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Lord_Tony

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LOL! They should find involvement of our beloved Indian mission staff, some punjabi criminal gangs and Modi as well just to make the picture complete. It would have been really funny if it was not as sad.
My office colleague was joking today that your premier thinks that Gandhi is only famous after Ben Kinsley acted in a movie, which was so funny. This is like a South African saying they knew Mandela only after the Invictus movie came out :p ya right we all thought Morgan Freeman was Mandela before he retired from politics and became an actor;)
 
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iSaidGoodDay

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LOL! They should find involvement of our beloved Indian mission staff, some punjabi criminal gangs and Modi as well just to make the picture complete. It would have been really funny if it was not as sad.
There are some reports of undocumented South American migrants who died while being trafficked from BC to the US. Maybe that's the reason behind this investigation.
 

GandiBaat

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My office colleague was joking today that your premier thinks that Gandhi is only famous after Ben Kinsley acted in a movie, which was so funny. This is like a South African saying they knew Mandela only after the Invictus movie came out :p ya right we all thought Morgan Freeman was Mandela before he retired from politics and became an actor;)
Its called election! when politicians take flights of fantasies and produce gems like these. Given that this is election year in India, US and next is one in Canada, there will be more.
 
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abhiram.kumar

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Would there be a PPC majority or we will have the clown show continue forever?
The liberal party is done. Housing has destroyed their chances. The conservatives don’t even have to campaign anymore. No one knows what the conservatives will do anymore but they will get destroyed as well if nothing is done about housing. You maybe right in the sense that a radical party like the PPC might finally win a few seats in Canada if housing gets worse. Extreme situations push people to the fringes. Here’s the thing about housing. Canada is a free market economy. Governments have no control over the price of housing. Demand for housing is primarily driven by the borrowing capacity of individuals. You cut back on borrowing capacity and the credit bubble begins to unravel or deleverage. The BOC controls borrowing capacity for everyone. The primary reason Canada’s housing market went into a bubble is because the BOC wanted to follow the Federal reserve in 2008 and kept interest rates very low for a decade even though Canada was not in a recession. Mom and Pop investors took that as an opportunity to borrow more and buy more. The problem with that line of thinking is that what goes up will ultimately come down. Housing crashed in the 1990s and never recovered until a decade had passed. It’s not piss poor International students buying million dollars homes, it’s individual investors and old stock immigrants borrowing excess amounts of money to buy additional homes. The entire pack of cards is in collapsing right now. The condo market in Toronto and Vancouver is getting hammered with no end in sight. No one knows what’s going to happen but the real estate industry might tank and pull down other industries as well.
 
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Lord_Tony

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Its called election! when politicians take flights of fantasies and produce gems like these. Given that this is election year in India, US and next is one in Canada, there will be more.
OMG yes the fantasies of these politician clowns are becoming comical day by day. Donald Trumps fantasies are even better than the above. His most common comment to the black community was he did more for them than even Abraham Lincoln.
https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/trump-says-he-has-done-more-for-black-people-than-anyone-with-possible-exception-of-lincoln-88141381811

Yesterday was ultimate cherry on the top. He compared himself to that Saintly lady from India Mother Teresa during that porn actress bribing case.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/donald-trump-mother-teresa-hush-money-charges
 
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GandiBaat

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Would there be a PPC majority or we will have the clown show continue forever?
Unlikely.... PPC platform has one fatal flaw.

https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/health-care

Repeal the Canada Health Act, and create the conditions for provincial and territorial governments to set up mixed private-public universal systems like other developed countries.
These highlighted words sound like blasphemy in the ears of our lovely canadian folks. Especially older ones.
 

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GandiBaat

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You never know... a lot of them may be new immigrants in the first place.

Of the 126,340 who emigrated from Canada to the U.S. that year, 53,311 were born in Canada, 42,595 were Americans who left here for their native land, and 30,434 were foreign-born immigrants to Canada who decided to move to the U.S. instead.
And it seems this way.
 
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Lord_Tony

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Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #296– May 30, 2024

See full text of Ministerial Instruction

Provincial Nominee Program

Number of invitations issued:
2,985Footnote*

Rank required to be invited to apply: 2,985 or above

Date and time of round: May 30, 2024 at 14:59:31 UTC

CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 676

Tie-breaking rule: January 19, 2024 at 18:32:21 UTC

If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.

Footnotes
Footnote 1
Invitations to apply to the Provincial Nominee Program may be issued through this round of invitations.
 

Lord_Tony

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Mar 7, 2023
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07-05-2023
Med's Done....
15-05-2023
VISA ISSUED...
15-12-2023
It is so damn ridiculous, they stock pile PNPs for a month and release a draw is this the local draw that they were promising to reduce temp residents?
 

Windsor37

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Thats just one clause of the regulation. There is more.

In different situation, end of authorized period can vary. For instance, someone on study permit who applied for work permit or even a visitor record can still stay in Canada on maintained status. So yes, the condition on study permit is a lie and misleading one. What IRPR and IRPA require you to do is to comply with them and not "LEAVE CANADA BY XYZ" date unlike what permit says. Thats the lie.
Well yes, because the LEAVE CANADA BY XYZ is becomes invalidated once they change status, see clause (5). Whether you transition from student -> worker -> tourist -> worker -> student, it's ok because it's nullifies the first leave by date. BUT that means you have to APPLY, so if a student was too lazy to APPLY for a work permit, their original LEAVE CANADA BY XYZ data remains valid.

Extension of period authorized for stay

(5) Subject to subsection (5.1), if a temporary resident has applied for an extension of the period authorized for their stay and a decision is not made on the application by the end of the period authorized for their stay, the period is extended until
  • (a) the day on which a decision is made, if the application is refused; or
  • (b) the end of the new period authorized for their stay, if the application is allowed.


The proper way is to word it like "The authorization to stay and study/work on this permit alone ends on XYZ date". Anything else is a misrepresentation. It can be further strengthened by addition of a condition like "You will leave Canada if you do not have an authorization to stay in Canada". Which is kind of redundant but then its better than how they misrepresent it presently. When you say "LEAVE BY XYZ DATE" the assumption is that one will not seek a further status.

If you argue that "Canada dos not know that you want to transition to another status" then it is illogical to argue that "Canada KNOWS that you DO NOT want to transition to another status". By saying "LEAVE BY XYZ" it is assuming that you will not seek another status, hence "LEAVE" because you are not having further authorization to stay.

The reality is, only authorization from that permit alone ends on that day. Wether one needs to leave by that date depends upon if they have authorization from elsewhere (such as maintained status etc).
No it's not misrepresentation, because the "LEAVE BY XYZ DATE" gets invalidated once you APPLY for a new status based on clause (5).


As I said before, there a different clauses which make sense in different situations. One can have another permit, one can have a maintained status too or there may be a temporary public policy that grants you an authorization to stay (this has happened during pandemic).


I am not sure if this is related to this discussion. There can be situations in which a person can or can not apply for a new status. That does not absolves IRCC of lying on its authorization letter (the permit; study or work).


Not so fast! There are legal doctrines regarding change of regulations or laws such as "grandfathering" -- (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/grandfatherclause.asp#:~:text=A grandfather or legacy clause,often for a limited time.). This is to reach a fair compromise and avoid unfairness.

It is not possible to simply take away a privilege which was initially granted without providing a ramp off and it is often frowned upon or rejected in court of law.


Very likely, it will get challenged in court of law as an unfair policy. They can change policy that any study permit issued after XYZ date will NOT have a work authorization but revoking the existing privledge will lead to a legal quagmire.

Thing is, for any government, to be a government and have a rule of law, they need to have a rules which follow established legal doctrines and due process. This is what separates a court from a kangaroo court and governments from mafia.

If your country does bait and switch as a legal policy (like enticing students with work authorizations and suddenly revoking working privledges), it will be termed as a mafia and not a government. If it does it as a habit, sooner than later people will wise up. There are legal and fair ways to achieve the desired policy goals -- like reducing intake and reducing or eliminating work authorization for incoming students but tactics that are foul will end up hurting Canada and will set really really bad precedent.
It depends, which people would wise up? If it's the immigrants and temporary residents, what are they going to do about it? vote the government out to change these policies? If it's the Canadians, then you have to make a case why this kind of "wreck" is disadvantageous to them, which is hard especially for the native born one who likely doesn't experience this kind of VISA hopscotching. For the Canadians, they consider immigrants to drive up the value of their properties, make sure that education is cheap for them, and pay income taxes to sustain their healthcare system, so it's not surprising they want more. Case in point, if we didn't have any rental housing crisis that affected the quality of life of native Canadians, IRCC wouldn't even think of reducing international student population.
 

Windsor37

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Roflmao. PHD holders?? Hahaha. Miller released a report stating that a staggering number of these beggars study bullshit business management and commerce programs which have absolutely worthless prospects in Canada. If they were actually in healthcare, they would have been gifted PR. Most of these beggars you see on the streets are neither in healthcare or STEM.
I said from vocational to PhD holders, just to emphasize a point that regardless of what study they finished, they've should've at least made due diligence of what are they getting themselves into. So to substitute it here, these MBA or Commerce students should've made due diligence what are they getting themselves into (like checking out the job market) before even starting their programs.