Hong Kong timeline

[bambooc]

Any new movement is a good news. I believe your case will be approved soon.

Hi Bambooc,

My application status changed to IP last night...

But do not have a 3rd line says "we started processing your application on xxx date" ... :-[

 

[vanhk]

Any new movement is a good news. I believe your case will be approved soon.

I hope good news coming to all of us soon!!!

 

[jessiewil]

Can you input your timeline to the sheet? thank you!
I do not think it is necessary to request ATIP note now as it will take 30 days to process. And by the time you have your notes on hand, your case may be in process.
I have also contacted my member of parliament to inquire about my case. If I receive anything, I will share the information with you.

Added.
Hope you will get some helpful information from the MP and thanks in advance for sharing!
I'm thinking about requesting ATIP also because we are a same-sex case and we are actually expecting an interview. I was hoping that we could get a hint about their concerns for potential interview.

 

[ymserver]

My wife is the exact same situation. We got the exact same wording as your email, but they also SAID to include the RCMP check. Here is a copy and paste of my email.


She was never there in HK for more than 6 months since 18 as she was studying here. The longest she's been back was maybe about 4-5 months. We did the digital fingerprint at a third-party approved CIC police check vendor for RCMP and HK. HK instructions advise to do the digital finger print at approved police force, but I figured if CIC said the third-party is ok, and third-party advised they have process them before, we stayed with this vendor. We applied for a Certificate of No Conviction from HK , and courier the application to HK Police HQ. They require a bank draft of $210 HKD. Gave them about 2 weeks time, and I sent an email to HK Police HQ to request received confirmation, then printed the email that shows confirmation from HK Police HQ, and attached it to the rest of the information CIC requested, and couriered to CIC.

If they didn't say to do the RCMP check, then I think you don't have to.

One weird thing is, they never asked for up to date medical. My wife's medical is expired for sure. I wonder if I should get my wife to re-do the medical and send it....

Seems like they might be wrong as they don't communicate between different departments. They will request for it if it is required.

Hi tofuboi,

Thank you so much for sharing your experience, especially the fact that you had that exact same wording paragraph. Now I know what CIC wants from me, which is the HK police cert.

Just to clarify, when did you receive the requests? Since you said that you emailed HK police 2 weeks after they received your mailed application, I guess you got your request email before Aug 5th 2015?

In any case, did you simply quote your name or something when you emailed HK police for confirmation of receiving your application?
I wonder if I can email them to confirm after a few days of delivery.

You got the RCMP request now, does it mean that you did not submit one with the application? (just connecting the dots)

Did you wife's medical expire in Jan 2015? Perhaps they extended it?
I got my medical redo request in a separate email from the police cert request.


Also, since I already requested the RCMP crim record check, and even though most likely I don't need to provide it (as I did not get the RCMP crim record request paragraph), I will still forward it to CIC. Do you (or anyone) think that it is NOT ok to send CIC something extra?

 

[tofuboi]

Hi tofuboi,

Thank you so much for sharing your experience, especially the fact that you had that exact same wording paragraph. Now I know what CIC wants from me, which is the HK police cert.

Just to clarify, when did you receive the requests? Since you said that you emailed HK police 2 weeks after they received your mailed application, I guess you got your request email before Aug 5th 2015?

In any case, did you simply quote your name or something when you emailed HK police for confirmation of receiving your application?
I wonder if I can email them to confirm after a few days of delivery.

You got the RCMP request now, does it mean that you did not submit one with the application? (just connecting the dots)

Did you wife's medical expire in Jan 2015? Perhaps they extended it?
I got my medical redo request in a separate email from the police cert request.


Also, since I already requested the RCMP crim record check, and even though most likely I don't need to provide it (as I did not get the RCMP crim record request paragraph), I will still forward it to CIC. Do you (or anyone) think that it is NOT ok to send CIC something extra?

My request came July 7, got it all done by July 17-18, then emailed HK Police HQ on July 27 and got a reply July 29 indicating the application is received, and it is being processed.
CIC gave me a far due date to complete everything so I had lots of time.

The instructions on the HK Certificate advise to include a copy of request (in this case email) from the immigration authority requesting this. I printed the email CIC gave me, and highlighted the request, and sent it in with the HK cert application.

I did not include a RCMP check at the time when I submitted my application. There's nothing wrong with giving CIC the RCMP criminal check. You can provide it if you want.

 

[ymserver]

I did submit a paper finger prints one and another criminal record check that actually says there's no crimes found matches my name.

I had got them before I phoned CIC, by then I thought I had to submit the criminal record check of Canada, otherwise I wouldn't submit it because if they are not the type of criminal record check CIC wants if needed.

The paper finger prints one is a joke, it's just all my finger prints on a piece of paper, because the RCMP here has no clue what CIC wants........then it just didn't seem right so I went for a second time, paid second time for another kind of criminal record check and got the result actually shows the criminal history, is that CIC wants? I don't think so, they will ask you to get a digital finger prints if they want, does it help to attach it with my application? I don't know, but it has spent me about 70 CAD on getting both of them and the time to go back and forth, since there's no refund I'd better attach them with my application at least it makes me feel a bit better.

But seriously if I knew I don't have to, I won't, it's frustrating to dealt with the RCMP here......unless you can actually talk into RCMP for getting a digital fingerprints for sure and it will make you feel better to submit it with your application otherwise just let CIC do the work in my opinion.

So my understanding is that you submitted a paper fingerprints (a) and a criminal record search certificate (b) to CIC with your application. Has CIC requested you to submit any additional criminal record check so far?

I had similar confusion, and now I have a clear picture distinguishing the record checks:

(a) Paper fingerprints, obtained at a police station with a fingerprint identification unit:
It's basically a form certifying that your fingerprints and your name belong to the same person. Usually the police station would use RCMP's C216C form and perform an ink-rolling method to roll your fingerprints directly on their form.
This is NO related to criminal record check. However, for some applicants who are living in Canada, it is necessary to certify your fingerprints because you would forward this form and relevant application forms to Hong Kong police headquarter to apply for the Certificate of No Criminal Conviction (CNCC).

(b) Criminal Record Search Certificate (the name varies in different cities) obtained at a police station:
This is a certificate stating whether if any criminal record is linked to your name. It's a criminal record search based on your name. Usually some volunteer organizations and health care employers require this.

(c) RCMP Criminal Record Check, obtained at a RCMP/ police station with with a fingerprint identification unit:
This is a certificate stating whether if any criminal record is linked to your fingerprints, and perhaps your name too.
This is the one CIC wants, if you need to provide one.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/north-america/canada.asp
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/criminal-record-and-vulnerable-sector-checks

Not sure about other cities, but in Winnipeg, the fingerprinting fee of $60 includes two times of fingerprinting. I.e. One could obtain (a) and (c) with one fee.

 

[ymserver]

My request came July 7, got it all done by July 17-18, then emailed HK Police HQ on July 27 and got a reply July 29 indicating the application is received, and it is being processed.
CIC gave me a far due date to complete everything so I had lots of time.

The instructions on the HK Certificate advise to include a copy of request (in this case email) from the immigration authority requesting this. I printed the email CIC gave me, and highlighted the request, and sent it in with the HK cert application.

I did not include a RCMP check at the time when I submitted my application. There's nothing wrong with giving CIC the RCMP criminal check. You can provide it if you want.

I see! It's great that CIC gave you such a far due date! I got only a 4-week due date from CIC...

Yeah I printed the CIC email and attached it with the application to HK police too.

I see. Yeah sounds good!

 

[benitaagogo]

So my understanding is that you submitted a paper fingerprints (a) and a criminal record search certificate (b) to CIC with your application. Has CIC requested you to submit any additional criminal record check so far?

I had similar confusion, and now I have a clear picture distinguishing the record checks:

(a) Paper fingerprints, obtained at a police station with a fingerprint identification unit:
It's basically a form certifying that your fingerprints and your name belong to the same person. Usually the police station would use RCMP's C216C form and perform an ink-rolling method to roll your fingerprints directly on their form.
This is NO related to criminal record check. However, for some applicants who are living in Canada, it is necessary to certify your fingerprints because you would forward this form and relevant application forms to Hong Kong police headquarter to apply for the Certificate of No Criminal Conviction (CNCC).

Yes, it was C216C form, but I don't know this helps me on anything :/ I already submit my criminal record check from Taiwan, it may apply on the HK applicants, btw do you know how long does the criminal record valid for? From the date I got my Taiwanese one till I sent the application it's been about 5 months, I've heard two different saying about it, one is 3 months and the other is 6 months, I hope it's valid for 6 months....

(b) Criminal Record Search Certificate (the name varies in different cities) obtained at a police station:
This is a certificate stating whether if any criminal record is linked to your name. It's a criminal record search based on your name. Usually some volunteer organizations and health care employers require this.

Yes, that's the one I got as well but still think it's a waste of money if CIC does this on their own :'(

(c) RCMP Criminal Record Check, obtained at a RCMP/ police station with with a fingerprint identification unit:
This is a certificate stating whether if any criminal record is linked to your fingerprints, and perhaps your name too.
This is the one CIC wants, if you need to provide one.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/north-america/canada.asp
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/criminal-record-and-vulnerable-sector-checks

Not sure about other cities, but in Winnipeg, the fingerprinting fee of $60 includes two times of fingerprinting. I.e. One could obtain (a) and (c) with one fee.

I actually printed the pages on CIC when I went to RCMP, but I guess we were both didn't know what we were doing ..... lol

Did it mean I was half-way done? That after I got the (a) I should of request it to be digitized?

"The Canadian visa office will tell you if you need a Canadian criminal record check while your application is being processed. If the visa office asks you to complete a criminal record check, visit the RCMP website for instructions. You must bring:

A full electronic set of fingerprints on form C-216C taken by one of these accredited companies or police services

<<<which mine is only on paper that was why I went to RCMP for the second time and they told me to get (b)

I think I was charged 40-45ish (a) and 25-30ish (b)

Does the digital fingerprints can all be done at RCMP? Or we have to find accredited companies? If the applicant is living in Canada. I'm just curious and also for future reference but I hope I won't need it.

 

[jmo1968]

Jan applicant here and just got IP finally so for your information .

 

[benitaagogo]

Jan applicant here and just got IP finally so for your information .

omg omg finally 2015 applicants!!!!!!! congrats!!!!! You should update it on the spreadsheet!

 

[bukeluke]

Jan applicant here and just got IP finally so for your information .

You received any letter about requesting police cert?

 

[jmo1968]

No police cert request yet , but we already did that with AOR2 from HKVO

 

[ymserver]

No police cert request yet , but we already did that with AOR2 from HKVO

Does it mean you applied for the CNCC from HK police cert by showing them the AOR2 from HKVO? But I thought the AOR2 didnt specifically say that you are required to submit a CNCC from HK.

Did HK police accept the AOR2 as part of the CNCC application?

 

[ymserver]

Yes, it was C216C form, but I don't know this helps me on anything :/ I already submit my criminal record check from Taiwan, it may apply on the HK applicants, btw do you know how long does the criminal record valid for? From the date I got my Taiwanese one till I sent the application it's been about 5 months, I've heard two different saying about it, one is 3 months and the other is 6 months, I hope it's valid for 6 months....

So you got (a) and (b) (Criminal record search certificate based on your name, right?).
I am not sure how long is the Criminal record search certificate valid for. The RCMP Criminal Record Check (the one based on fingerprints) is valid for 3 months. People said as long as you submitted your application within the 3 months of obtaining that RCMP Criminal Record Check, then you would be fine.

In your case, since technically you have never submitted a RCMP Criminal Record Check (based on fingerprints), perhaps CIC will ask you for one later.

Yes, that's the one I got as well but still think it's a waste of money if CIC does this on their own :'(

I actually printed the pages on CIC when I went to RCMP, but I guess we were both didn't know what we were doing ..... lol

Did it mean I was half-way done? That after I got the (a) I should of request it to be digitized?

"The Canadian visa office will tell you if you need a Canadian criminal record check while your application is being processed. If the visa office asks you to complete a criminal record check, visit the RCMP website for instructions. You must bring:

A full electronic set of fingerprints on form C-216C taken by one of these accredited companies or police services

<<<which mine is only on paper that was why I went to RCMP for the second time and they told me to get (b)

I think I was charged 40-45ish (a) and 25-30ish (b)

How I was told by the RCMP was that: "digitized fingerprints" means that the police officer would take your fingerprints directly on a scanning device at their office (that would take 3 business days or less processing time). (By scanning the paper fingerprints (a) you obtained to get the same RCMP Certificate, that would take 22 weeks http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/processing-time-criminal-record-and-vulnerable-sector-checks)

Therefore, when CIC asks you to submit a RCMP Criminal Record Check, you should get (c) (perhaps you have to pay again...). The police officer would scan your fingerprints from your fingers at the office.

Does the digital fingerprints can all be done at RCMP? Or we have to find accredited companies? If the applicant is living in Canada. I'm just curious and also for future reference but I hope I won't need it.

Yes, and it's simpler to go to a RCMP office to do it because it's more reliable. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/locations
I did mine at a RCMP office (also a police station).

 

[bukeluke]

try this link:
https://secure.cic.gc.ca/enquiries-renseignements/case-cas-eng.aspx?mission=hong+kong&_ga=1.155120048.941831373.1425959445

good luck ;D

I just sent, see anything will receive coming weeks...