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[AlmostThere2]

this is wrong.... They can re send it as many times as needed I can assure u that .

I thought someone was recently having trouble updating their medicals and the facility informed them that they won't send another medical for another year or so. I didn't think it depended on the institution as they should all use the same system for homogeneity. I'm glad to be proven wrong.

 

[AlmostThere2]

If Canada continues with the same approach, it will face the same problem forever.

Think about it, its year 2070, you already have 60 million people, perhaps 20 million retirees, what is the plan now ? Bring another 20 million to maintain the same standard of living ? Okay!

Now its year 2100, you have 30 million retirees, still a lot of jobs to fill, you need another 30 million to maintain the same standard of living, what do you do now ? Bring on board another 30 million ?

You see, its never ending, right ?

The solution is pretty simple and logical, every city/province/territory/country has its own specialty and you bring on board people adequatly for that place to maintain the same standard of living and what it offers. Example:

Greece is world's top tourism destination country, especially during the summer. It also has numerous other industries, but tourism is the heart of the economy. They have and need always world class hospitality workers, engineers and other professions that might be in need in Germany, have a miniscule demand here and problably no future.

Why did I bring that up ? Very simple. You need to plan immigration according to your current and future needs segmented by cities/territories/provinces if you want to prosper and maintain your standard of living. Saying you need to grow 1% of the population to do that is just plain stupid, wrong and worthless. You don't need headcounts, you need a segmented type of professionals for each particular place, that might differ considerably from province -to-province and city-to-city. Another thing, if for example a three companies open up in Alberta for numerous reasons and have together 3000 job openings for telemarketers, you as a province should analyze the current and long term benefits of those jobs and not just blantly go opening a stream for telemarketers because there is so much demand and noone to fill, right ? Alberta has some key industries and some minor ones, their focus should be to maintain and strenthen those positions and perhaps try to diversify step-by-step. The illustration is purely fictional, but I think you get where I'm going at. That is a sound immigration plan and not numbers, numbers are completely worthless.

As for Italy, they are facing another immigration threat at the moment and have been facing that for the last decade, illegal immigration coming from Africa, in the thousands by the day, together with France and Spain. The Liberal mentality around Europe has made it possible to degrade so low and not be able to even protect your territory and borders, which soon will bring what you really don't need and want, extreme nationalism. In almost every European country, due to these uncontrolled immigration and unneeded levels, the nationalism has risen considerably these years and has no sign of stopping in sight.

I agree with you on most points, but a truly well thought-out immigration plan should at least have a multidecade horizon, but most politicians only think about the next election cycle (as we saw with Mendicino...)

 

[ElvisRamaj]

https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/marche-immobilier/2022-08-29/rapport-de-la-banque-td/le-prix-moyen-des-maisons-pourrait-reculer-de-25-d-ici-le-debut-2023.php

The average house price could fall by 25% by the start of 2023

(Toronto) The average price of a home in Canada could fall 20% to 25% by the first quarter of 2023, compared to the peak seen earlier this year, suggests a new report from TD Bank.

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Just a little increase in interest rates is bringing the real estate prices down to earth, more affordable and available to those waiting.

 

[ElvisRamaj]

I agree with you on most points, but a truly well thought-out immigration plan should at least have a multidecade horizon, but most politicians only think about the next election cycle (as we saw with Mendicino...)

Absolutely.

It should be well researched and very targeted taking into account the future needs of the country for at least the next 30 years.

 

[ilikesnow]

this is wrong.... They can re send it as many times as needed I can assure u that .

I thought someone was recently having trouble updating their medicals and the facility informed them that they won't send another medical for another year or so. I didn't think it depended on the institution as they should all use the same system for homogeneity. I'm glad to be proven wrong.

I'm just gonna use current one and later try to do new one.

 

[ElvisRamaj]

This is totally false. Relative to what is needed, the number is very very modest. Canada has some very well defined limits to immigration which are given in level plan.

Secondly, Canada's immigration has been very heavy on higher skilled individuals while lower skilled individual in construction for instance simply does not get any focus. If a worker wants to work in Canadian construction industry for instance, he already needs to have a trade certification in Canada. Needless to say, lower skill trade workers are in short supply. Look at time it takes to get a plumber, electricians and general construction workers. Construction and repairs take very long.

Canada needs a different channel for immigration for trades which allows easier intake of workers in those areas. And it needs higher immigration levels.

Also, it needs to streamline its immigration processes.


Wrong. It is possible to out-immigrate the greying population. It is just not as politically "popular".

Also, Canada has been historically heavy on skilled immigration. It is just not equally curious about so called "essential" workers. And secondly, Canada has not been very active in enabling the immigrants. Regulations and cartels have been major blocking issues. Like doctors who immigrated here do not have a simple or fast path to practice or work in a hospital.

Well, we clearly have different fundamental views and opinions aswell on immigration, and apparently even on the use of words.

So, let's just agree to disagree.

 

[ImpatientDragon]

Well, we clearly have different fundamental views and opinions aswell on immigration, and apparently even on the use of words.

So, let's just agree to disagree.

@ElvisRamaj means - I don't care about all this anymore just give me my ITA and then I will vanish.

 

[ElvisRamaj]

@ElvisRamaj means - I don't care about all this anymore just give me my ITA and then I will vanish.

Yes, I do want that ITA and to tell you the truth I really do care since I will hopefully be calling Canada my new home.

Everyone has their views on immigratiom but I like to base mine on actual examples around the world to arrive at conclusions. We have enough evidence on the benefits and cons of immigration worldwide to make absolutely currect assumptions of what will happen in the future with each decision taken right now.

 

[ashu2111]

Hello again mateys,

I would like to ask you all another question. Does being unemployed hurt your chances for Canadian immigration? There was a time when I was sitting at home doing nothing at all learning French all by myself! And also helping out my family with stuff. I wonder if this is something that will kill me on the background check? Also, when I was in PGWP on Canada, I had a gap period too as I was looking for jobs in my field of study (that I never found).

I do hope that IRCC doesn't use this against me to reject my application. Any thoughts?

 

[RSub]

Hello again mateys,

I would like to ask you all another question. Does being unemployed hurt your chances for Canadian immigration? There was a time when I was sitting at home doing nothing at all learning French all by myself! And also helping out my family with stuff. I wonder if this is something that will kill me on the background check? Also, when I was in PGWP on Canada, I had a gap period too as I was looking for jobs in my field of study (that I never found).

I do hope that IRCC doesn't use this against me to reject my application. Any thoughts?

I quit my job and stayed at home for 10 months before starting my MBA. Did absolutely nothing but eat, eat, and eat. Got my PPR in April.

 

[ashu2111]

I quit my job and stayed at home for 10 months before starting my MBA. Did absolutely nothing but eat, eat, and eat. Got my PPR in April.

Awesome. So happy for you! My gap is more than 10 months but I can justify most of it as I was learning French at home. Btw, when you were filling your schedule A, did you clarify in detail what you were doing or just wrote "unemployed"?

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

Awesome. So happy for you! My gap is more than 10 months but I can justify most of it as I was learning French at home. Btw, when you were filling your schedule A, did you clarify in detail what you were doing or just wrote "unemployed"?

Damn you really take every opportunity to bring up the fact that you learnt french, don't you?

 

[GandiBaat]

@ElvisRamaj means - I don't care about all this anymore just give me my ITA and then I will vanish.

Apparently, my thinking is sort of looking like conservatives -- as far as immigration, labour and housing goes.

https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/conservative-leadership-frontrunner-poilievre-hits-vancouver-island-5751358

“The federal government flooded the economy with easy cash over the last two years. That boosted demand and the local governments have blocked supply with government gatekeeping,”

You tell them Poilievre!

The Conservative leadership candidate would require all federally funded transit stations to have pre-approved permits for high-density housing on surrounding city land.

Yum! Higher density in and around transit stations

The feds must also expedite immigration for construction workers needed to build homes

I can live with that!

Employers who cannot find workers in Canada should be able to sponsor skilled immigrant workers much faster than what the current system allows, Poilievre said.

Yes, and Yes!

Poilievre said he prefers the Express Entry model geared towards skilled workers but that it should be expanded to a broader range of occupations.

Indeed!

Poilievre also proposes creating standardized testing for immigrant professionals such as medical doctors. It would be up to provinces to opt in.

Absolute-fluffing-ly. Don't make taxi drivers out of GPs.

That being said, Conservatives are also known to sneak poison pills in everything they do. When they did EE, they cancelled anyone who had an application pending instead of transitioning them to EE. So! I am not really convinced with them.

 

[RSub]

Awesome. So happy for you! My gap is more than 10 months but I can justify most of it as I was learning French at home. Btw, when you were filling your schedule A, did you clarify in detail what you were doing or just wrote "unemployed"?

I wrote unemployed. IRCC doesn't care if you were unemployed for 10 years as long as you have the points. You don't need to justify anything.

 

[GandiBaat]

If Canada continues with the same approach, it will face the same problem forever.

Think about it, its year 2070, you already have 60 million people, perhaps 20 million retirees, what is the plan now ? Bring another 20 million to maintain the same standard of living ? Okay!

Now its year 2100, you have 30 million retirees, still a lot of jobs to fill, you need another 30 million to maintain the same standard of living, what do you do now ? Bring on board another 30 million ?

You see, its never ending, right ?

I will like to draw your attention to this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#Age_characteristics

Specially this graphics :

Do you see that fat boom that starts at around 1955 and keeps on moving forward? Thats is baby boom, through various years. That you need to accommodate in your planning to keep supporting the social security system and health care. And thats your answer to "How long" and "how many retirees". Its simple : As much as that boom needs support. Once you have a demography that can support the boomers and you keep on intaking that many as those who leave the economy due to retirement, your immigration numbers should stabilize. Two assumptions :

1. Natives do not suddenly start producing more babies.
2. Some future tech does not drastically increase life spans of humans from what it is today.

So yes, there is a saturation point and it is around how many they will need to support boomers.