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Foreign Service - Strike?

automaton82

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automaton82

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mask8 said:
my lawyer said applying PR wouldn't do anything with your status in Canada, no matter you are applying inland or not. no implied status either. so if she needs to leave Canada and come back in, she will need a valid entry visa; although korean citizen should be visa exempt for 6 months stay.

However, I have a Canadian friend who got married to French women. When she entered to Canada as a visitor during PR process, officer gave her 1 year visitor visa knowing that she would stay with husband during the process in Canada. just one good case I have heard, but may not apply to everyone.
I am fairly certain that is incorrect.

"If your visitor visa expires after you have submitted your application for an extension of your authorization to remain in Canada, you will be considered in status as a temporary resident (visitor) until a decision is made on the application. This is known as implied status."

from cic.gc.ca/english/visit/extend-stay.asp. I believe that would apply, as I would apply for an OWP during PR app. But I'm not sure how customs will handle that if she tries to come back into the country if she left.
 

nanediniz

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I've heard inland applicants can't leave Canada during the process.
 
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mikeymyke

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Yes and they can't appeal either, which makes inland a really poor option, IMO.
 

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mikeymyke said:
Yes and they can't appeal either, which makes inland a really poor option, IMO.
Yeah, this is how I understood it myself, and still understand it this way. It was also the reason, (one of two at least) for sending my wife back home to the Philippines to do the process, thinking (at that time at least) "oh, it is only nine months, it won't be that bad" two plus years later, ummmmm ........... still waiting (not all CEM related waiting, Philippines government gets credit for half of the bureaucracy as well)
 

automaton82

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mikeymyke said:
Yes and they can't appeal either, which makes inland a really poor option, IMO.
Considering the length of time this seems to be taking for most people, I'd rather she's here in Canada with me for the duration. Not travelling for 1-2 years is no big deal; I already do that sometimes :). As for the appeal, there are always options, but there is no grounds for refusal in our case, so I can't imagine ever having to worry about that.
 

orly

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automaton82 said:
Considering the length of time this seems to be taking for most people, I'd rather she's here in Canada with me for the duration. Not travelling for 1-2 years is no big deal; I already do that sometimes :). As for the appeal, there are always options, but there is no grounds for refusal in our case, so I can't imagine ever having to worry about that.
It's no big deal until a family bereavement for example...
 

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CanadianJeepGuy said:
Looks like the Star has forgotten what a strike is for. Provincial political leaders should be hounding the Federal Government to agree to the issue of pay equity and end the strike. Not joining the blame PAFSO game.
Yup I totally agree. The government has missed the boat here, acting like a$$holes.
 

costaudjoe

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truesmile said:
. . . the author is a "teacher".

I still don't get it, they want the ''same" salary as public servants IN Ottawa (double-shrug). OF COURSE the government won't cave.
Read this article, it is elucidating.
http://www.thespec.com/opinion-story/4060315-do-we-pay-our-civil-servants-enough-/
 

orly

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costaudjoe said:
Read this article, it is elucidating.
http://www.thespec.com/opinion-story/4060315-do-we-pay-our-civil-servants-enough-/
National Security...away and jump.

A well paid FS officer here is getting paid more than a Police Officer with over 20 years service back in the UK and you don't see them turning to terrorism, espionage or strikes.

I love the example used of the Naval Officer. Pointing out he traded secrets for money but then explains it wasn't because he was underpaid but because he was divorced and had debts. I guess that was the Govt's fault too. The whole piece is totally unfounded and offers no research or evidence. The idea that you only become a traitor if you don't get paid an extra $3k-14k is truly comical.

What a load of tripe.
 

costaudjoe

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orly said:
National Security...away and jump.

A well paid FS officer here is getting paid more than a Police Officer with over 20 years service back in the UK and you don't see them turning to terrorism, espionage or strikes.

I love the example used of the Naval Officer. Pointing out he traded secrets for money but then explains it wasn't because he was underpaid but because he was divorced and had debts. I guess that was the Govt's fault too. The whole piece is totally unfounded and offers no research or evidence. The idea that you only become a traitor if you don't get paid an extra $3k-14k is truly comical.
The author never makes the claim that an extra $3k-$14k will solve the problem. In fact he posits that they need to be well paid OR we could ultimately have national security risks. He says:
Simply put, their pay should reflect the crucial job they perform [...] Moreover, underpaying civil servants abroad incentivizes corruption and espionage.
 

automaton82

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orly said:
It's no big deal until a family bereavement for example...
Hm, so you suggest that applying outland is better than inland, even when both people are here in Canada and are going to stay in Canada during the process? I haven't looked much at the difference between outland and inland, but I do know that the strike is mostly affecting outland applications, and as well, if an interview is required, we'd have to fly somewhere.
 

orly

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costaudjoe said:
The author never makes the claim that an extra $3k-$14k will solve the problem. In fact he posits that they need to be well paid OR we could ultimately have national security risks. He says:
The article is about the ongoing PAFSO strike and that's exactly what they're asking for.

Furthermore the author claims the action is causing Canada embarrassment, for example at the G8 meetings in N.Ireland. Luckily however I have relatives working in N.Ireland who were directly involved in planning for that summit and Canada wasn't an issue at all.
 

orly

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automaton82 said:
Hm, so you suggest that applying outland is better than inland, even when both people are here in Canada and are going to stay in Canada during the process? I haven't looked much at the difference between outland and inland, but I do know that the strike is mostly affecting outland applications, and as well, if an interview is required, we'd have to fly somewhere.
It's generally a good idea particularly if you feel there isn't anything difficult about your case. If you're from a visa-exempt country you'd likely not be called for interview at all.
 

costaudjoe

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orly said:
The article is about the ongoing PAFSO strike and that's exactly what they're asking for.
And perhaps he thinks they should be even paid more than the $3k-$14k they are asking for. We don't know because he simply doesn't say it. Draw what conclusions you will the author DOES NOT say $3k-$14k will solve the problem.