yes.I dint get ADR but my upfront medical passed on march3.VO:NDVOAny Dec 2020 AOR who got no ADR at all?
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The treatment of newcomers under Canada’s immigration system is frankly appalling
Imagine if you had to wait three years for a response from a corporate customer service department. Or you were in line with 1.8 million others waiting for a call or an email from a government agency or business. Imagine desperately checking your phone every day for three years.
This is what keen prospective immigrants are subject to under Canada’s immigration system. Set aside the scandal of how Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada bungled the rescue and transport of Afghan and now Ukrainian refugees. These 1.8 million people are candidates who have passed an initial screening and have the skills to integrate quickly.
These are people we have encouraged to come to Canada through years of promoting our openness, tolerance and enthusiasm to newcomers, as one of the world’s most successful immigrant nations. Our birth rate is too low to even maintain, let alone grow, our population. These would-be newcomers are our only guarantee of a prosperous future, and this is how we treat them. It is frankly appalling.
The department refuses to reveal the identity of case officers, let alone their cases, allegedly for security reasons. This is nonsense. Many other countries not only give you the name of your case officer, they offer call back numbers and contacts. No, the real reason for their secrecy is surely only to conceal those responsible for this ineptitude.
Despite the bureaucratic sneer at transparency, in January the CBC was able to identify one such dilatory case officer by code number: DM10032. A man or woman who had nearly 30 cases with more than two years on the waiting list. One of the clients said he had not heard a single word from DM10032 in that time. When the CBC probed again this month, they were told that officer now had only a few such cases. This is very troubling as an insight into the culture of the department.
Where did all the other cases go in a few weeks? Were they merely shuffled off to someone else to sit on? Why did it take a determined investigative journalist, Priscilla Ki Sun Hwang, to move the department into ass-covering action? In any event, the CBC’s sources said the department’s claim was untrue — this officer still has many old cases outstanding.
The solution to this mess has three necessary ingredients: drop-dead case clearance targets; tough, intrusive supervisory oversight by a third party; and more money and staff. A solution the government has hinted is under consideration is simply wiping out the waiting list, a tactic used by the Harper government. But it is unacceptably cruel to those who have in good faith waited years through this process. Not incidentally, it would be a savage blow to Canada’s reputation as a fair and competent manager of a successful immigration system.
If senior heads need to roll to ensure the department gets the message that this government is serious, so be it. From the director to the level of the deputy minister, this is a department whose managers consistently win the prize for unacceptable performance, year after year. (To be fair, Veterans Affairs Canada has sometimes been a close contender, given its cruel and arbitrary treatment of veterans struggling with PTSD and poverty.)
This government has set a target of welcoming nearly half a million immigrants per year by the end of this decade — plus refugees and asylum seekers. It had better start ramping up its department’s ability to vet them, ensure their acceptance in a reasonable period of time, and then support their integration. It pledged more money in the budget this week.
Otherwise, we may face a net outflow of immigrants. Newcomers here may begin to reunite with other family members elsewhere, in nations who have not been so plainly dishonourable in their treatment of aspirants. It is a path some successful immigrants have felt they needed to take in years gone by, when the department’s productivity rate was, unbelievably, even worse. In the name of decency, let’s please fix this.
Imagine if you had to wait three years for a response from a corporate customer service department. Or you were in line with 1.8 million others waiting for a call or an email from a government agency or business. Imagine desperately checking your phone every day for three years.
This is what keen prospective immigrants are subject to under Canada’s immigration system. Set aside the scandal of how Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada bungled the rescue and transport of Afghan and now Ukrainian refugees. These 1.8 million people are candidates who have passed an initial screening and have the skills to integrate quickly.
These are people we have encouraged to come to Canada through years of promoting our openness, tolerance and enthusiasm to newcomers, as one of the world’s most successful immigrant nations. Our birth rate is too low to even maintain, let alone grow, our population. These would-be newcomers are our only guarantee of a prosperous future, and this is how we treat them. It is frankly appalling.
The department refuses to reveal the identity of case officers, let alone their cases, allegedly for security reasons. This is nonsense. Many other countries not only give you the name of your case officer, they offer call back numbers and contacts. No, the real reason for their secrecy is surely only to conceal those responsible for this ineptitude.
Despite the bureaucratic sneer at transparency, in January the CBC was able to identify one such dilatory case officer by code number: DM10032. A man or woman who had nearly 30 cases with more than two years on the waiting list. One of the clients said he had not heard a single word from DM10032 in that time. When the CBC probed again this month, they were told that officer now had only a few such cases. This is very troubling as an insight into the culture of the department.
Where did all the other cases go in a few weeks? Were they merely shuffled off to someone else to sit on? Why did it take a determined investigative journalist, Priscilla Ki Sun Hwang, to move the department into ass-covering action? In any event, the CBC’s sources said the department’s claim was untrue — this officer still has many old cases outstanding.
The solution to this mess has three necessary ingredients: drop-dead case clearance targets; tough, intrusive supervisory oversight by a third party; and more money and staff. A solution the government has hinted is under consideration is simply wiping out the waiting list, a tactic used by the Harper government. But it is unacceptably cruel to those who have in good faith waited years through this process. Not incidentally, it would be a savage blow to Canada’s reputation as a fair and competent manager of a successful immigration system.
If senior heads need to roll to ensure the department gets the message that this government is serious, so be it. From the director to the level of the deputy minister, this is a department whose managers consistently win the prize for unacceptable performance, year after year. (To be fair, Veterans Affairs Canada has sometimes been a close contender, given its cruel and arbitrary treatment of veterans struggling with PTSD and poverty.)
This government has set a target of welcoming nearly half a million immigrants per year by the end of this decade — plus refugees and asylum seekers. It had better start ramping up its department’s ability to vet them, ensure their acceptance in a reasonable period of time, and then support their integration. It pledged more money in the budget this week.
Otherwise, we may face a net outflow of immigrants. Newcomers here may begin to reunite with other family members elsewhere, in nations who have not been so plainly dishonourable in their treatment of aspirants. It is a path some successful immigrants have felt they needed to take in years gone by, when the department’s productivity rate was, unbelievably, even worse. In the name of decency, let’s please fix this.
you and me and bro...you and me....we Famly!! IRCC's 30 day deadline for ADR passed. Officer MH26363 gives zero Fux!Congrats mate!
My prophecy is about to come true :|
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My PPR also came almost a month after the ADR deadline.
I sent my VO (Ottawa) a "performance request" email asking them to finalize my application within 30 days since it had been more than 18 months. My upfront medical was approved the very next day and I got an ADR too. I am not sure the request email was the reason. Note that I didn't demand them to finalize under the threat of mandamus, so it wouldn't count as initiating mandamus, but maybe they thought it was a precursor to mandamus, who knows. In any case, I would suggest people try it.
Well...Eligibility, background and Security verifications not started
. AOR April 2020.Congrats on your PPR mate....excited for you.
I have prepared my documents for UK’s new work visa (HPI) program opening in ~1.5 months. Now it’s a race of getting PPR vs. packing up for England and updating CoR.
Kind of desperate to at least secure a (work-able) visa out of my current CoR before it turns into another Russia/Ukraine/USSR-like situation.
Kind of desperate to at least secure a (work-able) visa out of my current CoR before it turns into another Russia/Ukraine/USSR-like situation.
Hello guys, please I need your help: I'm inland PNP Ontario. I got an ADR this morning, and the officer is asking me to submit a letter of intent to live in Ontario, and explain why at the moment my address is showing Calgary.
Please does anyone know how I can respond to this?
In the ADR letter, the officer mentioned something that scared me. He said my application could be refused, if my explanation is not satisfactory.
Please does anyone know how I can respond to this?
In the ADR letter, the officer mentioned something that scared me. He said my application could be refused, if my explanation is not satisfactory.
I’m assuming that you do live in Calgary. Basically you need to explain what’s going on and help the officer make sense of the situation.
For example, if you are on work status, you might want to demonstrate that you’ve been looking into jobs in Ontario but maybe your current status is hindering your move.
Is it a "Procedural Fairness letter" or a regular document request? In any case, I would strongly suggest booking a consultation with a Canadian immigration lawyer and drafting a response with their help, you shouldn't take any risks with these kind of requests.
Thanks mate. I hope you get it soon.Well...Eligibility, background and Security verifications not started
Congrats on your PPR mate....excited for you.
PFL is serious and checks against misrepresentation. They are probably questioning your intent to live in Ontario.