FSW and CEC

[americandesimd]

CEC does not require you to have any funds. But you can voluntarily tell them that you have the money if you do. But this also means additional paperwork after ITA without any benefit. So I would set it to zero.

Education is not a requirement under CEC, but it will give you extra points. OP has an LMIA and has 600+ points, so he doesn't need these extra points from education to get an ITA

If you do not have an LMIA-approved job offer or a provincial nomination, you should definitely include your education. You will need every point to get an ITA. If your highest degree is non-Canadian, you will need an ECA for it.

Thanks.
I had question regarding my ielts and medical

I am the secondary applicant and my ielts is expiring Sep 2016. we are planning to submit the EE application in last week of April 2016. Do you think this is a good enough time before my ielts expire. I believe my ielts should be valid only till we receive ITA. is this correct?

I had done the medicals for me and my family in Dec 2015 for my earlier cec application. Do you think I can use the same meds for my new CEC - EE application? Is there a comments section in EE when we upload documents, where we can explain them about the earlier medicals or can we write a separate letter explaining why the meds were done earlier and if it could be reused.

 

[Dexmoody]

Thanks.
I had question regarding my ielts and medical

I am the secondary applicant and my ielts is expiring Sep 2016. we are planning to submit the EE application in last week of April 2016. Do you think this is a good enough time before my ielts expire. I believe my ielts should be valid only till we receive ITA. is this correct?

I had done the medicals for me and my family in Dec 2015 for my earlier cec application. Do you think I can use the same meds for my new CEC - EE application? Is there a comments section in EE when we upload documents, where we can explain them about the earlier medicals or can we write a separate letter explaining why the meds were done earlier and if it could be reused.

Language test results must be valid at time of ITA and at time of submitting an application post ITA. So if you receive an ITA and submit your application before September this year, you can use them.

The medical must be no older than six months when you submit your application post-ITA. Also, you must land no later than 12 months after your medical. You may have to redo it depending on when you submit your application.

 

[charlink123]

Many people have done the same thing, for example for work experience they couldn't get a reference letter for. They just included it in personal history.

If you are worried about it, you can include a letter of explanation and explain that you excluded it so you only qualify for CEC.

Hello sir. Just wonder where is the "personal history" section in the EE profile that can upload a explanation letter? There is only "work history" section there. So maybe the "personal history" is only shows up after getting the ITA? Thank you.

 

[Dexmoody]

Hello sir. Just wonder where is the "personal history" section in the EE profile that can upload a explanation letter? There is only "work history" section there. So maybe the "personal history" is only shows up after getting the ITA? Thank you.

As you suspect, the personal history section is only accessible post-ITA. The same is true for uploading documents, including letter of explanation.

 

[Linuxaway]

Hi Dexmoody,
The point that sugoidesne raised very interesting regrading "Misrepresenting" yourself because I may passed wrong information to CIC and needs more explanation from my side. However, I may call CIC tomorrow to ask such question or may you have different word.

Many thanks for your kind feedback.

Regards,
Firas

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Dexmoody,
The point that sugoidesne raised very interesting regrading "Misrepresenting" yourself because I may passed wrong information to CIC and needs more explanation from my side. However, I may call CIC tomorrow to ask such question or may you have different word.

Many thanks for your kind feedback.

Regards,
Firas

It is included in your Personal history so it isn't information that you've withheld from IRCC. Even otherwise, it is completely up to the applicant to declare (or avoid declaring) some/all of their education if they don't need those points. IRCC cannot penalize you for not having claimed points for a foreign credential - they cannot force you to have an ECA.

You have 2 options.

1) Retain the credential in your Education history and upload a short LoE in the corresponding placeholder of your post ITA application highlighting that you haven't got an ECA for this credential as you aren't claiming points for the same or,

2) Remove this credential from Education history and avoid the necessity of the aforementioned LoE altogether because there won't be an additional placeholder for this credential in your post ITA document checklist.

In either of these scenarios, you'd still mention this education as part of your Personal history. No misrepresentation involved here.

All the best!

 

[Dexmoody]

Hi Dexmoody,
The point that sugoidesne raised very interesting regrading "Misrepresenting" yourself because I may passed wrong information to CIC and needs more explanation from my side. However, I may call CIC tomorrow to ask such question or may you have different word.

Many thanks for your kind feedback.

Regards,
Firas

EDIT - similar response to Asivad's below

I understand the concern. However, as I have explained before in response to sugoidesne, many people have received PR who omitted certain parts of their CV from the “points-generating” sections of the application and only included it in personal history, e.g.:

- Can’t get reference letter for a certain job – removed from work history and only mentioned in personal history
- Spouse does not get any points for foreign work experience - removed from spouse’s work history and only mentioned in personal history

So people have done it, because you are not misrepresenting as long as you are truthful in the personal history section.

Now, if you are still uncomfortable with this, you could try the following.

- If you don’t have any Canadian degrees, you could enter your foreign degrees but just say “no” to the question if you obtained an ECA for them. This should render you ineligible under FSW as well, and you are not “misrepresenting” your education, you are just deciding not to include the ECA. CIC also have no way of checking that because they need a reference number.
- Or, you follow suigodesne’s suggestion. You just exclude your education in order to obtain an ITA, and in the questionnaire following the ITA you enter your education again and include an LoE that explains that you wanted to be processed under CEC and this was the only way to do it

 

[Linuxaway]

Hi Dexmoody & Asivad,
Many Thanks for your great answer that put me in relax mood

 

[sugoidesne]

EDIT - similar response to Asivad's below

I understand the concern. However, as I have explained before in response to sugoidesne, many people have received PR who omitted certain parts of their CV from the “points-generating” sections of the application and only included it in personal history, e.g.:

- Can’t get reference letter for a certain job – removed from work history and only mentioned in personal history
- Spouse does not get any points for foreign work experience - removed from spouse’s work history and only mentioned in personal history

So people have done it, because you are not misrepresenting as long as you are truthful in the personal history section.

Now, if you are still uncomfortable with this, you could try the following.

- If you don’t have any Canadian degrees, you could enter your foreign degrees but just say “no” to the question if you obtained an ECA for them. This should render you ineligible under FSW as well, and you are not “misrepresenting” your education, you are just deciding not to include the ECA. CIC also have no way of checking that because they need a reference number.
- Or, you follow suigodesne’s suggestion. You just exclude your education in order to obtain an ITA, and in the questionnaire following the ITA you enter your education again and include an LoE that explains that you wanted to be processed under CEC and this was the only way to do it

Sorry, additional question here.

In my previous "refused" application, I had put the Canadian Education. Is it okay not to keep my current profile consistent? My guess is it's okay, since I am making other adjustments in the profile, but I just want to get confirmation from you.

Many thanks!!

 

[Dexmoody]

Sorry, additional question here.

In my previous "refused" application, I had put the Canadian Education. Is it okay not to keep my current profile consistent? My guess is it's okay, since I am making other adjustments in the profile, but I just want to get confirmation from you.

Many thanks!!

Yes, that is fine. It is not mistrepresentation if you include it on the personal history section. So the profile is consistent, the information just appears in a different place.

 

[Linuxaway]

Hi sugoidesne,
I would like to know why the first application been refused "if possible"?
Regards,