, and the date when I've become eligible was simply the date when my visa was issued. So, much later than I expected, but still it gives me 1 month less waiting:
  • visa issued: June 9th --> OHIP starts September 9th
  • landing: July 4th --> would have to wait till October

So, worth applying, I guess ;)

Thanks for all your advices and help here :)
 

PTJ

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Jun 8, 2014
249
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I also got feedback from the Review Panel as well today. And they confirmed I'm eligible from the date CIC gave me 1st stage approval (IN-LAND PR application). Unfortunately the review too so long (I requested for review in June 2015) and I got the feedback today August 20th; I'd already apply with my OWP in July and with August 11th coverage start....so it does't really make any difference for me.
 

bartjones

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Jan 5, 2013
1,071
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Manila
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03/08/2013
Doc's Request.
08/27/2013 and 12/20/13 and 07/24/14
AOR Received.
16/03/2013
File Transfer...
04/04/13
Med's Done....
29/01/2013 redone 13/02/14 and 25/03/14
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
2014/08/27
LANDED..........
09/09/2014
ashia said:
hi guys,
I've got my answer about OHIP: they said I am eligible for coverage, and the date when I've become eligible was simply the date when my visa was issued. So, much later than I expected, but still it gives me 1 month less waiting:
  • visa issued: June 9th --> OHIP starts September 9th
  • landing: July 4th --> would have to wait till October

So, worth applying, I guess ;)

Thanks for all your advices and help here :)
Did that answer come from Service Ontario or OERC? Either way, it's wrong, unless your visa was issued on the same day you passed your eligibility assessment.
 

JayPinNC

Star Member
Oct 22, 2014
61
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Rob_TO said:
This is correct. Date of actually landing as a PR, + 3 months.
Then how do we explain those on here who have rec'd OHIP based on their CIC eligibility date? Before landing.

She's been here since January, was likely found eligible by CIC to be a PR in May (while she was living here).
 

Panamai

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Oct 3, 2013
495
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Kingston, Ontario
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
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29-01-2015
AOR Received.
28-03-2015
File Transfer...
31-03-2015
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
16-01-2015
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
DM 05-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
17-11-2015
LANDED..........
23-11-2015
How do you go about proving you were found eligible on a certain date? Do they GCMS notes help at all? I'm going to assume most Service Ontario offices look for the COPR because that's the easiest, most straightforward way to prove your eligibility immigration-wise. My application is finally "in process" and I'm due to receive a new copy of notes around Sept. 11. I've already done the appeal once and CIC had not done my eligibility check yet. If the notes show they have finally and I still haven't received DM, would I need to start over a new appeal or could I just fax over a copy of the notes and ask them to take another look? This is all super confusing! Thanks!
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
JayPinNC said:
Then how do we explain those on here who have rec'd OHIP based on their CIC eligibility date? Before landing.

She's been here since January, was likely found eligible by CIC to be a PR in May (while she was living here).
Those that applied outland need to have gone through the process explained at beginning of this thread (apply for OHIP, get rejected, appeal to OERC, have them contact VO to determine if eligible and if so what the date would be).

If you didn't go through that whole process, then you will get OHIP 3 months after getting COPR and not any sooner.
 

bartjones

Champion Member
Jan 5, 2013
1,071
62
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03/08/2013
Doc's Request.
08/27/2013 and 12/20/13 and 07/24/14
AOR Received.
16/03/2013
File Transfer...
04/04/13
Med's Done....
29/01/2013 redone 13/02/14 and 25/03/14
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
2014/08/27
LANDED..........
09/09/2014
Panamai said:
How do you go about proving you were found eligible on a certain date? Do they GCMS notes help at all? I'm going to assume most Service Ontario offices look for the COPR because that's the easiest, most straightforward way to prove your eligibility immigration-wise. My application is finally "in process" and I'm due to receive a new copy of notes around Sept. 11. I've already done the appeal once and CIC had not done my eligibility check yet. If the notes show they have finally and I still haven't received DM, would I need to start over a new appeal or could I just fax over a copy of the notes and ask them to take another look? This is all super confusing! Thanks!
A few months after the OERC rejects your appeal, fax them a letter asking them to check again. They will enquire again with CIC and, if you've passed your eligibility assessment this time, they'll grant your coverage.
 

Panamai

Hero Member
Oct 3, 2013
495
30
Kingston, Ontario
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Ottawa
App. Filed.......
29-01-2015
AOR Received.
28-03-2015
File Transfer...
31-03-2015
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
16-01-2015
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
DM 05-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
17-11-2015
LANDED..........
23-11-2015

qasim786

Star Member
Mar 7, 2010
158
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Karachi
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London,UK
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04/07/2014
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04/11/2014
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
Med's Request
15/4/2015
Med's Done....
28/4/2015
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Waived (Third line updated on 15th May 2015)
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04th Sept 2015
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......In Sha Allah all on 23/10/2015

stephcy

Star Member
Dec 15, 2014
196
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Toronto
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OTTAWA
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2151
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
AOR Received.
22-10-2015
File Transfer...
04-11-2015
Med's Done....
21-07-2015
Passport Req..
DECISION MADE 07.03.2016 - no passport request
VISA ISSUED...
CoPR 14.03.2016
LANDED..........
19-03-2016
Hi everyone :)

I'm so happy to have found this post :) we have applied for outland sponshorship visa to be sponsored by my Canadian common-law parter. We got SA last week saying that my application is forwarded to Ottawa and not Rome, which was supposed to be my VO, as I'm currently living in Canada under a visitor visa.

I have been in Canada since August 2014 and I have a visitor's visa extension until 30th June 2016. Luckly until now I never got sick, but you never know :) With my partner we want to start a family pretty soon, we don't want for up to 17 months that my application might take to be approved...

I read all the posts in this topic, and from my understanding is still early for me to apply for OHIP. Can anyone tell me how long we should wait before we apply.... We though we might take our chances and go on Saturday at an Ontario Service Center and ask for info, and probably get the Ontario Photo card or ask how to get the driver's licence.... I thought all these services were only accessible to Canadians.


Thank you :) Great post by the way