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dimples7881

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Jan 22, 2018
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I am sorry, I believe you can't have a co signer for a spousal sponsorship application. The system is made to avoid the newcomers to ever need to go into welfare. If that happened during the 3 years of the undertaking, you would have to pay it all back to the government. If CIC believes that it is likely that the sponsored person would go into welfare, they would always reject the app, whether it is at the sponsor approval stage or at later stages. If your husband has savings, a job, and can prove that he could easily get a job in Canada, that could help getting the sponsor approval, but you didn't submit such evidence or plan with your app, so again, it is likely to be refused.
Ok.. By co signer it says that family can help also. Clothes, food, and so on. I'm so lost.
 

JulianaAndrew

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Feb 14, 2017
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Bogota
App. Filed.......
26-07-2017
Doc's Request.
Schedule A and PCC: 01-09-2017
AOR Received.
AOR1: 01-09-2017, AOR2: 19-09-2017
File Transfer...
15-09-2017
Med's Request
02-01-2018
Med's Done....
23-01-2018
Interview........
06-12-2017 - Passed
Passport Req..
06-12-2017
VISA ISSUED...
05-03-2018
LANDED..........
10-03-2018
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Ok so what's worse case scenario I have been refused, then how do I get them to Canada? Re apply? And state a plan and documents showing what's happened? I can re apply with a lawyer can I not??
Yes, that is correct. You could re apply without a lawyer, they are quite expensive. If you get indeed refused as a sponsor, you should focus on proving that your husband won't need welfare, and that the five of you will be okay financially.
 

JulianaAndrew

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Doc's Request.
Schedule A and PCC: 01-09-2017
AOR Received.
AOR1: 01-09-2017, AOR2: 19-09-2017
File Transfer...
15-09-2017
Med's Request
02-01-2018
Med's Done....
23-01-2018
Interview........
06-12-2017 - Passed
Passport Req..
06-12-2017
VISA ISSUED...
05-03-2018
LANDED..........
10-03-2018
Ok.. By co signer it says that family can help also. Clothes, food, and so on. I'm so lost.
Yes, if you can get relatives to write letters or statements saying that they will support you with things, or even financially, that would help too. But that is not what a co signer means. A co signer would be a spouse, for example, co signing with his/her spouse for an application to sponsor parents, for example. In those cases, if one spouse doesn't meet LICO, the other one can co sign the app so they can meet LICO.
 

canuck_in_uk

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Yes, that can be an issue. You are saying you are getting roughly $3000 a month, and just to make sure, the papers you sent showed even less than that? That would be roughly $36k yearly. LICO (low income cut off) for 4 people in Canada (except Quebec) is $46,362 yearly. You are 10k short, so it is a problem. If you didn't provide any more evidence to show that you would be able to support your husband financially when he arrives in Canada, or that at least he would not have the need to go into welfare (showing savings or a plan for it), I would say that it is likely that you will not get sponsor approval. The very few cases I have seen that people take many months to hear anything about sponsor approval it is because they are refused as sponsors. I am not the most experienced member in the forum, but I believe that your income is an issue to sponsor your husband indeed. You would have needed to show a detailed plan, or explanations, and some evidence, that the four of you would be doing okay in Canada, financially speaking. If you are sponsoring your husband + your step daughter, then your family size would be 5, and in that case LICO would be $52,583, for 2018. For that one, you would be $16k off.
Sponsor approval depends only on ticking the boxes: no welfare, no bankruptcy, no defaulted child maintenance, no defaulted undertakings etc. Sponsor approval will not be refused unless one or more of those basic requirements is not met. It doesn't matter if a sponsor is low income, no income, etc. It is only about ticking the boxes.

If IRCC has issues with the app based on financial grounds, it will be seen later on in the application. It is at that point that IRCC will request further information/documents.
 

canuck_in_uk

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But when I called once again they said its nothing on my part they now have everything they need, and its not me that's holding up the file. They also mentioned to me at the Mississauga call centre that there's no negative comments or concerns, if this is the case why Dont they just send my approval to sponsor? .. I sponsored my ex husband, was with him for 12.5 years.
He's long a Canadian citizen some 7-8 Years now..
Then your app is in the queue waiting to be looked at. It went to the bottom of the pile when they had to request new forms from you.

You need to just wait. You can order your GCMS notes to see where your app is at.
 

JulianaAndrew

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Feb 14, 2017
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Category........
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Bogota
App. Filed.......
26-07-2017
Doc's Request.
Schedule A and PCC: 01-09-2017
AOR Received.
AOR1: 01-09-2017, AOR2: 19-09-2017
File Transfer...
15-09-2017
Med's Request
02-01-2018
Med's Done....
23-01-2018
Interview........
06-12-2017 - Passed
Passport Req..
06-12-2017
VISA ISSUED...
05-03-2018
LANDED..........
10-03-2018
Sponsor approval depends only on ticking the boxes: no welfare, no bankruptcy, no defaulted child maintenance, no defaulted undertakings etc. Sponsor approval will not be refused unless one or more of those basic requirements is not met. It doesn't matter if a sponsor is low income, no income, etc. It is only about ticking the boxes.

If IRCC has issues with the app based on financial grounds, it will be seen later on in the application. It is at that point that IRCC will request further information/documents.
Thanks for clarifying! They will have an opportunity then, as I'm sure it'll be at least mentioned by the VO. In my case, my wife was short for LICO at the time we submitted the app, even for just $500, it was a concern listed by the IO, but that was easy to overcome. At least if it becomes an issue in the future for the OP, she will know what to do. I'll delete the other posts as they contain misleading info, thanks!
 

dimples7881

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Jan 22, 2018
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Thanks for clarifying! They will have an opportunity then, as I'm sure it'll be at least mentioned by the VO. In my case, my wife was short for LICO at the time we submitted the app, even for just $500, it was a concern listed by the IO, but that was easy to overcome. At least if it becomes an issue in the future for the OP, she will know what to do. I'll delete the other posts as they contain misleading info, thanks!
Well that's what I thought, NO WHERE on the form was there guidelines to any amounts I had to make to be able to sponsor I've NEVER been in default if anything nor have charges nor been in jail. Neither my husband or I fail anything on the application to get a refusal, so were just concerned why its such a long wait, but when I call they said NOTHING negative has been commented by the officer what's so ever on our file. They are back logged the call centre said. I'm just wanting my approval so we can move forward.
 

dimples7881

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Jan 22, 2018
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Well that's what I thought, NO WHERE on the form was there guidelines to any amounts I had to make to be able to sponsor I've NEVER been in default if anything nor have charges nor been in jail. Neither my husband or I fail anything on the application to get a refusal, so were just concerned why its such a long wait, but when I call they said NOTHING negative has been commented by the officer what's so ever on our file. They are back logged the call centre said. I'm just wanting my approval so we can move forward.
They also said they can't refuse and send it back, that its in a stage now of I forget its PROCESSING that's what they said.. please I just want them home, my step daughter lost her mother on fathers day, she also got shot twice AMD she was 11 at the time, now 12. Police reports and therapist letter are also included stating best interests if child is to leave Jamaica. So I just wish they would try and hurry it along, or at least put our minds at ease were going to be all together that I got approved it was just because their back logged and so on. Pray for us please .
 
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dimples7881

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Jan 22, 2018
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Thanks for clarifying! They will have an opportunity then, as I'm sure it'll be at least mentioned by the VO. In my case, my wife was short for LICO at the time we submitted the app, even for just $500, it was a concern listed by the IO, but that was easy to overcome. At least if it becomes an issue in the future for the OP, she will know what to do. I'll delete the other posts as they contain misleading info, thanks!
V.O? Io? Op? Please do these mean?
 

MaryL

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Hi,
Ok here's the run down,
Oct 2,2017 application recieved. File number and UCI given.
November 16 & November 17 2017 received email requesting information. Recieved email confirmed they got it .Been calling in last note on DEC 6th 2017 on my application from Montreal office was everything was there it stated but STILL HAVE NOT RECIEVED ELIGIBILITY APPROVAL. Montreal office said for sponsor approval takes 3 months it can. Well its been 5?? Anyone know? Plus I passed all eligibility questionnaire, as to what it takes, plus I've already sponsored in the past. Everything is Ok in that part as well as to rules and things for previous sponsorship. So what should I do now?, and I'm on disability so I pass supporting my family. My question is will they return it if they can't verify something when there screening me to check my sponsor approval? Or will they ask for clarification? Keep in mine its been 5 months as of February 2, 2018. Worried and stressed.
It's been 4 mos. That and end of year is pretty busy.
 

dimples7881

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Jan 22, 2018
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It's been 4 mos. That and end of year is pretty busy.
Well I'm very shocked today I called the call centre, and OUR APPLICATION HAS ARRIVED IN MY HUSBANDS COUNTRY, EVEN THOUGH I DIDNT GET SPONSOR APPROVAL OR ANYTHING, But my question is would they send it to his country to Canadian embassy in Jamaica if they going to refuse it? After being with Mississauga for 5 months?? Is that something they do? As I never heard of them sending it off if they are refusing it or he's not able to come. I'm so thankful its here though, but I'm confused same way.
 

dimples7881

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Jan 22, 2018
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Well I'm very shocked today I called the call centre, and OUR APPLICATION HAS ARRIVED IN MY HUSBANDS COUNTRY, EVEN THOUGH I DIDNT GET SPONSOR APPROVAL OR ANYTHING, But my question is would they send it to his country to Canadian embassy in Jamaica if they going to refuse it? After being with Mississauga for 5 months?? Is that something they do? As I never heard of them sending it off if they are refusing it or he's not able to come. I'm so thankful its here though, but I'm confused same way.
Who does the final decision inside Canada or the embassy in his country?? You'd think it would have to be passed by a high person to or really it would be a waste if more time sending here instead if they were for any reason to refuse him of his visa it would be proper to send it back to me in Canada yes?? Anyone know what this means?? They recieved our application on Oct 2, 2017.
 

canuck_in_uk

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Well I'm very shocked today I called the call centre, and OUR APPLICATION HAS ARRIVED IN MY HUSBANDS COUNTRY, EVEN THOUGH I DIDNT GET SPONSOR APPROVAL OR ANYTHING, But my question is would they send it to his country to Canadian embassy in Jamaica if they going to refuse it? After being with Mississauga for 5 months?? Is that something they do? As I never heard of them sending it off if they are refusing it or he's not able to come. I'm so thankful its here though, but I'm confused same way.
It occasionally happens than a sponsor does not receive the SA message.

No one on here can tell you what is happening. As already told, you need to apply for GCMS notes. You can also ask your MP to inquire.