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FSW 2014 Reject reasons

bullseye

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Oct 20, 2013
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maverick-14 said:
This is my concern also. I sent my docs on 26th and later realized that they had updated the forms on 21st! I think in 2013, they made some MAJOR changes in form, now it is a minor change (No. of years experience gap reduced). I have sent email to cic regarding this, i hope they reply. Otherwise, i will send the new form separately with a covering letter for explanation.
Maverick,

Can you please tell me what is the email id of CIC where I need to tell them about me using the old Schedule 3 form as it had not been published
 

happy16

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Jul 13, 2014
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New Delhi
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New Delhi
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2174
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App. Filed.......
21-08-2014
raja_michra said:
hello everyone...

please help....my employer has written full time on my experience letter instead of no of hrs....would that effect my application...and one more thing my file was sent on 23rd aug and delivered to cic on 28th aug..as per dhl courier...but my IELTS 2 yrs is till 21st sep...will that be fine...plz answer both questions...plz

please help i am worried

thanks
Full time is fine!! Also IELTS shall be valid (2 yrs) on date of application receipt ideally but have heard of one case where rejection was done even though his application had reached CIC few weeks before his IELTS was to expire!!

rohan85

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/fsw-2014-applicants-timeline-lets-network-here-t199004.48180.html

hope didn't scare you but was important to share this with you, good luck!!
 

naticom

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Jul 4, 2014
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App. Filed.......
04-04-2016
Doc's Request.
27-07-2016 RCMP
AOR Received.
AOR1 26-04-2016 AOR2 14-06-2016
File Transfer...
06-06-2016
I just called CIC help center and told them I sent out my application on 8/20 and on that day they updated this form. The agent told me that I might or might not get returned, and I couldn't even send an updated form to them. If they require an update, they will tell me.

The reply is quite meaningless, but at least I got an official(!?) answer from CIC.
What we can do now is wait and hope that CIC won't be too harsh on this.
bullseye said:
Maverick,

Can you please tell me what is the email id of CIC where I need to tell them about me using the old Schedule 3 form as it had not been published
 

bullseye

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Oct 20, 2013
72
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naticom said:
I just called CIC help center and told them I sent out my application on 8/20 and on that day they updated this form. The agent told me that I might or might not get returned, and I couldn't even send an updated form to them. If they require an update, they will tell me.

The reply is quite meaningless, but at least I got an official(!?) answer from CIC.
What we can do now is wait and hope that CIC won't be too harsh on this.
Hi naticom,

What do you mean by: "The agent told me that I might or might not get returned, and I couldn't even send an updated form to them. If they require an update, they will tell me."

When he/she says 'might get returned', is he meaning 'Rejected & returned' or ask us to send an updated form. What no were you able to reach them. I am not able to reach at 1-888-242-2100.Can you share the no please.
 

naticom

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Jul 4, 2014
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98
Category........
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Hong Kong
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-04-2016
Doc's Request.
27-07-2016 RCMP
AOR Received.
AOR1 26-04-2016 AOR2 14-06-2016
File Transfer...
06-06-2016
He names 3 possible outcome:
1. Old Schedule 3 form is okay.
2. Returned because of old schedule 3 form.
3. VO asks for update of the form.
Because he's not the one reponsible for this, so he cannot guarantee what will happen.

I use 8882422100 because i have a Canadian number.
bullseye said:
Hi naticom,

What do you mean by: "The agent told me that I might or might not get returned, and I couldn't even send an updated form to them. If they require an update, they will tell me."

When he/she says 'might get returned', is he meaning 'Rejected & returned' or ask us to send an updated form. What no were you able to reach them. I am not able to reach at 1-888-242-2100.Can you share the no please.
 

draman

Newbie
Sep 2, 2014
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My application was returned with a reason that the copy of degree was missing.

Alas ! what an oversight on my part!

Ques I have -
Are all the rejection reasons listed in the letter that they send or they just list the first issue encountered.
Wondering missing degree was the only issue ?

Another ques - DO I need to fill all the forms again ; get the latest bank statements or can I resubmit my previous package ?
 

nishesh3003

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Jan 14, 2014
1,704
141
Oakville Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2281
App. Filed.......
10-07-2014
Doc's Request.
Submitted with application
AOR Received.
16-01-2015
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
File Transfer...
13-01-2015
Med's Request
20-01-2015
Med's Done....
28-01-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
13-03-2015
VISA ISSUED...
24-03-2015
LANDED..........
31-07-2015
draman said:
My application was returned with a reason that the copy of degree was missing.

Alas ! what an oversight on my part!

Ques I have -
Are all the rejection reasons listed in the letter that they send or they just list the first issue encountered.
Wondering missing degree was the only issue ?

Another ques - DO I need to fill all the forms again ; get the latest bank statements or can I resubmit my previous package ?
Sorry to hear that. Be careful this time.

You do not need to update all the forms, just check if there any revisions of any forms post your submission date on the FSW Site. If yes, I would recommend using the latest one.

Make sure your DD will be valid in the future (if applicable). Update your bank statements. Make sure IELTS would be valid as well.

Lastly - I believe CIC will mention all the reasons that concluded to rejection and not just the 1st one they encounter.

Get back in.

Good Luck.
 

cycloneblurr

Star Member
Aug 13, 2014
151
19
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
2133
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07-May-2014
AOR Received.
PER: 06-Aug-2014
File Transfer...
29-Aug-2014
Med's Request
02-Sep-2014
Med's Done....
08-Sep-2014
Passport Req..
09-Oct-2014
VISA ISSUED...
07-Nov-2014
askhan said:
Following are some of the reasons why cases were rejected/returned for FSWP 2013 program: (almost all the cases were rejected/returned in the initial phase)

1- User spoke to cic office and got to know his file has been returned, don't know the reason yet
2- Incomplete Application, educational documents not submitted with ECA. IELTS was older than 2 year at the time of submission but applicant claimed expiry was 9th July.
3- Used old Schedule 3 form
4- Self Attested duties rejected by CIC, Reapplied on 6th Sep
5- Insufficient Work Experience Proof
6- Sent Photocopy of ECA report instead of original
7- Submitted old Schedule 3 Form, Reapplied on 10/9/2013
8- Did not meet the requirements of Regulation 10 of IRPA
9- Did not mention "VISA office name" in Generic Form and did not submit Additional Family information Form
10- Submitted old Schedule 3 form.
11- Used old Schedule 3 form
12- Job Description does not match with NOC
13- Incomplete Application ( waiting for mail from CIC to know what exactly is missing)
14- Used old schedule 3 form, Birth Certificate copy & ECA report not submitted.(The user informed that the birth certificate copy was submitted & there in the returned doc set)
15- Job experience mismatch with NOC
16- Birth Certificate issued by High Commission of India in Mauritius not accepted by CIC
17- Incomplete IMM5562 Travels Form and CIC need a letter from the user's employer for his duties (He had provided self signed letter as his HR was not issuing letter with all job duties)
18- The additional info. form for spouse was missing
19- Used old Schedule 3 form, Reapplied on 9/6/2013
20- Incomplete reference letter and missing duties
21- User had a job offer letter but did not have HRSDC approval
22- Failed to prove 67 points, got 66 points instead, failed to claim work experience points by not attaching duties for 2 years
23- Resubmitted the Application on 10/11/2013, Previous application was returned due to incomplete reference letter
24- Job experience mismatch with NOC, reapplied on 10/2/2013
25- Incomplete Application (waiting for Package)
26- Obtained insufficient points to qualify for immigration to Canada, 65 points
27- Incomplete IM0008 form, Page 2 Missing ( Reapplied on 9/11/2013)
28- Submitted Old Schedule 3 Form (Reapplied on 9/25/2013)
29- Did not have mother and father name in birth proof ( school leaving certificate in his case)
30- File returned due to TWO NOC Code mentioned in section 12.a of Schedule 3 form
31- File returned due to old Schedule 3 form.
32- job experience was not approved because main duties were not provided in the employer letters or documentation.
33- Incomplete Application
34- Used old schedule 3 form
35- File returned on 2 feb 2014. Credit card payment declined
36- Credit Card Failed after several tries
37- Incomplete Application
38- File returned due to missing additional info form for spouse
39- Application returned due to Old Schedule 3 Form.
40- Did not sign the Payment Form
41- CC could not be charged.
42- User's mode of payment was International Money order in USD, not accepted by CIC
43- Missing Birth Certificate.
44- Job Duties not matched & did not sign Payment Form
45- Spouse Birth certificate not submitted
46- Failed to prove 67 points, got 66 points instead, self declared main duties not accepted by CIC
47- Missing Birth Certificate of Spouse & Change to FSWP Work Experience
48- Incomplete Application ( waiting for mail from CIC)
49- Missing IELTS (Though sent with the package & did not get back from CIC)
50- Not able to reach 67 point due to points for Relative in Canada not considered by CIC.
wrong expiry date on credit card
51- ECA report by Wes was 3 years post secondary education from a non - recognized institute. This equivalency assessment did not demonstrate that he has completed the equivalent of a Canadian secondary educational credential.
52- Failed to prove 67 points, got 66 points instead, self declared main duties not accepted by CIC
53- User made a mistake of putting his primary occupation as Lecturer in Schedule 3 form (Even though he showed his experience in NOC 2243)
54- Insufficient language benchmark as per CLB
55- Incomplete Application ( waiting for mail from CIC), Reapplied on 11/18/2013
56- WES Report provided indicated the Canadian Equivalency Summary as two years of undergraduate study which did not demonstrate that he has completed the equivalent of a Canadian secondary educational credential. Decision made by CIO.
57- Ineligible NOC Code 0112 was listed as the primary occupation
58- Birth Certificate not Included & Missing Supplementary Info Travels form, Reapplied on 9th Sep with userid uskp3142
59- Reason- Photos were missing in application packet although applicant had sent it.
60- Insufficient Job Duties Proof
61- Additional family information form missing for spouse
62- Incomplete Application
63- Application rejected by CIO inspite of CC charge and ECAS IN PROCESS. Work experience for current job not provided. Reapplied on 9/30/2013
64- Page 4 of Generic form missing
65- Incomplete Application
66- Incomplete Application (waiting for Package)
hi askhan, would you happen to have an idea of how many percentage of these return/reject application happened even after receiving PER?

thanks & regards :)
 

hseamrit

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Apr 27, 2014
72
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Kyiv
NOC Code......
2263
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
05-June-2014
AOR Received.
2nd October 2014
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
File Transfer...
7th November 2014
Med's Request
7th November 2014
Med's Done....
19th November 2014
Interview........
vawied
Passport Req..
16th February 2015
VISA ISSUED...
2nd March 2015
LANDED..........
12th August 2015
Dear all,

Just want to ask one question. If anyone's application is not approved by CIO, then how the applicant comes to know about it? Will the CIO send an email initially explaining the reasons or one will receive the complete application package?

Kindly advice.
 

nishesh3003

Champion Member
Jan 14, 2014
1,704
141
Oakville Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2281
App. Filed.......
10-07-2014
Doc's Request.
Submitted with application
AOR Received.
16-01-2015
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
File Transfer...
13-01-2015
Med's Request
20-01-2015
Med's Done....
28-01-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
13-03-2015
VISA ISSUED...
24-03-2015
LANDED..........
31-07-2015
hseamrit said:
Dear all,

Just want to ask one question. If anyone's application is not approved by CIO, then how the applicant comes to know about it? Will the CIO send an email initially explaining the reasons or one will receive the complete application package?

Kindly advice.
Some people received an email in the past before receiving the application back while some did not. There is no proven consistency on CIC's behalf that you can rely on at the moment.
 

askhan

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Apr 16, 2014
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cycloneblurr said:
hi askhan, would you happen to have an idea of how many percentage of these return/reject application happened even after receiving PER?

thanks & regards :)

7 of these applicants FEE was charged..

Since these rejections are at a time when documents completion was checked, so the answer to your question is No! None of these applicants got PER...

But there are some applicants whose case was rejected at their local Visa Office (i.e. after getting PER and AOR) due to different reasons, most common of them was "Failed Job Verification"

Good luck to all of us!
 

askhan

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Apr 16, 2014
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Aug 2015
hseamrit said:
Dear all,

Just want to ask one question. If anyone's application is not approved by CIO, then how the applicant comes to know about it? Will the CIO send an email initially explaining the reasons or one will receive the complete application package?

Kindly advice.
I am not sure but i think when points dont add up to 67 you get a NER email.. If the case is due to missing or wrong doucments then you get your full application back...
But there are still some 2013 FSWP Applicants who are yet to receive their applications back, means they are not getting it back now since its been about almost one year to their case rejection..
 

shahid_canadaim

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Feb 24, 2013
122
9
124
Hyderabad
Category........
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New Delhi
NOC Code......
2171
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October 10, 2014
IELTS Request
7.5,7,7,7
askhan said:
I am not sure but i think when points dont add up to 67 you get a NER email.. If the case is due to missing or wrong doucments then you get your full application back...
But there are still some 2013 FSWP Applicants who are yet to receive their applications back, means they are not getting it back now since its been about almost one year to their case rejection..
Guys just an info not every application which gets Rejected will be returned. Sometime CIC would keep the application with them and just send a Rejection mail. I remember they say that they keep it for reference purpose.

Regards,
Shahid
 

cycloneblurr

Star Member
Aug 13, 2014
151
19
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
2133
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07-May-2014
AOR Received.
PER: 06-Aug-2014
File Transfer...
29-Aug-2014
Med's Request
02-Sep-2014
Med's Done....
08-Sep-2014
Passport Req..
09-Oct-2014
VISA ISSUED...
07-Nov-2014
askhan said:
7 of these applicants FEE was charged..

Since these rejections are at a time when documents completion was checked, so the answer to your question is No! None of these applicants got PER...

But there are some applicants whose case was rejected at their local Visa Office (i.e. after getting PER and AOR) due to different reasons, most common of them was "Failed Job Verification"

Good luck to all of us!
thanks askhan for your reply. :)
 

UknoWho

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Sep 4, 2014
2
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Hello All,

I was deported from USA a year back, I did my masters there and worked for 3 yrs in USA and got my H1 stamping also in Canada.

I had to go to india the very next day after returning to USA. While I returned back from INDIA to USA at the port of entry they found my old resume with x+ yrs exp and deported me on fraud charges.

Now I am in India working since one year. I am planning to Apply for FSW programme.

Want to know if my USA travel history of deportation effect my Chances to get PR in Canada? or even entry to Canada.

Would really appreciate your time if you can share your views or facts