IELTS done, please calculate my overall points.

[thebeast184]

:-X I think the education points is one of the most confusing issues and I am glad I had a consultant to help me with them. My case for example I was super nerd (sorry lack of a better word) and I completed in five years a Bachelors in Science, A masters in Science and a Masters in engineering from two of the top US universities (one was an ivy). So in my case for example, I would have never met the number of years but just because I was able to overload academically and anticipate the duration of my programs. CIC still gave me all 25 points for my education although I was only 23 at the time I had completed all of my education it didn't set any alerts or anything. So in the end what I am trying to say is that the number of "years" is not necessarily the driving factor credentials are also part of it.

Just sharing my case

 

[winendine]

Hi,
I am referring you to Captain “Qorax”. He is the best of the best here. Ask him your question:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/a-master-thread-of-some-of-my-posts-here-t40175.0.html

By the way, I have seen many applicants got refused by CIC since they got only 20 or 22 points whereas they claimed 22 or 25 points respectively. That's the reason I advised you to sit for IELTS again to be in safe side. Post graduate diploma is not masters nor Bachelor and that is why your total points for education will be only 20.

BR
Dr.Hasib

Thanks for the link.

 

[winendine]

The beast:

Yes, it is best to take legal paid advice in such cases, especially when a grey area like this one exist. Will take advice from a certified Canadian immigration lawyer, for my peace of mind.

Dr Hasib:

There are 123 pages in qorax link, could you specify which page your talking about?

 

[Dr.Hasib]

The beast:

Yes, it is best to take legal paid advice in such cases, especially when a grey area like this one exist. Will take advice from a certified Canadian immigration lawyer, for my peace of mind.

Dr Hasib:

There are 123 pages in qorax link, could you specify which page your talking about?

lol..just post your question at the last page..he will reply u.

 

[azazaz]

Azaz:

Thank you for your post Azaz, I think people are interpreting a Post Graduate Degree and a Post Graduate Diploma differently. I believe both are come in the definitions of "Education Credentials", By saying that, I mean they are both equivalent "credentials" to satisfy the selection point system, but as long as the "credential" comes after a prerequisite of a Bachelors degree.

Let me take you thru some definitions from the OP6:


“Educational credential” is defined in R73 as any diploma, degree or trade or apprenticeship
credential issued on the completion of a program of study or training at an educational or
training institution recognized by the authorities responsible for registering, accrediting,
supervising and regulating such institutions in the country of issue.

Next in discussion is the above "Educational Credential" defination as used in the selection system for 22 points.

OP6 states:

Two or more university educational credentials at the bachelor's level and at
least 15 years of completed full-time or full-time equivalent studies 22 points

Please analyse what I have said and convince me.

they are not. what your final degree says as written on it. does it say diploma or degree? if it is diploma the you will get 20 ponits only. now please understand and take another ielts to get full 16 points to qualify. your continuos grulling wont help.

 

[winendine]

they are not. what your final degree says as written on it. does it say diploma or degree? if it is diploma the you will get 20 ponits only. now please understand and take another ielts to get full 16 points to qualify. your continuos grulling wont help.

G-R-U-L-L-I-N-G -- Azazaz bhai where does this word come from? I must affirm that this very delicate word doesn't suit your strong vocabulary . Its "grueling" or " annoying" in simple mans terms.

And with all due respect sir, I will stop this GRULLING thread for your benefit. Now smile you miserable word expert. I am sure you got a high 8 in your IELTS.

Do take my advice and practice writing with extra focus on spellings. Its important for your future as an immigrant. And if you don't and ignore my advice, I will have to say, "Never teach a pig to dance, first you waste your time, and second it annoys the pig"

 

[azazaz]

G-R-U-L-L-I-N-G -- Azazaz bhai where does this word come from? I must affirm that this very delicate word doesn't suit your strong vocabulary . Its "grueling" or " annoying" in simple mans terms.

And with all due respect sir, I will stop this GRULLING thread for your benefit. Now smile you miserable word expert. I am sure you got a high 8 in your IELTS.

Do take my advice and practice writing with extra focus on spellings. Its important for your future as an immigrant. And if you don't and ignore my advice, I will have to say, "Never teach a pig to dance, first you waste your time, and second it annoys the pig"

lolz..........man..... so you are a pig...... you are absouletely right we should never be wasting time teaching you to dance..... ..man go take another ielts instead of wasting time here.......i can see from where you coming from...you must be having hard time in your life as you are not ready to listen to others and you can go beyond limits to defend your abnoxious cause . i can see how you challanged dr.hasib...your only motive here is to keep arguing with people and keep defending your lethargic logic.......an advice for you, this time must concentrate on reading part to get more than 5...... and for your information i got 8 in reading not 5.... :-*

and finally waiting for your reply as i am sure you will definitely hit back...... ;D..lmao......... ;D

 

[Dr.Hasib]

lolz..........man..... so you are a pig...... you are absouletely right we should never waste time teaching you to dance..... ..man go take another ielts instead of wasting time here.......i can see from where you coming from...you must be having hard time in your life as you are not ready to listen to others and you can go beyond limits to defend your abnoxious cause . i can see how you challanged dr.hasib...your only motive here is to keep arguing with people and keep defending your lethargic logic.......an advice for you, this time must concentrate on reading part to get more than 5...... and for your information i got 8 in reading not 5.... :-*

and finally waiting for your reply as i am sure you will definitely hit back...... ;D..lmao......... ;D

dear azazaz,
it's "winendine's" application so it's his decision to make. i adviced him as a senior and experienced member as i realized he will get refused due to insufficient points which will cost him time and money. when i was a new applicant i was adviced by seniors and i believe, as i listened to them i got my VISA. i am always grateful to them who helped me initially
Now, it's totally up to winendine

 

[azazaz]

dear azazaz,
it's "winendine's" application so it's his decision to make. i adviced him as a senior and experienced member as i realized he will get refused due to insufficient points which will cost him time and money. when i was a new applicant i was adviced by seniors and i believe, as i listened to them i got my VISA. i am always grateful to them who helped me initially
Now, it's totally up to winendine

dear dr hasib., thats what i told him too that you were right but he is not ready to listen to you or me, he is also not respecting you, you are so much senior and experienced than him, and see how is he behaving on the forum....feel pity for him...

 

[amilatan]

@Dr.hasib,,@azazaz....can,we,pls,stop,replying,Winedine's.post,,,,becoz,,he,seems,tooo,qualified,,to,take,advices,from,us,,,,isnt,worth,at,all..
we,have,got,our,PR,thru,with,d,same,forum's,valuable,suggestions,.that's,d,only,reason,we,r,trying,to,help,others,as,well.but,members,like,Winedine,aren't,worth,of,it..

 

[azazaz]

@ Dr.hasib,, @ azazaz....can,we,pls,stop,replying,Winedine's.post,,,,becoz,,he,seems,tooo,qualified,,to,take,advices,from,us,,,,isnt,worth,at,all..
we,have,got,our,PR,thru,with,d,same,forum's,valuable,suggestions,.that's,d,only,reason,we,r,trying,to,help,others,as,well.but,members,like,Winedine,aren't,worth,of,it..

yes you right dear i am not replying to him any more. not wasting time..

 

[winendine]

:-X I think the education points is one of the most confusing issues and I am glad I had a consultant to help me with them. My case for example I was super nerd (sorry lack of a better word) and I completed in five years a Bachelors in Science, A masters in Science and a Masters in engineering from two of the top US universities (one was an ivy). So in my case for example, I would have never met the number of years but just because I was able to overload academically and anticipate the duration of my programs. CIC still gave me all 25 points for my education although I was only 23 at the time I had completed all of my education it didn't set any alerts or anything. So in the end what I am trying to say is that the number of "years" is not necessarily the driving factor credentials are also part of it.

Just sharing my case

Thebeast:

Yes, I have to agree to you even more. This education factor can create potential problems as its not clearly as defined. And the more I research on this topic, the more split the opinion gets. In India highly ranked MBA programs are called "Post Graduate Diplomas", and these Post Graduate Diplomas are highly ranked globally and equivalent to Masters degrees. The students are offered placements with multinationals before graduating. Moreover, these institutes are autonomous and are not governed by a large university. One has to complete a Bachelors with high GPA, top the entrance test, get through a series of interviews and group discussions for admission. I come from one of such schools.

I can understand the point made here in this thread by some experienced posters. I may not necessarily agree with them but I understand where they are coming from. If I were in a desperate situation I would leave no room for error and give my IELTS again for the 2 extra points. The night before the IELTS I was drunk and dancing with ladies (mujra-bar girls). I am not desperate to enter Canada, its just an option from many others, so I have decided to send my application as it. Rejection makes no difference; an approval will prove that a Post Graduate Diploma from a highly ranked school, after a Bachelors Degree, and totaling to 16 years of education is valid for 22 points.

 

[Dr.Hasib]

winendine,

This is my last response as I found you totally disrespectful to others.

In India highly ranked MBA programs are called "Post Graduate Diplomas", and these Post Graduate Diplomas are highly ranked globally and equivalent to Masters degrees....

-MBA is masters of business administration. So, it doesn't matter if it is called post graduate diploma or not since it's already a Masters degree


I can understand the point made here in this thread by some experienced posters. I may not necessarily agree with them but I understand where they are coming from.If I were in a desperate situation I would leave no room for error and give my IELTS again for the 2 extra points. The night before the IELTS I was drunk and dancing with ladies (mujra-bar girls).

-Are you questioning about our status? FYI, we all know you are applying as a chef/cook and it is considered as lower class job in your home country. And I don't believe that girls in your country even dance with cooks/chefs.

I am not desperate to enter Canada, its just an option from many others, so I have decided to send my application as it. Rejection makes no difference; an approval will prove that a Post Graduate Diploma from a highly ranked school, after a Bachelors Degree, and totaling to 16 years of education is valid for 22 points.

-ofcourse you are desperate. Otherwise you wont ask for others opinion in the first place. You are just too much ignorant to understand that a post graduate diploma can't be or equivalent to Masters. CIC will award 22 points if only an applicant has completed Masters degree or 3 years diploma. You don't have any of it. As per my understanding, you keep arguing because you already know you can never manage 16 points from IELTS and that's the bottom line.

Thebeast:

Yes, I have to agree to you even more. This education factor can create potential problems as its not clearly as defined. And the more I research on this topic, the more split the opinion gets. In India highly ranked MBA programs are called "Post Graduate Diplomas", and these Post Graduate Diplomas are highly ranked globally and equivalent to Masters degrees. The students are offered placements with multinationals before graduating. Moreover, these institutes are autonomous and are not governed by a large university. One has to complete a Bachelors with high GPA, top the entrance test, get through a series of interviews and group discussions for admission. I come from one of such schools.

I can understand the point made here in this thread by some experienced posters. I may not necessarily agree with them but I understand where they are coming from. If I were in a desperate situation I would leave no room for error and give my IELTS again for the 2 extra points. The night before the IELTS I was drunk and dancing with ladies (mujra-bar girls). I am not desperate to enter Canada, its just an option from many others, so I have decided to send my application as it. Rejection makes no difference; an approval will prove that a Post Graduate Diploma from a highly ranked school, after a Bachelors Degree, and totaling to 16 years of education is valid for 22 points.

 

[amilatan]

Thnx,Dr.Hasib,,,for,d,right,answer,,,to,Winedine's,,attitude..
(also,pls,mind,my,commas,,,,as,my,space-bar,isnt,working,,n,dont,have,patience,to,work,with,"virtual-keyboard).
hopefully,,this,should,be,d,last,post,for,winedine's,querries,

 

[winendine]

winendine,

This is my last response as I found you totally disrespectful to others.

In India highly ranked MBA programs are called "Post Graduate Diplomas", and these Post Graduate Diplomas are highly ranked globally and equivalent to Masters degrees....

-MBA is masters of business administration. So, it doesn't matter if it is called post graduate diploma or not since it's already a Masters degree


I can understand the point made here in this thread by some experienced posters. I may not necessarily agree with them but I understand where they are coming from.If I were in a desperate situation I would leave no room for error and give my IELTS again for the 2 extra points. The night before the IELTS I was drunk and dancing with ladies (mujra-bar girls).

-Are you questioning about our status? FYI, we all know you are applying as a chef/cook and it is considered as lower class job in your home country. And I don't believe that girls in your country even dance with cooks/chefs.

I am not desperate to enter Canada, its just an option from many others, so I have decided to send my application as it. Rejection makes no difference; an approval will prove that a Post Graduate Diploma from a highly ranked school, after a Bachelors Degree, and totaling to 16 years of education is valid for 22 points.

-ofcourse you are desperate. Otherwise you wont ask for others opinion in the first place. You are just too much ignorant to understand that a post graduate diploma can't be or equivalent to Masters. CIC will award 22 points if only an applicant has completed Masters degree or 3 years diploma. You don't have any of it. As per my understanding, you keep arguing because you already know you can never manage 16 points from IELTS and that's the bottom line.

Wow! Wow! Wow! Doctor ! Such a vibrant display of colors in your post, you take great pains in your posting, you'd be better of being a painter than a dentist. doctor Hasib. India needs painters like you, our immigration is open to you, no need of the point system here at our back yard. Dentist we have many, every second person is a engineer or a doctor.

Your wrong again as usual, ignorance is a trademark on your forehead doctor! Highly trained chefs at 5 stars in India make the same money as entry level engineers, its INDIA and not BANGLADESH !

And yes we dance and drink in the company of Bangla women brought fresh from the borders. Nothing new, your surprised? Well, don't be, come to India, I will offer you a free tour. You dont need to be a doctor or engineer to dance with a bar girl, your money talks and she walks.

Sorry to break your ice and expose you to reality, you maybe a self styled, self proclaimed immigration expert, but besides that you fall a little short of perfection.

NOW KEEP YOUR WORD AND DO NOT POST ANYMORE. IF YOU DO I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO REFRESH YOU WITH ANOTHER GUST OF REALITY!

Now, do what good dentists do. Make sure your hands does not shake during a tooth extraction and make sure you extract the right tooth.

Amilatan: By your posts you seem your sitting on Dr. Hasibs lap and typing. Be careful, do not bend to lift the soap in the bathroom, someone maybe right behind you.