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zekkeh

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How you doing, folks. Long time.

As I see apps moving and there's hope my letter isn't too far off, I had a question.

My ITA is Jan 2021, and if they pick up my app, I will most likely have to redo the medical and PCC is what I assume.

Meanwhile, I am planning to shift my location to a different city in the interim, so my question was should I create a PCC and keep it ready before I move? If I get a request for another PCC, will they accept one created a few weeks prior to it?

Thanks!
If i remember correctly, a valid PCC has to be issued after you’ve left whatever jurisdiction you’re moving from. so no, I don’t think they’ll accept that
 

KojiGold

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March is not over yet. We have Tuesday and Wednesday left.

I believe it will follow suit: tech draw, then priority occupations, but you never know. The only thing with OINP is that most of the notification of interests are sent in the first half of the year, so I guess we have some time on our hands.
Then I should stay optimistic
 

LittleMaple

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Wow amazing deal, money well spent. Can you tell me if the lawyer just sent a performance request to IRCC or they filed something in the federal court? I'm assuming it's the former since 1000 seems too cheap for a court filing.
No the application for leave and judicial review for a Writ of Mandamus was filed at the federal court in Vancouver (and I received communication/confirmation from the federal court). This was only for filing though, no arguments or anything were prepared yet, that would have been more expensive, and I was prepared to pay more but then got my PPR, so just the filing seemed to have worked

Edited to add: It actually only costs $50 to file a Notice of Application at the federal court (you can look it up), so all these lawyers charging $2000+ for simply filing are making nice profit
 
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ElvisRamaj

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No the application for leave and judicial review for a Writ of Mandamus was filed at the federal court in Vancouver (and I received communication/confirmation from the federal court). This was only for filing though, no arguments or anything were prepared yet, that would have been more expensive, and I was prepared to pay more but then got my PPR, so just the filing seemed to have worked

Edited to add: It actually only costs $50 to file a Notice of Application at the federal court (you can look it up), so all these lawyers charging $2000+ for simply filing are making nice profit
Making $300+ is nice profit, but making $2000+ is an enormous, unjustifiable, fucking huge profit for just a fucking filing.

Good for you though for getting PPR.
 

dxdroid

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Making $300+ is nice profit, but making $2000+ is an enormous, unjustifiable, fucking huge profit for just a fucking filing.

Good for you though for getting PPR.
Yes and no, would you know how to defend your position in front of the court, would you know towards which law act to refer to? Would you know all the procedure if something would go wrong? Simple answer is, NO ;) this is what you are paying for.
 

ElvisRamaj

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Yes and no, would you know how to defend your position in front of the court, would you know towards which law act to refer to? Would you know all the procedure if something would go wrong? Simple answer is, NO ;) this is what you are paying for.
Since I have a degree in Law, I can very well tell you that "yes", $2000 is an outrageous sum of money for a freaking "filing".

How much is he going to charge you later on, when he really starts to defend your case ? What will he defend exactly, because the case is already laid out. You applied 3 years ago, supplied every document IRCC requested and haven't got a decision yet. The Supreme Court I believe took out Covid as an excuse for IRCC to delay the application processing, so what is there left to argue ? Everything is already documented.

Law is pretty straight forward and categorized. A good memory, a law book and being able to communicate can take you far, especially for these simple cases.
 

Hokage

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Since I have a degree in Law, I can very well tell you that "yes", $2000 is an outrageous sum of money for a freaking "filing".

How much is he going to charge you later on, when he really starts to defend your case ? What will he defend exactly, because the case is already laid out. You applied 3 years ago, supplied every document IRCC requested and haven't got a decision yet. The Supreme Court I believe took out Covid as an excuse for IRCC to delay the application processing, so what is there left to argue ? Everything is already documented.

Law is pretty straight forward and categorized. A good memory, a law book and being able to communicate can take you far, especially for these simple cases.
Iv beeeeen saying this entire mandumbass process is scammy. $2000 just to submit a standardized piece of paper? Lmaooo
Effectively 'filing' costs more than the actual PR Application fee+ RPRF? FOH!
 
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FurioGiunta

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Since I have a degree in Law, I can very well tell you that "yes", $2000 is an outrageous sum of money for a freaking "filing".

How much is he going to charge you later on, when he really starts to defend your case ? What will he defend exactly, because the case is already laid out. You applied 3 years ago, supplied every document IRCC requested and haven't got a decision yet. The Supreme Court I believe took out Covid as an excuse for IRCC to delay the application processing, so what is there left to argue ? Everything is already documented.

Law is pretty straight forward and categorized. A good memory, a law book and being able to communicate can take you far, especially for these simple cases.
Well you have no other option if you are an outlander. $1000 seems cheap compared to what I have seen quoted elsewhere. I remember one other user, maybe @ImpatientAlligator, had a consultation with a lawyer. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they quoted $3500 for just filing (on top of 3500 for the first stage where you send the performance request to IRCC). I have seen 3000-4000 to be the standard until the filing step, from the anecdotes I have seen online. So $1000 seems cheap in that regard. Now is $1000 a rip-off? Probably, but that's a different question.
 

FurioGiunta

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No the application for leave and judicial review for a Writ of Mandamus was filed at the federal court in Vancouver (and I received communication/confirmation from the federal court). This was only for filing though, no arguments or anything were prepared yet, that would have been more expensive, and I was prepared to pay more but then got my PPR, so just the filing seemed to have worked

Edited to add: It actually only costs $50 to file a Notice of Application at the federal court (you can look it up), so all these lawyers charging $2000+ for simply filing are making nice profit
That's interesting, thanks. I have a couple more questions, if you don't mind
- Did you send a performance request to IRCC before filing Mandamus or did you skip this step?
- Did they give a ballpark of how much it would cost, if IRCC didn't settle?
 

ElvisRamaj

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Well you have no other option if you are an outlander. $1000 seems cheap compared to what I have seen quoted elsewhere. I remember one other user, maybe @ImpatientAlligator, had a consultation with a lawyer. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they quoted $3500 for just filing (on top of 3500 for the first stage where you send the performance request to IRCC). I have seen 3000-4000 to be the standard until the filing step, from the anecdotes I have seen online. So $1000 seems cheap in that regard. Now is $1000 a rip-off? Probably, but that's a different question.
Unbelievable! I definitely need to become a lawyer there.

There is no business that you can generate 1900% Return on Investment like that.
 

ElvisRamaj

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That's interesting, thanks. I have a couple more questions, if you don't mind
- Did you send a performance request to IRCC before filing Mandamus or did you skip this step?
- Did they give a ballpark of how much it would cost, if IRCC didn't settle?
Have you ever tried to send an email to IRCC and request politely how long is it going to take to receive an answer for your application?
 

FurioGiunta

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Have you ever tried to send an email to IRCC and request politely how long is it going to take to receive an answer for your application?
I have raised webforms to that effect last year, which were promptly ignored. I will do it again soon, but it is a bit early since it has only been a couple of weeks since I submitted some upfront docs. Also I'm Sept 2020 AOR, so I just crossed the 18 month mark. I will probably send a performance request within a month and if there is no reply, go forward with at least the filing stage of Mandamus. The only thing I'm wondering is, if say IRCC doesn't want to settle and proceed with the case, then can I choose not to do that and stop at that stage, so that I don't have to pay potentially tens of thousands of dollars of legal feels. In other words, can I use the filing stage as a bluff? I would not think twice about paying a couple thousand dollars if that is indeed the case, since the success rate seems pretty high.
 

ElvisRamaj

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I have raised webforms to that effect last year, which were promptly ignored. I will do it again soon, but it is a bit early since it has only been a couple of weeks since I submitted some upfront docs. Also I'm Sept 2020 AOR, so I just crossed the 18 month mark. I will probably send a performance request within a month and if there is no reply, go forward with at least the filing stage of Mandamus. The only thing I'm wondering is, if say IRCC doesn't want to settle and proceed with the case, then can I choose not to do that and stop at that stage, so that I don't have to pay potentially tens of thousands of dollars of legal feels. In other words, can I use the filing stage as a bluff? I would not think twice about paying a couple thousand dollars if that is indeed the case, since the success rate seems pretty high.
In my opinion, you can send a performance request but delay the Mandamus until at least you reach the 24th month of AOR.

I strongly believe that the IRCC is moving forward with the FSW applications and yours could be finished around the corner, especially if its not complex. I really don't advise to use Mandamus as a bluff though. Depending on how much you value Canada, a little more waiting can't hurt you.
 
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