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GCMS shows 'PNP Secure Outstanding' and waiting - get together here!!!

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ks164 said:
Well, I might be an anomaly here. its been 1 year since AOR. PNP inland
What exactly both GCMS notes say regarding group for you? Like mine and Matt's is:
Category: PV2
Sub Category: blank
Group Name: PNP Secure Outstanding
Group #: 2-L7QTRYG
 

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andremarques19751 said:
What exactly both GCMS notes say regarding group for you? Like mine and Matt's is:
Category: PV2
Sub Category: blank
Group Name: PNP Secure Outstanding
Group #: 2-L7QTRYG
Same with me, except I'm closer to 1 year processing time than to 6 months as per IRCC. AOR June 27 :-X
 

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And no much help of MP with that. If there is security ongoing, they won't close your file until they get all the answers they're waiting for, even if it takes 2 years. There is no deadline for security questions.
 

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Found it! On my GCMS I have:

Category: PV2
Sub Category: blank
Group Name: blank
Group #: blank

Should I be worried? Does PV2 imply "PNP Secure Outstanding"?
 

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g126 said:
Found it! On my GCMS I have:

Category: PV2
Sub Category: blank
Group Name: blank
Group #: blank

Should I be worried? Does PV2 imply "PNP Secure Outstanding"?
It does not, you are not on the secure outstanding group.
 

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Has anyone heard of "Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration"?
I just wrote to them asking for guidance on course of action about applications that are taking longer than expected.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/Committees/en/CIMM
"The Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration studies matters related to immigration and citizenship. It has oversight of Citizenship and Immigration Canada and the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada, and monitors federal multiculturalism policy."

Also found this interesting member of parliament web page:
http://aehsassi.liberal.ca/mp-service/citizenship-immigration/
 

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andremarques19751 said:
It does not, you are not on the secure outstanding group.
Thank you!
 

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andremarques19751 said:
Has anyone heard of "Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration"?
I just wrote to them asking for guidance on course of action about applications that are taking longer than expected.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/Committees/en/CIMM
"The Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration studies matters related to immigration and citizenship. It has oversight of Citizenship and Immigration Canada and the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada, and monitors federal multiculturalism policy."

Also found this interesting member of parliament web page:
http://aehsassi.liberal.ca/mp-service/citizenship-immigration/
Thank you bro for the information, I'm not sure how useful it would be to contact them but worth a shot I guess. Anyways I can see some people from the group (PNP Secure outstanding) who've been waiting for almost a year, this is so disheartening. My work permit is expiring in June 2017 and it's been a month since I applied for BOWP. Hope to get some good news soon, this waiting period is excruciating.


AOR - Aug 2016
PNP Inland
 

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andremarques19751 said:
Has anyone heard of "Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration"?
I just wrote to them asking for guidance on course of action about applications that are taking longer than expected.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/Committees/en/CIMM
"The Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration studies matters related to immigration and citizenship. It has oversight of Citizenship and Immigration Canada and the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada, and monitors federal multiculturalism policy."

Also found this interesting member of parliament web page:
http://aehsassi.liberal.ca/mp-service/citizenship-immigration/
Recently I read some notices of Committee's meetings, they proposed some changes to IRCC, regarding process transparency too, making GCMS notes available to applicants in real time... I was also thinking of contacting them since I don't see any reason for such a long delay. My spouse's security is ongoing since September 2016. everything else passed
 

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Blanka said:
Same with me, except I'm closer to 1 year processing time than to 6 months as per IRCC. AOR June 27 :-X
Hey Blanka, they say your wife security check is being processed by an external party, right?
Did they say your security is completed? Did they ever told you which 3rd party is doing this check?
Thanks!
 

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What's your country of origin buddy?
Country of Origin is India for both of us.
My spouse worked for military, not as a soldier but a researcher. So it was essentially govt. but she has also been in Canada for last 4 years doing her masters and now PhD.
I have also been in Canada for last 1.5 yrs.
Well, it was secure outstanding earlier, so I thought they might need info from province, which they have at this stage and we are waiting security . That may be another explanation.

I feel the secure outstanding has nothing to do with longer time required but the background definitely does.
 

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andremarques19751 said:
What exactly both GCMS notes say regarding group for you? Like mine and Matt's is:
Category: PV2
Sub Category: blank
Group Name: PNP Secure Outstanding
Group #: 2-L7QTRYG

My first GCMS notes in Sep 2016, 6 months after AOR had exactly same
the second notes in March 2017, 11 months after AOR is
Category: PV2
Sub Category: blank
Group Name: PNP
Group #: 2-L7QTRYG
 

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ks164 said:
My first GCMS notes in Sep 2016, 6 months after AOR had exactly same
the second notes in March 2017, 11 months after AOR is
Category: PV2
Sub Category: blank
Group Name: PNP
Group #: 2-L7QTRYG
I guess security is completed, I would call them to ask that specific question or order another GCMS notes now.
 

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I guess security is completed, I would call them to ask that specific question or order another GCMS notes now.
Well, my wife calls them on a weekly basis. Just yesterday we got a response that security is still in process and they dont have a timeline.
We have even asked specific questions about whose security is in progress, where they have said both of ours. we asked about the authority doing the security and we didnt get a satisfactory reply. Guess we havent been lucky with the Call center agent till now. But we will keep doing it.

Our GCMS is also blank about security updates and we have a lot of redacted officer notes in the last pages.
 

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Guys,
I found this info about security screening and thought it might be interesting for you guys, too. It explains some details that I did not know before reading this text.
Best,
Matt
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shibuya said:
Nature of CSIS Advice to CIC

The Service's security screening assessments are provided as advice to
CIC in one of four forms:

No Reportable Trace (NRT)-a report given to CIC when the Service has no
adverse information on the immigration applicant.

Inadmissible Brief-advice provided when the Service has concluded, based
on information available to it, that the applicant meets the criteria
outlined in the security provisions of the Immigration and Refugee
Protection Act.

Information Brief-advice provided by CSIS that it has information that
the applicant is or was involved in activities as described in the
security provisions of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, but
that it is of the opinion that the applicant does not fall into the
class of persons deemed to be inadmissible under the Act.

Incidental Letter-provided to CIC when the Service has information that
the applicant is or was involved in non-security-related activities
described in the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (for example,
war crimes or organized criminal activity) or any other matter of
relevance to the performance of duty by the Minister of Citizenship and
Immigration, as set out in section 14( b) of the CSIS Act.

Immigration Security Screening Programs

Under the authority of sections 14 and 15 of the CSIS Act, the Service
conducts security screening investigations and provides advice to the
Minister of Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC). Generally
speaking, the Service's assistance takes the form of information-
sharing on matters concerning threats to the security of Canada as
defined in section 2 of the CSIS Act and the form of "assessments" with
respect to the inadmissibility classes of the Immigration and Refugee
Protection Act.

Immigration requests for security screening resulted in 445 briefs from
CSIS to CIC-242 information briefs and 203 inadmissible briefs. Of those
requests, the median time required for a "no reportable trace" (NRT) was
57 days, for an information brief 400 days and for an inadmissible brief
461 days. For the year previous, the median figures were 55 days, 401
days and 498 days, respectively.

Unlike previous years, the Service reported on citizenship applications
as a separate category. An information brief with respect to a
citizenship application took a median time of 129 days.

Applications for Permanent Residence from Within Canada

The Service has the sole responsibility for screening immigrants and
refugees who apply for permanent residence status from within Canada. In
2008-2009 the Service received 33, 837 such screening requests. Of these
requests, 21, 950 were immigration applications and 11, 887 came through
the Refugee Determination Program.

According to the statistical information provided by the Service, the
time required for the Service to issue a recommendation on an
immigration application varies considerably depending on how the
application was filed. Those applications filed using the Electronic
Data Exchange from within Canada took a median of 45 days, and
electronic filings within the Refugee Determination Program took 55
days. For those applications filed on paper, the median turnaround time
for immigration applications from within Canada was 70 days; for
applications from the U. S. it was 150 days, and for paper applications
from within the Refugee Determination program 94 days.

Application for Permanent Residence from Outside Canada

Immigration and refugee applications for permanent residence that
originate outside Canada or the United States are managed by the
Overseas Immigrant Screening Program under which the Service shares
responsibility for security screening with CIC officials based abroad.
Generally, CSIS only becomes involved in the screening process either
upon being requested to do so by the Immigration Program Manager or upon
receiving adverse information about a case from established sources.
CSIS reports that this division of labour allows the Service to
concentrate on higher-risk cases.

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