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It will be WORSE!

Now if they go public with evidence after say few weeks or a month, it will be a totally unreliable. Because now Canadian investigation agencies are going to be biased and in a conflict of interest position. By saying that "India is not involved" they will be implictly saying "Our PM is a Pre-Mature ejaculator and we are not a serious nation". Can you do a honest investigation in such odds?

He has put too much skin of Canada and its agencies in this investigation. You never want your police to have too much skin in its investigation. When police itself becomes an aggrieved party, who will do the investigation? This is now no longer an investigation in a crime but (obviously) a question of national pride.

He just torpedo the entire darned case. He just did a massive dis-service to police and the Nijjar's family.

All because of a certain political party's image in the public.

PS : Ejaculation also means to speak suddenly. (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ejaculate).
As Mark Twain said: "Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt" Trudeau has done the latter
 

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From the time I wasted looking into this, even if they have solid evidence, they wouldn't be able to reveal it publicly without compromising their intelligence sharing techniques and or sources or that of the US. Plus none of this is usable in court. So essentially Trudeau fucked himself and is saying trust me bro
I have a different perspective to this. The guy that got shot, is he a good guy? Absolutely not. He betrayed his own country, cheated his way to Canada, and got Canadian citizenship. Did India have the right to execute him? Nope, but he would have been killed had he been in India where law can be bought by money. But India allegedly killed him on a foreign soil. If India gets away, then there will be another murder by India. If there is solid evidence, G7 will not stay quiet and will question India. All the talks about investigation bias will mean nothing when the heat is on India. But, if there is no evidence, then JT truly fked Canada and more importantly his political future.
 
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All the talks about investigation bias will mean nothing when the heat is on India. But, if there is no evidence, then JT truly fked Canada and more importantly his political future.
Here is the thing. Entire G7 knows which side of the bread butter is. They are working with India for their own interests. If the bias gives them a fig leaf to avoid taking action against India, they will.

You need a proof? UK is still going on with their trade talk. They might ask for some kind of concessions from India. US is still going ahead with military relationship with India. Australia is just waiting and watching. Rest of G7 do not give a damn about Canada. Japan has no reason unless US is involved. France again same thing. Germany same thing.

The only wild card is Italy and I am most afraid of Italy... I just hope a Modi - Meloni sex tape does not come out of no where. The way these two look at each other is .... troubling to say the least. And Italians have a habit of finding way into Indian politician's heart. Lord have mercy!
 
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Here is the thing. Entire G7 knows which side of the bread butter is. They are working with India for their own interests. If the bias gives them a fig leaf to avoid taking action against India, they will.

You need a proof? UK is still going on with their trade talk. They might ask for some kind of concessions from India. US is still going ahead with military relationship with India. Australia is just waiting and watching. Rest of G7 do not give a damn about Canada. Japan has no reason unless US is involved. France again same thing. Germany same thing.

The only wild card is Italy and I am most afraid of Italy... I just hope a Modi - Meloni sex tape does not come out of no where. The way these two look at each other is .... troubling to say the least. And Italians have a habit of finding way into Indian politician's heart. Lord have mercy!
Lol. The implications of this are extremely serious. It would send a message to the west that Indian spy agencies are willing to conduct clandestine operations on foreign soil. The Americans would consider that an open threat and would counter that with their own covert operations. Americans don’t give a crap about anything apart from their own interests and Canada doesn’t really give a fuck about its relationship with any country apart from the US. It stands nothing to lose if its relationship with India collapses. It barely does any trade with India. If Indians stop coming to Canada, the government would open the doors to other nationalities in order to fulfill their immigration quotas. Before 2015, Indian immigrants made up less than 20 % of all new immigrants to Canada.
 

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I have a different perspective to this. The guy that got shot, is he a good guy? Absolutely not. He betrayed his own country, cheated his way to Canada, and got Canadian citizenship. Did India have the right to execute him? Nope, but he would have been killed had he been in India where law can be bought by money. But India allegedly killed him on a foreign soil. If India gets away, then there will be another murder by India. If there is solid evidence, G7 will not stay quiet and will question India. All the talks about investigation bias will mean nothing when the heat is on India. But, if there is no evidence, then JT truly fked Canada and more importantly his political future.
Exactly. This has got to be the most idiotic move from the Indian government.
 
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I have a different perspective to this. The guy that got shot, is he a good guy? Absolutely not. He betrayed his own country, cheated his way to Canada, and got Canadian citizenship. Did India have the right to execute him? Nope, but he would have been killed had he been in India where law can be bought by money. But India allegedly killed him on a foreign soil. If India gets away, then there will be another murder by India. If there is solid evidence, G7 will not stay quiet and will question India. All the talks about investigation bias will mean nothing when the heat is on India. But, if there is no evidence, then JT truly fked Canada and more importantly his political future.
Think about it. Their investigation will be challenged for years and years. Before it is conclusive, they'll be fatigued, leaders will be changed. No one will care about it.

They butchered Jamal Khashogi in an embassy. G7 stayed quiet. It is nuanced how differently they'll treat MBS vs India, but I think the consequences are not going to be any significant.
 
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Lol. The implications of this are extremely serious. It would send a message to the west that Indian spy agencies are willing to conduct clandestine operations on foreign soil. The Americans would consider that an open threat and would counter that with their own covert operations. Americans don’t give a crap about anything apart from their own interests and Canada doesn’t really give a fuck about its relationship with any country apart from the US. It stands nothing to lose if its relationship with India collapses. It barely does any trade with India. If Indians stop coming to Canada, the government would open the doors to other nationalities in order to fulfill their immigration quotas. Before 2015, Indian immigrants made up less than 20 % of all new immigrants to Canada.
West has been bombing and murdering people left and right in other countries. I don't know, if they can get away with pure murder, so can any other nation.

>If Indians stop coming to Canada, the government would open the doors to other nationalities in order to fulfill their immigration quotas.
It is open for all. Stop pretending it isn't.
 

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Lol. The implications of this are extremely serious.
"LOL" Look at what happened after Jamal Khasogi's killing. I am sure Canada is buying ZERO oil from SA? I am sure USA is selling ZERO weapons to SA? I am sure Turkey has asked SA to close its embassy?

Do not take these people in power to be fools. They know who was killed. They know more than what is present in public. They also know WHY canada is making all the noise. If total amtures like us can see through childish self interests of JT, these are politicians who do it day in and day out. There is one thing for show another thing for making decisions.

Wait for 2 months or so and Canada itself will be back with trade agreement with India. And then I will go "LOL" on you.

It would send a message to the west that Indian spy agencies are willing to conduct clandestine operations on foreign soil. The Americans would consider that an open threat and would counter that with their own covert operations. Americans don’t give a crap about anything apart from their own interests and Canada doesn’t really give a fuck about its relationship with any country apart from the US.
MAN!

Do you think this is the first time a person has been killed by a foreign power in Canada / USA? Pakistan likely killed a Baloch activist on Canadian soil just few months back. And lets not even talk about how many people in USA has been killed by Cuba etc on US soil.

India is unique but not so unique lol! I am sure as hell in past people would have been killed by Indian agents all over the world. And many times more in INdia by foreign powers.

Its just when one makes stink about it and for what goal. We all know why Modi and JT are making a stink about each others dealing.

Canada doesn’t really give a fuck about its relationship with any country apart from the US
LOL! Why do you think India usually does not do much diplomacy with Canada but with USA. When India needs something get done, it gets US on board and Canada just follows. Its that simple.

It stands nothing to lose if its relationship with India collapses. It barely does any trade with India. If Indians stop coming to Canada, the government would open the doors to other nationalities in order to fulfill their immigration quotas. Before 2015, Indian immigrants made up less than 20 % of all new immigrants to Canada.
I can... counter this easily but. Lets go with what you are saying. Totally.

Read above. And know why India does what it does.
 

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Thankyou. In EE Form, what we should write? Company Name or Our Name?
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In EE form write: "COMPANY NAME (Permanent Contractor)"
In my case, my client was also in my country so I didn't have this dilemma. I think it should be the country where the company is registered though. In your case that will be Canada.
You can add a Letter of Explanation in your application to clarify things...
 

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In EE form write: "COMPANY NAME (Permanent Contractor)"
In my case, my client was also in my country so I didn't have this dilemma. I think it should be the country where the company is registered though. In your case that will be Canada.
You can add a Letter of Explanation in your application to clarify things...
He'll get a PCC request for that country where the company is located. That'll be hard to deal with.

I was contracting a Canadian company too. I listed Sole Proprietor, {Entity name} - and location was my city. I've also seen cases where LoE instead of PCC leads to cancellation of application too. Safe to use location as their location. This would also be similar to a situation where someone let's say works for Toptal, but the location will be the person's actual location.
 
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He'll get a PCC request for that country where the company is located. That'll be hard to deal with.

I was contracting a Canadian company too. I listed Sole Proprietor, {Entity name} - and location was my city. I've also seen cases where LoE instead of PCC leads to cancellation of application too. Safe to use location as their location. This would also be similar to a situation where someone let's say works for Toptal, but the location will be the person's actual location.
Good point, thanks for the clarification!
 

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But India allegedly killed him on a foreign soil. If India gets away, then there will be another murder by India. If there is solid evidence, G7 will not stay quiet and will question India. All the talks about investigation bias will mean nothing when the heat is on India. But, if there is no evidence, then JT truly fked Canada and more importantly his political future.
My take is, this is the first time so much stink has been made about it. I am sure as hell all countries have been doing this all the time. Trudeau made a stink because of his compulsions or really stupid self serving goals. Case in point: Death of a certain baloch activist on canadian soil which was very suspicious.

Even Trudeau said that he does not want to provoke India or escalate the situation. This will die out very fast because keeping this mess open for too long is not in favour of anyone in G7 and India.

Exactly. This has got to be the most idiotic move from the Indian government.
Can someone tell me why INDIANS are the worst kind of diaspora on the planet? I mean if someone needs to invade India they should collect Indians and give them weapons! (Wait... didn't that happen in history? Shit!)

Here we have a person who is going above and beyond what EVEN Trudeau has done! He JUST DECLARED that India has done it! BRAVO!

Here is what Trudeau's OWN minister is saying : https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/harjit-sajjan-hardeep-singh-nijjar-1.6971605

Canada's minister of emergency preparedness says the prime minister publicly implicated India in the murder of a Canadian citizen because he learned the story was going to come out in the media.
It was NOT that Trudeau had enough proof or evidence at hand. It was that they wanted to PREMPT Canadian media so that they are not caught in another foreign interference scandal.
 

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West has been bombing and murdering people left and right in other countries. I don't know, if they can get away with pure murder, so can any other nation.

>If Indians stop coming to Canada, the government would open the doors to other nationalities in order to fulfill their immigration quotas.
It is open for all. Stop pretending it isn't.
Sometimes I really HATE to be an Indian diaspora person. My own fellow diaspora members have this weird kind of hate towards their own country that is not explainable by anything else. I do not know where this comes from but it is really illogical and deep rooted. You will never see anyone else go to the extremes as our diaspora goes. Some of them copy the talking points of White nationalist right wing folks left right and centre! Its bizarre! And a lot of them are not even minorities from India who are facing major issues lately!

How the heck does it work! I can understand frustration with India. I can understand every emotion but why this weird kind of hate? Its like they are ready to not ask jump how high but also add a roll over in their jump. Sometimes they jump even when no one is looking.

May be I don't know because I am not originally from India for generations like they are. I have not seen Pakistan, Sri Lankans and Bangladeshi do it. Its uniquely Indian charecterstic.

Sorry I just went on a rant... I had to get it out of my head. Its a weird thing that is always irritating me. Like you know a bunch of lemings going to drown themself and you can just stand watching them do it.
 

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He'll get a PCC request for that country where the company is located. That'll be hard to deal with.

I was contracting a Canadian company too. I listed Sole Proprietor, {Entity name} - and location was my city. I've also seen cases where LoE instead of PCC leads to cancellation of application too. Safe to use location as their location. This would also be similar to a situation where someone let's say works for Toptal, but the location will be the person's actual location.
thanks for the advise, if you were in the same situation did they ask for any additional docs? and most importantly Entity name wil be my name as i recieved payments on my name and also cobtract is on my name?