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littlestar19

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I am glad you found my message helpful! Indeed, when you take a liking to the french language, much like I did, learning will cease to be a hassle and you'll actually look forward to it. Funny how the mind works.

I'm convinced you have the right attitude for tackling this challenge; slowly but surely you'll be skilled sooner than you think! Previous contact with the language helps a lot. Try remembering the good times, it always works for me. If you have any more questions I'd be more than happy to share what I know.

Best of luck in your french learning journey!
Thank you so much :)
I am having so good and positive vibes from you and everyone else here !!
Feeling so good that I have people whom I can turn to anytime :)
Can you tell me the difference between TEF and DELF ?
Which level would I have to achieve to give TEF ?
 

Yumna

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Had a coffee break at work, saw the question and decided this would probably be the best use I could give the next 10 mins. Here goes my answer!

The internet is a goldmine for free french resources. For starters though, I recommend getting a "feel" for the language. That is, actually mimicking as if you "spoke" the language through the 4 skills: reading, writing, listening and speaking. I think the Pimsleur's Beginner French course and Assimil French as well work wonders for this. I used Lawless French back in the day as well, which I really liked. Italki is great for finding tutors and you can also find people who will help you with test prep, when you're ready for that. Google precise grammar mistakes as they pop up in your head. Tex's french grammar is great for this. Once you get into really intricate stuff, you may want to look up "Le bon usage" by Maurice Grevisse. If you can nail a few of the details in that book, it'll surely boost your writing/speaking test score.

Another tip: Fill your life with french! Join an online community; there's many discord servers for many interests, language learning in general or just hobbies in french, just google them. I recommend having a B1/B2 level when you venture past the learner ones, people will respond amazingly. For starting out the "listening" portion, RFI's le journal en français facile was a godsend; you can play these short news snippets on your way to work, for example. I personally love Language Learning with Netflix as well, not to mention that I've amassed a pretty good library of french books by now. For additional inspiration, look for Kato Lomb's "Polyglot". Short book, but she lays down a lot of the "important stuff" that goes into learning a language.

The real answer is that you have to get comfortable with it; no learner is the same. Your "mission", so to speak, the first few months or so, is to figure out how you learn the best and go with it. Whether it's watching series, in a classroom setting, reading books, or a combination of all. Figure out what draws you into the language and pursue it till the end!

Remember: in the end, consistency trumps all.
Hi, sorry its off topic
I saw your signature, your ADR submission shows 4th May and ADR acknowledgement shows 13th June.
In between this period, did it show "your action is required" and also, did you receive the acknowledgement email on 13th June?

As I submitted my ADR (PCC and Schedule A) yesterday, I didnt receive acknowledgment email and the portal shows "your action is required".
 

cemivac

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Nov 17, 2020
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Tha

Thank you so much :)
I am having so good and positive vibes from you and everyone else here !!
Feeling so good that I have people whom I can turn to anytime :)
Can you tell me the difference between TEF and DELF ?
Which level would I have to achieve to give TEF ?
This one is important. AFAIK, federal express entry does NOT accept DELF as a french test, although it's accepted for applying to Quebec directly, if I'm not mistaken. Therefore, for the sole purpose of boosting your application score, you MUST take a TEF/TCF test. These are performance based tests, as opposed to DELF, which is a threshold based test. An explanation is as follows:

When you ask to take a DELF test, you'll sign up for a particular level according to the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages (CEFR), ranging from A1 to B2 for 4 levels in total. If you're going for either C1 or C2 you'd have to sign up for a DALF test, which is completely different in format and past the scope of this explanation. Say you signed up for the DELF B2 test; if you pass it, you'll have a certificate that says your level is B2, based on an accumulated pass/fail metric in each of the 4 language skills. If you score over half of the points in all four skills, you get your certificate.

For TEF/TCF however, no such threshold exists. A C2 person and an A1 person take the same test; it's the points you accumulate in total that give you a grade. If you demonstrated B2 skills across the board, you'll get that score. It is not uncommon to receive different levels in different skills: You may be REALLY good at speaking and get evaluated as C1 in speaking while your reading lags a little behind, which earned you a B2 in reading, on the same test. To get the most points for EE, you'd need a TEF/TCF that has B2 minimum across all four skills, alongside C1+ English or vice versa.

Something you have to keep in mind is, these tests have practical aspects to them. DELFs tend to be available year round, at your nearest Alliance Française. TEF/TCFs have less test dates and may or may not be more expensive, depending on your region. Therefore, what I'd do is, I'd take a DELF B2. If you can comfortably pass it, nearing a maximum grade in all the skills and studying intensively for the ones you lagged behind in, I'd then take a TCF/TEF.
 

cemivac

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Hi, sorry its off topic
I saw your signature, your ADR submission shows 4th May and ADR acknowledgement shows 13th June.
In between this period, did it show "your action is required" and also, did you receive the acknowledgement email on 13th June?

As I submitted my ADR (PCC and Schedule A) yesterday, I didnt receive acknowledgment email and the portal shows "your action is required".
Hey, no worries. I did not get the "your action is required" message after I uploaded and clicked the "transmit" (or send, or similar) button for the documents requested in the ADR. Make sure you clicked that button! My profile was back to submitted/read. Exactly 40 days later my profile was updated in the ADR section and an email followed shortly after.
 
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Empress32

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Hi, sorry its off topic
I saw your signature, your ADR submission shows 4th May and ADR acknowledgement shows 13th June.
In between this period, did it show "your action is required" and also, did you receive the acknowledgement email on 13th June?

As I submitted my ADR (PCC and Schedule A) yesterday, I didnt receive acknowledgment email and the portal shows "your action is required".
Go back to where you uploaded your documents, scroll to the bottom of the page and ensure you pressed submit/tramsmit and do the electronic signature etc. Once your documents are transmitted, where you are now seeing 'your action is required' should go back to submitted. From there your profile should say documents uploaded under additional documents, before you receive an acknowledgement and it changes to your documents are being reviewed.
 
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dankboi

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I am having a blast with them.

In January 2021, I was waiting to get an invitation with a CRS score of 463, just 5 points shy from the last draw. I figured that by February the ITA would be in my profile, but unfortunately, that never happened.

You see, I was in the same shoe as that guy. Seeing all the CEC candidates being invited one after another, not only that, but even 40,000 international students being invited aswell, which they did apparently no effort to seek a Canadian PR, prioritized over me and others who made all we could for that invitation. So, I had no choice but to learn French and trying to get this ITA by "force" if you could say that.

Now, this guy wants to be rewarded for just "waiting". F*cking unbelievable.

One more thing, once I step into Canada, I will become conservative for life.
Now i live in a cons majority neighborhood and except for the trucks/cars with flags i didn't see much shit which i expected to witness. i didn't see a foreigner living nearby except me and the 3 housemates. neat and calm neighborhood i say. i only see foreigners in the town and most immigrants live on either side of the highways and branch streets.
 

Endriking

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I passed French too over a year ago, TCF and got those 50 extra points
Also IELTS with maximum advanced points for the second time (2 out of 4 times) Have tried for 5 years and have been very unlucky. I am 30 years old now. I spent a lot of money. Talk about persistence I have 506 points on express entry now.

But now I am in the process of getting a US green card. My Canadian PR might come too late when I will likely have gotten the US one.
 

AlmostThere2

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hopefully we all meet one day.
will be updating my address here. so all folks welcome to visit or a meet up.

Dank
yo @ElvisRamaj post it on our ppr thread

apologies my folks. doesn't feel good when my pals here have their apps and lives in limbo due to ircc's delays.

PNP Outland
OINP
PA + Dependent- 1
VO- Sydney
AOR- 18 February 2022
RFV - 9 June 2022
PR Confirmation- 4 July 2022


make sure to add colors as seen above

Congrats dude!!! Happy for you!!!
 
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littlestar19

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Cemivac, DALF c1 is a joke compared to TEF
I passed C1 with them with a high score and couldn’t pass TEF that requires an advanced b2. So yes, don’t think those tests are even a reflection of the difficulty of TEF.
Which I strongly discourage anyone from doing. Try TCF, my scores were super high there. I even got a c2 in reading.
Super great !!!
Also, its entirely our choice between TEF and TCF.
And I’ll keep this point in mind whenever I will be prepared enough to give the exam !
 

PRANIT01

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This people are just stupid and I mentioned it here at least a 100 times .They just cant compete they want free pass ,They cant get 8+ fro IELTS,They dont have a good degree or experience and to make the matters worse they are entitled and the way they behave is just trash.
Just disappointing.
Nothing else to say.I hope those CEC specific draws dont continue because it is an insult to hardworking people.
 

cemivac

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Nov 17, 2020
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Cemivac, DALF c1 is a joke compared to TEF
I passed C1 with them with a high score and couldn’t pass TEF that requires an advanced b2. So yes, don’t think those tests are even a reflection of the difficulty of TEF.
Which I strongly discourage anyone from doing. Try TCF, my scores were super high there. I even got a c2 in reading.
Hey! Not my experience at all. I passed a TEF first and TCF shortly after due to varying test date availability and scored roughly the same in both tests. Regarding the difficulty of the DALF/DELF, the point I was making was, taking a DELF/DALF exam before a TCF/TEF is a low overhead, low investment approach to getting a feel for where you stand, skillwise, that's a bit more official than a mock test.
 

ElegantVegetable

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This people are just stupid and I mentioned it here at least a 100 times .They just cant compete they want free pass ,They cant get 8+ fro IELTS,They dont have a good degree or experience and to make the matters worse they are entitled and the way they behave is just trash.
Just disappointing.
Nothing else to say.I hope those CEC specific draws dont continue because it is an insult to hardworking people.
CEC (including CRS 75 draw) is the reason behind excessive backlog that is going to lead all of us to Candian Immigration PTSD, whether the pr application gets approved or rejected.