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EMSIS said:
Hello guys,

Hope you could answer my query about POF.

What if VO has requested you an updated Proof of funds after all liabilities with worth of something?

Let say i only have 25K CAD in the the bank right now and without considering that after all liability amount, is it fine to submit current bank account with 25k CAD balance as my updated POF?

Regards,
EMSIS

Assets and liabilities are different from settlement funds. So if vo ask for fresh proof you can submit your current bank statements.
 
sdy said:
Hi friends,

I need one help. My application was received on July 3-2014. My credit card was charged on Oct 20-2014. I received AOR from CIO NS on Oct 23-2014 (file no & uci received). However, I have not received PER email as yet. Should I write email to CIC ( please share what email do I write) kindly advice.

Bro sdy , what you received is PER not AOR.
CIC send PER and VO send AOR.
So if you received it from CIO NS on Oct 23-2014 the that is PER with UCI# and File #, congrats :)
 
kimchilover said:
Guys, i am sure now that my application is rejected because most july 14 applicants got their per. I will prepare another application asap. Do i need to wait for application to get back to me?

Seniors?
 
manish baissoya said:
Bro sdy , what you received is PER not AOR.
CIC send PER and VO send AOR.
So if you received it from CIO NS on Oct 23-2014 the that is PER with UCI# and File #, congrats :)

No Bro, it's AOR email from CIO NS, I know CIC only sends PER email but somehow I received AOR three days after CC charge. I kept on waiting for PER (positive eligibility email) but not received any as yet
 
louie_tatz1 said:
[size=20pt] Guys!! Just got a rejection email from CIO yesterday...I got my File No. last week,,, and ECAS is in process... but the email devastated me because..I was refused because I only got 65..when in FacT it should be 72...they didn't count my relative (Aunt) in Canada as well as my Experience in second Job for NOC 3012..

What Im planning to do now..Is Appeal to the CIO or cic to review the decision...Because its UNFAIR!!!

or if they don't answer..Ill file a case against the decision...

June 18 applicant here...

Wish me luck,,,

DID you RECEIVE PER ??? What Reason have they mentioned for rejection :( it is so disheartening :(
 
Hello senior members when is approx E cas changed from we have recieved your application on xxxx to we have started processing your application on xxxx.i got Per on 4-11-14 and visa office is london.thanks
 
Hello people!
Unfortunately I noticed new NOCs few days ago and I want to apply for 1123.The cap is far from 1000 so I don't think it is the main problem for my applying for FSWP 2014.
But the main problem for me is the deadline fot it.. as I understand CIO will approve only those applications which they'll receive till the end of 2014.
I have a big hope to send my application before the deadline and is in a hurry gathering all documents (Nov, 8 I have only the IELTS result).

I want to ask you. Maybe someone knows - if they'll receive my application, for example, on 4th of January - will the reject it even though the cap will not be reached?
 
shah2014 said:
With due apologize to all, who were unaware of this (Chris humor) we used to have in early days of the forum/till regular PER rains, here are the numbers on which i based my assumption.

Work load of NDVO

NDVO's 2014 target for FSW applications is 8,100

# of apps completed from previous year programs (FSW 13 and earlier): 4,000 (We all know NDVO was almost done with the backlog before start of FSW 14 apps and keeping in view size of FSW 13 (i.e. 5,000), it is a very optimistic number)

Remaining Target: 4,100

Transfer of file to NDVO started from June (as per SS only 4 PER for NDVO candidates in May 2 on 22nd May and another 2 on 27th May)

That leaves them with less than 140 working days to finalize 4,100 apps i.e. 29 apps per working day. This estimation is based on aggressive contribution from previous programs, which means that actual requirement from FSW 14 apps cud be even higher


Process of VO's application processing

TAT: in following description means time required for each file from start to end of that stage.

Stage 1: Further eligibility, Background, and Security checks are completed --> TAT cud be 1-3 weeks for each application with many apps running in parallel, it will be even higher for interview cases --> most of these processes also run in parallel and VO can manage the time taken by improving the efficiency of case officers.

Stage 2: MR, interview (in few cases), additional docs & PCC requests are sent --> TAT applicant dependent --> these are major bottle necks for NDVO as 45-90 days needs to be given based on docs/PCC required

Stage 3: Review of submitted docs and finalization --> TAT 1-2 days --> VO can manage the time taken by improving the efficiency of case officers

Stage 4: PPR request and visa stamping --> TAT Max 30 days as Passport needs to submitted within 30 days of PPR; less than 1 hr required by NDVO for final checking of passport and visa stamping.

Optimal Workflow to maximize decision finalization by 31st Dec 2014

1. Complete Stage 1 of maximum number of apps as early as possible, so that maximum number of applicants can complete required documentation by mid of November.
2. Complete stage 2 in last 2 weeks of Nov 2014 to ensure max number of PPR are sent before 30th Nov 2014
3. Issue visas to all the processed apps by 31st Dec 2014 (as applicant only have 30 days to submit passport, NOT EXTENDABLE as per VO letter. Although in special circumstances extension may be considered)

NOTE: Any time wasted in processing Stage 3 & 4, before mid of November means few less apps reach stage 2 to give adequate time for completion of documentation/required PCC. I won't be surprised to know that between Mid Nov to end of Dec, most of the MR requests are related to applicants who have already submitted all PCCs (most time consuming requirement of stage 2).


NOTE 2: These VO targets are taken very seriously by Canadian gov and my friend Chris (Immi Minister) has to explain the reasons to the Parliament.

NET NET: NDVO shud be showering PPR in next 2-3 weeks


P.S: Specially apology to the guy who got so frustrated by my previous admittance of the humor that he gave me -1, not that i care abt these damn numbers, but because it wud have really hurt his emotions.

P.S2: I wished to give this analyses with my yesterday's post, but my laptops battery didn't allow.
Thanks for sharing useful info..+1 for you :) :)
 
Finally got my GCMS Yesterday.

Surprising facts:
> They created my file almost a month before my PER.
> They share all your info with the USA.
> I had an Auto-Email assigned for issuing PER almost a week before I got my Actual PER. But then it was cancelled.
> NDVO received my package within 2 weeks of PER.
> They started to work on my file early Oct and forwarded my file to ECU.
> Just my criminality is In Progress (Cause i submitted PCC) Rest all is "Not Started".
> CIO, NS has added a big paragraph about the points and eligibility and verification.

This is all I could decipher which might help waiting applicants. For sample GCMS notes goto http://www.gcmsnotes.com/Sample_GCMS_File.pdf.

Rest is almost the same as in the above sample.

Hopefully someone can help me understand more.
 
louie_tatz1 said:
[size=20pt] Guys!! Just got a rejection email from CIO yesterday...I got my File No. last week,,, and ECAS is in process... but the email devastated me because..I was refused because I only got 65..when in FacT it should be 72...they didn't count my relative (Aunt) in Canada as well as my Experience in second Job for NOC 3012..

What Im planning to do now..Is Appeal to the CIO or cic to review the decision...Because its UNFAIR!!!

or if they don't answer..Ill file a case against the decision...

June 18 applicant here...

Wish me luck,,,

Hi louie_tatz1,

Why didn't they count the points for relative and second job? Were any of the docs missing or they specified any other reason for that?
 
best.guid said:
Same here Bro..

Seniors pls comment.........

not true.. not all co. have HR manager. I work for the co. where we do not have Hr Manager. everything, all decisions are made by general manager.

they even accepts letters issued by your colleagues.
 
Dear fellows, as I mentioned before LVO has asked me for UK police certificate tough I stayed there only for 4 months, that (UK PCC) I have received already. They have also asked me to explain about few year that what I was doing during that period (unemployed), I have explained that too. they have asked me to send a new schedule A background declaration form for YOURSELF the visa officer has mentioned so I have filled only for myself I believe that's correct too.. they have also attached a form & mentioned form should be filled for YOURSELF & I have filled it for my self but on the form it is mentioned should be complete but all above 18, so shall I fill it for my spouse as well?
on the form they have asked about address I have written all my permanent address but im confused so do I need to write about the address I have stayed in UK also though it was staying with my family friends. I have separately mentioned about my address in UK as the officer has asked for it.
further he has asked for more evidence to prove my relationship with my relative (my sister) in Canada & also more evidence of your family members residence in Canada - NOA , job reference letter but my sister is not working she is a home maker so is it ok if I get these documents for my brother in law?? I have already sent electricity bills her passport copy her PR card copy & a bank statement on her name & also the documents showing she owns the house they live in, kindly suggest what I can send this time..
my last question I have changed job after applying which I have mentioned in the schedule A declaration form which I have filled again, do I need to send any supporting documents like offer letter??

sorry for reposting but waiting for an answer
 
I have been a silent reader of this forum since June and would like to thank all the members for sharing such a valuable information with others.
I feel very happy today to share with all of you that I have received my PER!
Details are as below:
NOC: 2174
File received at CIO: 16 June 2014
Payment charged: 3 October 2014 (as per PER email)
PER received: 6 November 2014


THANK YOU!
 
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engmSalem said:
Any help...
Dear seniors,

I submitted two applications to cic one of them 25 july cc mode and the other one 21 july dd mode ....25th july got charged shall i withdraw my DD now or better to wait for PER...as my consultant advised me to withdraw DD one. After seeing some friends got their package back after charging i get worried to especially duty mismatch. What to do please.
both applications all same document except some fix in translation and fix in schools section in forms. .

Please advise
 
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