GCMS NOTES WELL EXPLAINED HAS NEVER BEFORE UNTIL NOW

[TANMEX]

I am not taking any side actually. But to be honest, I am not sure what any of this has to do with Family Sponsorship questions or GCMS notes.

The delay of GCMS notes caused by Immigration and ATIP officers that are overseen by Mr. Trudeau .

 

[profiler]

The delay of GCMS notes caused by Immigration and ATIP officers that are overseen by Mr. Trudeau .

That's actually not true. Though he would bear responsibility for fall-out across his government, he isn't overseeing any of the operations in Immigration.

The privacy custodians at IRCC have enough work to do, trying to keep up with the requests. Consider this: The custodians have to parse hundreds of pages of notes per request to redact any information protected under AtI or PA. Now, take a reasonable rate like 10,000 per month. How would you fair?

Cut them a break. After all, they could just not permit access to them at all....

 

[JJ628]

The delay of GCMS notes caused by Immigration and ATIP officers that are overseen by Mr. Trudeau .

I don't know if this is true or not, the only thing I can assure about Bogota VO is that this year most cases have been processed very fast.
Bogota VO usually takes a year to send out PPR and a couple of us have only waited for it an average of 7 months.

 

[ImABule]

Cut them a break. After all, they could just not permit access to them at all....

No, they can't and by law they are required to respond within 30 days. It does not matter how many requests they receive.

 

[profiler]

No, they can't.

Sure they could -- the federal government could decide to revoke the portion of acts that ATIP implements. Not that I am at all saying they would, but certainly it's possible to do.

More to the point, people shouldn't complain when they can get access to the notes. More patience is required.

 

[TANMEX]

I don't know if this is true or not, the only thing I can assure about Bogota VO is that this year most cases have been processed very fast.
Bogota VO usually takes a year to send out PPR and a couple of us have only waited for it an average of 7 months.

Of course you don't know if that is true . no one knows , only here in the forum where you hear the actual people frustrated by the very long unjustified processing time .

few fast application here and there , but the rest remained the same or worsened .

 

[TANMEX]

Sure they could -- the federal government could decide to revoke the portion of acts that ATIP implements. Not that I am at all saying they would, but certainly it's possible to do.

More to the point, people shouldn't complain when they can get access to the notes. More patience is required.

NO THEY CAN'T , and the Govt is no doing us a favor . it's their legal obligations to show us how they handle people's business .

 

[profiler]

NO THEY CAN'T , and the Govt is no doing us a favor . it's their legal obligations to show us how they handle people's business .

You're saying the federal government, MP's and Senators cannot revoke a law?

 

[TANMEX]

You're saying the federal government, MP's and Senators cannot revoke a law?

basic rights cannot be revoked . MPs make laws to make people live's easier not harder .

 

[profiler]

basic rights cannot be revoked . MPs make laws to make people live's easier not harder .

Heh. That's not a basic right. Anyways..

 

[ImABule]

You're saying the federal government, MP's and Senators cannot revoke a law?

They would need to scrap the ENTIRE ATIP act, which would not go over very well...

More to the point, people shouldn't complain when they can get access to the notes. More patience is required.

More patience isn't required, they have 30 days. That's the law. If they can't keep up with requests they should hire more people. It is completely unreasonable to expect people to wait beyond the deadline for their ATIP files.

 

[Shantaveli]

GCMS notes are not basic rights, they are a kind of courtesy. The government has no obligations to release confidential information.
If you think Canadian government is pain in the .... look around the rest of the world.
And that being said I think it's ridiculous people to request notes when they even haven't got SA.

 

[TANMEX]

Heh. That's not a basic right. Anyways..

Of yes it is , right to access of information keep the government accountable and not to do things behind closed doors and no body knows .

can you explain why Security and Criminality is Big and time consuming for PR applicants and it's not a concerns for Visitor Visa Applicants ?

is the Government telling us they can check TRV applicant's criminality and security in record time and they can't do it for PR applicants ?

or Only PR applicants pause a risk to Canada ?

 

[ImABule]

GCMS notes are not basic rights, they are a kind of courtesy. The government has no obligations to release confidential information.
If you think Canadian government is pain in the .... look around the rest of the world.
And that being said I think it's ridiculous people to request notes when they even haven't got SA.

Wrong.

It is a basic human right.

http://www.unesco.org/new/en/communication-and-information/freedom-of-expression/freedom-of-information/

 

[profiler]

They would need to scrap the ENTIRE ATIP act, which would not go over very well...

More patience isn't required, they have 30 days. That's the law. If they can't keep up with requests they should hire more people. It is completely unreasonable to expect people to wait beyond the deadline for their ATIP files.

It turns out I am currently involved in some privacy act revision requests -- I can tell you that my research along the way has pointed to the Privacy Commission is looking at reducing vexatious and frivolous requests. This means they are actually looking at reworking the Privacy Act (and therefore ATIP). But don't take my word for it, do the research yourself and see!

Sometimes a little patience goes a long way -- and irritating the government when they are doing their best to service your request is one way to make sure they revise the Privacy Act and ATIP in the wrong direction.

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