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H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,878
22,132
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
So much double standard by fucking Canada , treating Ukrainian refuges and us differently,
The visa granted to Ukrainians only allows them to come to Canada temporarily. It is not a PR program and it does not allow them to remain in Canada permanently. They also cannot apply for PR through the refugee program and have to qualify for PR through one of the economic immigration streams like Express Entry or PNP.
 

Muhammadtigerb

Star Member
Apr 14, 2022
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The visa granted to Ukrainians only allows them to come to Canada temporarily. It is not a PR program and it does not allow them to remain in Canada permanently. They also cannot apply for PR through the refugee program and have to qualify for PR through one of the economic immigration streams like Express Entry or PNP.
It’s same we don’t even get a temporary resident, they bring them from European countries , and their H&C fast process and successful, we are from war countries we don’t even get work permit, it’s double standard, member here talked about it before , folks there is no human right it’s just fucking joke , people who are legit and truthful always get refusal but people who lie and cheat with system get approval.
 

kaynn

Star Member
Jul 11, 2021
86
40
It’s same we don’t even get a temporary resident, they bring them from European countries , and their H&C fast process and successful, we are from war countries we don’t even get work permit, it’s double standard, member here talked about it before , folks there is no human right it’s just fucking joke , people who are legit and truthful always get refusal but people who lie and cheat with system get approval.
That’s true
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,878
22,132
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
It’s same we don’t even get a temporary resident, they bring them from European countries , and their H&C fast process and successful, we are from war countries we don’t even get work permit, it’s double standard, member here talked about it before , folks there is no human right it’s just fucking joke , people who are legit and truthful always get refusal but people who lie and cheat with system get approval.
This simply isn't true. If it was, that would mean everyone here who has been approved has lied and cheated, and that none of them are legit or truthful.

I feel like you probably won't take this advice, however focusing negative energy on other people isn't going to help you and will just stress you out more. Try to focus positive energy on your case and situation.

I wish you all the best and really hope you JD is successful. Good luck.
 

Jjla

Star Member
Nov 23, 2021
120
110
So much double standard by fucking Canada , treating Ukrainian refuges and us differently,
You should revise your case, get the notes and get more evidences from the comments.
You can apply for a second H&C.
I am agree with Scylla, you should not focus on other people, focus on how to build a better case.
All the best
 
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Muhammadtigerb

Star Member
Apr 14, 2022
99
46
No it's not your lawyer - IRCC knows because you plan to challenge their decision in court. If your case is granted permission to be deliberated in court, your officer will be invited to take the stand and respond to judge's questions.

If someone wants to challenge you in court, you would be among the first to find out. Same for IRCC.
If I win the case what will happen ? Will the discharge the officer or any penalty? Will the new officer also gonna refuse my case because immigration gonna support their own people .
 

Katayoon

Champion Member
Nov 19, 2011
1,631
2,004
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
If I win the case what will happen ? Will the discharge the officer or any penalty? Will the new officer also gonna refuse my case because immigration gonna support their own people .
If you win it will be sent to another officer for reconsideration who can either give AIP or refuse it. Unfortunately, there will be no penalty. This is why many of us recommend to go with new HC rather than JR. It is a very lengthy process. Around 1-2 years.
 

temmy-27

Star Member
Mar 5, 2022
111
44
If you win it will be sent to another officer for reconsideration who can either give AIP or refuse it. Unfortunately, there will be no penalty. This is why many of us recommend to go with new HC rather than JR. It is a very lengthy process. Around 1-2 years.
But if you have a deportation order which is the best to go for ?
 

SpiritualWonderWomen

Star Member
Mar 16, 2022
162
114
@Katayoon what does this mean my application is now IN PROCESS again in eCas, couple of days ago its DECISION MADE, also I called IRCC automatic its says “We are reviewing weather you meet the eligibility requirements”
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,878
22,132
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
If I win the case what will happen ? Will the discharge the officer or any penalty? Will the new officer also gonna refuse my case because immigration gonna support their own people .
There won't be any penalty to the officer and they won't discharge the original officer.

If you win JD, normally your file would be returned to a different officer for redetermination (not to the same officer).