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rjessome

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steaky said:
Regardless the status of this person, he/she doesn't have to be living in Canada in order to make contribution. As long as this person files and pay his taxes owed to Canada Revenue Agency, he is contributing to Canada.
Non-resident Canadians who don't own a home here do not have to pay taxes if they live in Canada for less than 183 days in a tax year.

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/nnrsdnts/ndvdls/nnrs-eng.html
 

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Non-resident Canadians who don't own a home here do not have to pay taxes if they live in Canada for less than 183 days in a tax year.

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/nnrsdnts/ndvdls/nnrs-eng.html
Any non resident person who owns a rental property (receiving income) and other royalties in Canada, pay non resident tax. For more info, read the above website.
 
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Alabaman said:
I think you are the one missing the point. People immigrate for different reasons - economic, family, wars, weather etc. Thesame reasons that make people come to Canada is the same reasons that make people go back. If you read the original post by aysi, he wanted to go back home for a year because he has FAMILY PROBLEMS. What's wrong with that??

Myself I came to Canada for economic reasons but that does not mean that I am completely going to forget where I came from. If I so wish, I can decide one day I don't want to live in Canada any more and I want to go back to my home country. What is wrong with that?? I might even decide I don't want to go back to my home country and that I want to go somewhere else... say Australia... for God's sake what is wrong with that?? It's my choice, it is your choice where we all decide to stay at certain times of our lives (AS LONG AS WE DOING IT LEGALLY AND ARE NOT BREAKING THE LAW).

CIC does not have any rules checking motives... unless you are a PR. and that is understandable because the the word says PERMANENT resident so you ought to be permanently here. However, if you meet obligations to be a citizen, CIC CAN NEVER and would NEVER deny you of getting your citizenship. It is the law and Canada is a country of laws. If you don't like the way the law is currently, then try to change it.
First of all, relax with the capitalization - it's shouting in net-etiquette and even if you don't like my views, there are ways to express your opinions.
I have no idea where you make your assumptions but:
1. I never said citizens can not choose where they want to live (read what I wrote). We are talking about PRs...
2. Immigrants do need to demonstrate "relationship" with new country
3. Nothing wrong with having family issues - however CIC checks the PR life’s center. Nothing's wrong with that either.

RQ and judge - are the exact means to evaluate one's relationship to new country.

Wish you luck wherever you choose to live!
 

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First of all, relax with the capitalization - it's shouting in net-etiquette and even if you don't like my views, there are ways to express your opinions.
I have no idea where you make your assumptions but:
1. I never said citizens can not choose where they want to live (read what I wrote). We are talking about PRs...
Now it is bad to capitalize? You have forgotten that you were the first person to capitalize on this thread? LOL. This was your very first post on this thread and I quote you below: See the word "exactly"? So you were shouting at the poor guy that asked a question?? Anyways, my capitalization didn't mean shouting, it rather was an emphasis on doing things according to the law because I don't support people breaking the law.

Now you also say it is about PR and not Citizenship? Please see your quote below again. That was your first post. Besides isnt this a citizenship thread??

amirchov said:
Unfortunately, this is EXACTLY what the immigration office is trying to prevent - scenarios where people get the citizenship and leave to their home country. If you can leave Canada for a year, that means your life-center is not in Canada (work, apartment, family and so on).
So you are walking a tight rope here... consult an immigration specialist...


amirchov said:
2. Immigrants do need to demonstrate "relationship" with new country
3. Nothing wrong with having family issues - however CIC checks the PR life's center. Nothing's wrong with that either.
??? Dont even understand what you are trying to say here. CIC checks the PR life's center?? What does that even mean?


amirchov said:
RQ and judge - are the exact means to evaluate one's relationship to new country.
RQs and Judges are there to ensure that you obeyed the law. that is you fulfilled your residency obligation according to the law. That is why it is called residency questionnaire. As long as you meet the required number of days and you can prove it, nobody can deny you citizenship based on the fact that you want to move to another country. If you can show me someone that have been denied citizenship for this reason I will give you $1m... lol.
 

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CIC does check a Canadian citizen who is residing exclusively outside Canada sponsoring a spouse, his/her intention to move back to Canada once the sponsored person get the PR visa. At the request of CIC, the Canadian citizen must provide proof of his/her intention such as job and housing arrangement.
Yes Steaky, this is checked because of the would-be PR (that is the spouse being sponsored) and not because of the Citizen. In principle and as the name suggests, a permanent resident ought to be permanently in Canada.
 
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amirchov

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Now it is bad to capitalize? You have forgotten that you were the first person to capitalize on this thread? LOL. This was your very first post on this thread and I quote you below: See the word "exactly"? So you were shouting at the poor guy that asked a question?? Anyways, my capitalization didn't mean shouting, it rather was an emphasis on doing things according to the law because I don't support people breaking the law.

Now you also say it is about PR and not Citizenship? Please see your quote below again. That was your first post. Besides isnt this a citizenship thread??



??? Dont even understand what you are trying to say here. CIC checks the PR life's center?? What does that even mean?


RQs and Judges are there to ensure that you obeyed the law. that is you fulfilled your residency obligation according to the law. That is why it is called residency questionnaire. As long as you meet the required number of days and you can prove it, nobody can deny you citizenship based on the fact that you want to move to another country. If you can show me someone that have been denied citizenship for this reason I will give you $1m... lol.
I can see why you moved here for economical reasons: you are betting large amounts of money :) lol

Nothing personal dude, I really don't want to argue with you - just making a point here that <b>in my opinion</b> immigrating to Canada just to get a passport and then leaving, is exploiting the system. You can disagree and I might be even wrong - but this is my opinion.

Regarding the citizenship process (PRs who apply for citizenship): check CIT manuals (I can't post links) - it illustrates the special cases in which RQ and citizenship judges are involved and they check (among other things):
"What is the quality of the connection with Canada: is it more substantial than that which exists with any other country?" (Page 14)

The prerequisite of 1095 days is not enough - that's why people have an interview and during the interview (even in mine) questions are asked to establish the "link" to Canada.
 

aysi

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No..for oath he doesn't need to come...during our test examiner declared that if you are gonna travel after test and before oath don't delay it for oath coz we can reschedule your oath but if you miss your trip after it takes time to get your card...this is what i heared from her..but i think you have to give exam first rather than oath if you r gonna stay there atleast a year...hoe come oath come first than test,,,so we should discuss about his test first..your test come after a year when did you apply if you just apply then don't worry...even during your stay if you find your test date , inform them by email to consulate they will forward your email then they will reschedule....don't worry...but a year,,,cross your finger that you will get only one or two invitation of your test during it..
Thanks for ur reply , you r right I didn't gave test yet,but already applied for more then 2 years .actually they call me for the test but on the same week I moved Ontario and transfer my file here ,now it's almost a year, waiting for test ....,and one thing more I applied for renew pr card but didn't get it yet and going back home at the end of this month , thanks for ur reply once again , need advice , actually my kids and husband is Canadian born,only i was waiting for my process.
 
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amirchov

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Aysi - first of all - hope everything turns out well back home!

If you are leaving with your husband (Canadian) then you will retain your PR status as time spent with Canadian spouse is equivalent to time spent in Canada. If you leave without your PR card, or with an expired PR card, you will not be able to come back into Canada without a Traveling Document (you can apply at the Canadian Embassy at your home country). The replacement PR card you are waiting for (if not ready before you leave), will be held for 180 days at the local CIC office and it cannot be picked-up by anyone but yourself.

I would really suggest contacting an immigration consultant. They know the law to the letter and can assist you more professionaly as they have vast experience with many different cases.

Good luck!
 

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It is an interesting question: why does Canada expect a permanent resident to live in Canada (although there are a few dispensations), while allowing a citizen (even where he/she was a former permanent resident) to live wherever he or she wants?

But those are the facts of the matter, and no amount of squabbling (as we see in this thread) will change this.

I believe that a person should have free rein to move to another country and reside there permanently -- as long as he/she will not become a financial drain on that new country. But that is my personal opinion, and is certainly not the view of other countries, who require me to get a visitor’s visa, or give me a visa at the border but require me to leave every 90 days, etc etc.

It is perhaps beyond the scope of this thread or even this forum, but I wonder whether we human beings are heading backwards to the days when inter-country travel was rare, as border controls get stiffer, and as travel becomes much more expensive because oil is running out.
 

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What's the whole point of immigration process, if you go back to your own country? what kind of immigration is this? All you do is exploit the benefits and do not contribute to Canada. During the Lebanon war, Canada had to rescue many "Canadians" living in Lebanon (basically, people who went through immigration process, got a passport, and went back to live in Lebanon). This cost us (the tax payers) $94M.

This person is not a natural born Canadian, and therefore he needs to demonstarte that his life-center is in Canada. This is reality in immigration process all over the world. Being a citizen is more than just owning a passport. It's about contributing to Canada and being an integral part of it.
Amirchov,

And who told you that those Lebanese there are not contributing to Canada? they are at least not sitting here on Welfare and went there to earn better living if they were not able to do it here.. I have lots of Lebanese friends and I know exactly why they leave.. also I do know that in any country, the first wave of immigrants is not counted, but their 2nd generation that feels more being the citizen of that country.

I bet you half of those Lebanese who left stayed in Canada and most of them had the means to buy a ticket back, however due to the blockade the only way to leave their country was thru the Canadian relief convoys.

So kindly do not be subjective .. this is what Canada taught us.. we are 100% free and no one can dict rules beyond the law..

Besides the Citizenship law was amended after that in order to make sure in a way that generations preserve the link to Canada..
 

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aysi said:
Hi, I need some one help about my citizenship process ,I'm waiting for my test ,everything was ok.but now going back home at the end of this month ,and stay there for more then a year .having some family Problem, can anybody tell me ,my all citizenship process will close or they'll wait for my coming back . Please need ur adviSe.... Thanks
my opinion is that you should wait until you become a citizen then return home.