I got judge hearing (any advise) + my case details and Timeline
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Yes, ECAs is the CIC website where you can see updates on your file. I know your hearing is today, so you probably have a lot more on your mind, but if at some point you can go online and see of the hearing shows up in your profile, I would really appreciate it.mwabu1976 said:
Best of luck today!
i think seeing a citizenship judge isnt a bad thing. as long as u get a chance to explain urself and show ur commitment to the country, they would approve you. Its not like an aged immigrant who cant speak a word of english.
Hi all,
The JH looked to me fine. The judge asked lots of questions and I answered all as much as I can. I even asked about things that I don't remember. For example, she asked me about a small details of how a tax of my family was calculated in 2009. I told her what I remember but I indicated that I did the tax by an accountant and am not sure about the details of how it was done.
Regarding my passports and issues being Jordanian with Palestinian origin. She asked about that and I did my best to explain this issue and supported my explanation with some resources and references.
My other proves seemed to me convincing. She used to ask some questions about them but I never felt that any question was a challenging question or a question that doubts the evidence that I gave her. Mostly was clarifications Q's.
My judge hearing took place at the judge office. I thought that I will be in a court room.
the Judge asked me to request a record of the medical card usage and forward it to her and she told me she will then tell me about the decision in 60 days.
The judge was not tough or easy .. she was normal asking lots of questions and writing lots of notes from my answers.
Overall, She was nice person.
I hope she will approve my case.
I would say that even someone obey the law but may end in trouble if he was not prepared to the JH or if was not really able to explain his evidence. The judge told me that she liked the way that I organized my evidence and documents which is may be a sign that my case may be approved.
After the JH. I would recommend:
1- keep track of your passports.
2- Obtain CBSA report.
3- obtain the history of your medical card usage.
4- Keep tracks of the addresses where you did you live. Recommended to have letters from landlord.
5- Provide evidence that you don't have ties where u used to live before immigrating to Canada (depending on the nature of ur case). In my case I got Cancel stamp in my UAE Work Visa.
6- Do your tax and keep the notice of assessment u receive.
7- Any work or study record is a good evidence.
8- documents related to Canadian Family member is needed. My wife is Canadian, the judge asked for Marriage certificate.
9- Keep track of all records such as utilities bills, phone bills, bank statements, Credit Cards and so on.
10- Don't throw away any documents. I got police tickets and I showed them to the judge. I showed the judge even my flight boarding cards. She examined such evidences. they supported my case.
I wrote this reply fast, I hope it is clear and useful ..
The JH looked to me fine. The judge asked lots of questions and I answered all as much as I can. I even asked about things that I don't remember. For example, she asked me about a small details of how a tax of my family was calculated in 2009. I told her what I remember but I indicated that I did the tax by an accountant and am not sure about the details of how it was done.
Regarding my passports and issues being Jordanian with Palestinian origin. She asked about that and I did my best to explain this issue and supported my explanation with some resources and references.
My other proves seemed to me convincing. She used to ask some questions about them but I never felt that any question was a challenging question or a question that doubts the evidence that I gave her. Mostly was clarifications Q's.
My judge hearing took place at the judge office. I thought that I will be in a court room.
the Judge asked me to request a record of the medical card usage and forward it to her and she told me she will then tell me about the decision in 60 days.
The judge was not tough or easy .. she was normal asking lots of questions and writing lots of notes from my answers.
Overall, She was nice person.
I hope she will approve my case.
I would say that even someone obey the law but may end in trouble if he was not prepared to the JH or if was not really able to explain his evidence. The judge told me that she liked the way that I organized my evidence and documents which is may be a sign that my case may be approved.
After the JH. I would recommend:
1- keep track of your passports.
2- Obtain CBSA report.
3- obtain the history of your medical card usage.
4- Keep tracks of the addresses where you did you live. Recommended to have letters from landlord.
5- Provide evidence that you don't have ties where u used to live before immigrating to Canada (depending on the nature of ur case). In my case I got Cancel stamp in my UAE Work Visa.
6- Do your tax and keep the notice of assessment u receive.
7- Any work or study record is a good evidence.
8- documents related to Canadian Family member is needed. My wife is Canadian, the judge asked for Marriage certificate.
9- Keep track of all records such as utilities bills, phone bills, bank statements, Credit Cards and so on.
10- Don't throw away any documents. I got police tickets and I showed them to the judge. I showed the judge even my flight boarding cards. She examined such evidences. they supported my case.
I wrote this reply fast, I hope it is clear and useful ..
About 50% of hearings end in refusal, so commitment to Canada or explanations are not necessarily enough.u4g5 said:
As u4g5 alludes to, language knowledge is a common reason for refusal, as is test failure, while refusals for residency are far less common. But please let's not fall into using the all-too-common anti-immigrant rhetoric ourselves. It's not helpful or fair to pass judgement on other immigrants who follow the rules. It is not against the rules to be an older immigrant. They are not less worthy. Many provide important care and support and wisdom to their children and grandchildren. Their presence in Canada allows their family members to be more productive and maintain employment without sacrificing family ties.
Also, as any number of Québec immigrants can attest (en français) there is nothing wrong with applicants who don't speak English. French is also an official language and 1/4 of Canada is Francophone. Even if an immigrant speaks limited English or French (which is a challenge many refugees face), younger and older applicants are exempted from the official languages requirement.
1st of all, congrats on completing your JH. It looks very positive and you have prepared more than you are asked for. I am sure your case will be approved.
but it bugs me that they requested a lots of documents to prove a simple fact that you have lived in the country for more than 1095 days. This will only take the government to install an entry/exist system to track PR's mobility. I dont like the fact she even asked for your medical card assuage and make you wait an extra 60 days. She should approve your case right away. hate these bureaucratic BS.
but anyway, you will attend a citizenship ceremony within a few months and finally obtain your canadian passport so you will be visa free in terms of traveling.
gd luck n congratz again
but it bugs me that they requested a lots of documents to prove a simple fact that you have lived in the country for more than 1095 days. This will only take the government to install an entry/exist system to track PR's mobility. I dont like the fact she even asked for your medical card assuage and make you wait an extra 60 days. She should approve your case right away. hate these bureaucratic BS.
but anyway, you will attend a citizenship ceremony within a few months and finally obtain your canadian passport so you will be visa free in terms of traveling.
gd luck n congratz again
Speaking of the tests and hearings, congratulations Eileen on your successful completion of citizenship testing. I would have not know if I didnt see your post in the other forum. nice to see much awaited, frustrated members see the light at the end of the tunnel.eileenf said:
All the best to you and I am sure you will get a positive reply 60 days from now. I had a question though. Did the CJ at all look at the RQ documents submitted with the RQ or you had to take all these documents with you at the CJ hearing. I mean you must have submitted all this when you submitted the RQ, still they wanted to see you get all this in the CJ hearing? Also did the CJ ask you about your work and other day to day activities.mwabu1976 said:
mwabu 1976,
Congrats on getting your date with the CJ (albeit all applicants would rather not have this but proceed straight to approval). On paper it sounds like the CJ was re-assured but you never know 100%. I think her asking just for the medical records billing from RAMQ and not much else is a positive sign. Did she review your passport stamps in any detail and discuss any declared absences? Did she focus in detail on you time before PR (gives an idea if the CJ has the KOO test in mind). She sounded thorough which is also positive.
Of course the CJ may approve but CIC can appeal the CJs decision so watch your mail box for any correspondence from CIC....in the meantime all the very best in getting the records required...hopefully Canada Day will find you a citizen of this wonderful country!
Congrats on getting your date with the CJ (albeit all applicants would rather not have this but proceed straight to approval). On paper it sounds like the CJ was re-assured but you never know 100%. I think her asking just for the medical records billing from RAMQ and not much else is a positive sign. Did she review your passport stamps in any detail and discuss any declared absences? Did she focus in detail on you time before PR (gives an idea if the CJ has the KOO test in mind). She sounded thorough which is also positive.
Of course the CJ may approve but CIC can appeal the CJs decision so watch your mail box for any correspondence from CIC....in the meantime all the very best in getting the records required...hopefully Canada Day will find you a citizen of this wonderful country!