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h3a3j6

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Great write-up! Thank you for taking the time to feed the information back!

Two things I will keep in mind from your experience:

- CIC and CJs are negatively biased.
- Just like Ambient said, I think it's time to make a lot of noise about this...
 

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mwabu1976 said:
In the First appeal, I did not ask for about the financial relief. I focused with my lawyer on winning the appeal.

I requested financial compensation in the second hearing. The judge did not allow it because my case was against the Minster of Immigration and Citizenship and CJ is considered as independent from his Ministry.


One of my motives to not give up was to record that the CIC has made mistakes. If I just accepted their decision and applied again then all the officers and CJ worked in my application will look as if they doing good job catching unqualified applicants. As a result, they will hurt more innocent people thinking that they are good qualified people doing their job which is not true. When CIC records shows my application is approved after it was rejected by some people wasting the resources of the CIC, then this is an indication that somebody is not doing his job right.
Hopefully the CIC learn from cases like mine. In fact, I have the names of the CJ and the officers worked with my application. Seems to me most of them not in charge any more.


I have no problem to get an RQ and give documents to prove that I'm not doing anything wrong. I have no problem to wait little more so they confirm things are good. But I have problem with having unqualified people making applicants wait for tooo long so they do stupid mistakes and decision that hurts innocents applicants. Off course the first to blame with this situation is mr. Stephen Harper and his government.
100% true CIC always hurt innocent applicants. From 2011 to 2015 every officer was behind citizenship applicants specially whoever have stamps from middle eastern countries. They were issuing RQ as a wholesale dealer and kept innocent peoples waiting for 4 years. As i said before also this dept doesn't need funds because their employees are lazy and not qualified, what they will do with money, they doesnt wants to spent time on file, if any little doubt they are throwing file in non routine routs or secondary review. CIC needs major overhauling.
 

foodie69

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heeradeepak said:
100% true CIC always hurt innocent applicants. From 2011 to 2015 every officer was behind citizenship applicants specially whoever have stamps from middle eastern countries. They were issuing RQ as a wholesale dealer and kept innocent peoples waiting for 4 years. As i said before also this dept doesn't need funds because their employees are lazy and not qualified, what they will do with money, they doesnt wants to spent time on file, if any little doubt they are throwing file in non routine routs or secondary review. CIC needs major overhauling.

Wow! Now that people enjoy freedom of speech, you are not holding back. I wonder if I was living in India or Pakistan how I would be treated.

Thanks to Canada, enjoy your freedom!
 

mwabu1976

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I tried to make my case public. I tried to contact CBC and The Globe & Mail newspaper. They did not contact me back. I think this topic is not interesting to them.

However, I will still go public and share my experience if I get the chance to do so.


In fact, I was so active in twitter against the backlog but stopped twitting when I started to follow my case at the Federal Court.


When I was active on Twitter, a journalist student contacted me and interviewed me. She published small part of the interview in a website below

http://humbernews.ca/sweeping-changes-to-the-citizenship-act-will-mean-tightened-requirements-longer-wait-times-for-applicants-and-harsher-punishments-for-fraudsters/
 

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Did you try to contact The Star ? They have special section on immigration https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration.html
 

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Did you try to contact The Star ? They have special section on immigration https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration.html
I was about to post that - Toronto Star is the one you, mwabu1976, need to contact.
The world needs to know about your case, please.
 

mwabu1976

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ambient2 said:
Did you try to contact The Star ? They have special section on immigration https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration.html
I did not contact them before.

I will contact them tomorrow.
 

CANADAPATRIOT

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mwabu1976 said:
Finally Canadian :D

I did my oath last Friday. It took almost 6 years to get my citizenship. My time line is below and I hope it give hope for all people that are waiting.

26-Dec-2006: I landed in Montreal. I became landed immigrant. Note: I used to live in Montreal from 1997 to 2003 as international student.
14-Sep-2010: I sent my application for citizenship. I traveled twice for a total of 143 days. As per the CIC calculator and after deducting the travel days I end with physical presence of 1214 days which make me eligible to apply for citizenship.
8-Dec-2010: I received acknowledgment letter for receipt of my application.
27-Oct-2011: I wrote the citizenship test at Montreal. I passed and got full mark.
21-Dec-2011: Request for Residency Questioner (RQ) was requested.
11-Jan-2012: I submitted Residency Questioner (RQ) with all supporting documents (Copy) to CIC Montreal office.
17-Mar-2014: I got scheduled for citizenship judge hearing at CIC Montreal office. The CJ rejected my application.
5-Dec-2014: I won my appeal at the Federal Court of Canada. My application was opened again.
10-Mar-2015: I got scheduled again for citizenship judge hearing at CIC Montreal office. The CJ rejected my application again.
3-Dec-2015: I won my appeal at the Federal Court of Canada for the second time. My application was opened again.
20-Apr-2016: I got contacted by CIC and told that my application will be approved and I will get my oath letter once all the security clearance are completed.
20-Jul-2016: Got oath letter.
5-Aug-2016: Completed my oath and got my citizenship.


Details of my case was discussed at the link below:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/i-got-judge-hearing-any-advise-my-case-details-and-timeline-t189387.0.html;msg2965374#msg2965374

Thanks for the help I got from other members in this forum and I hope others may find my experience helpful for them.
This is an example of sheer incompetence. People are shopping at Amazon, ebay and these websites come with various countries and domain names but that doesn't mean that applicant was there. bullShXit

So essentially if you are shopping from Walmart.com instead from walmart.ca, any stupid CJ will assume that you were sitting in United States instead of Canada. Horrible. These guys need training.

They wasted your 5 years under non-routine bullshiX. I don't think you should be happy. You lost at least 4 years worth of opportunity to work in US and elsewhere because they categorized you non routine and constantly keep rejecting your application. The application that should have been finalized in 1 or 2 year got over in 5 years it is a net loss of freedom to travel and income on TN visa for 3 years. Someone should sue for punitive damages.

are you from Muslim or from some very unwanted country
 

CANADAPATRIOT

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BTW which lawyer was it? So as we know who has experience fighting such cases.
It was less about lawyer it was victory of persistence. if lawyer was good, the first hearing would have resulted in favor.
 

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CANADAPATRIOT said:
if lawyer was good, the first hearing would have resulted in favor.
He said he used the same lawyer twice and won both times.
 

CANADAPATRIOT

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alphazip said:
He said he used the same lawyer twice and won both times.
CJ Interview in second time should have won. If lawyer is good then even CJ thinks twice before providing bullshit findings.
 

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CJ Interview in second time should have won. If lawyer is good then even CJ thinks twice before providing bullshit findings.
mwabu1976 wrote: "I only hired lawyer for the Federal Court."
 

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My god! Such as shit show. I can't believe that they are so anal so as to look into your credit card statements and that they are so stupid so as to not realize that you can shop online at a different country.

I can't decide if it's incompetence or malevolence.