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There is wide-spread speculation that Justice Rennie or Justice Barnes might not strike down s.87.4. Hence, it is believed, the lawyers are now simultaneously working on the prospect of claiming hefty damages, in the event of an unlikely win.

Going forward, it seems, it is going to be gloomy days for all of us applicants.
 

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I can not understand how they will ask for damages though most probably the judge will not eliminate S.87.4?
Or do you mean that CIC is going to ask the applicants for damages!!!
 

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Because, that is what the lawyers can do as a last resort (worst going). Again, the lawyers can only ask for damages. It is for the court to decide whether to grant the damages or not.
Who knows? CIC may even take your application fees (as damages) if you refuse to accept your application fees when it is refunded by CIC.
 

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Going forward, it seems, it is going to be gloomy days for all of us applicants.
Nooo...come on...don't say that.
I had such high hopes for you guys! I was absolutely positive that this court case would be completely settled and victory would be declared on January 14.
Are you trying to ruin my Christmas by telling me that it might not happen??
 

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Because, that is what the lawyers can do as a last resort (worst going). Again, the lawyers can only ask for damages. It is for the court to decide whether to grant the damages or not.
Who knows? CIC may even take your application fees (as damages) if you refuse to accept your application fees when it is refunded by CIC.
Thank you for your reply Warmest. I Hope you all a merry and wonderful Christmas vexation except for those who wish for the worest to happen just to prove their point of view,,,,,for those in particular I wish them the most gloomy and distressful Christmas ever!!!
 

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Nooo...come on...don't say that.
I had such high hopes for you guys! I was absolutely positive that this court case would be completely settled and victory would be declared on January 14.
Are you trying to ruin my Christmas by telling me that it might not happen??
ha ha , u r humor !! lol
 

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ha ha , u r humor !! lol
LOL. I am really loving it (not the i'm lovin' it of McDonald's).
 

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These are the latest queries raised by some of Tim Leahy's clients and one of his subsequent reply.

YUYING L.
Dear Tim:
The fight is not over as you told us. I just wonder if there is something needs us because you also said our group will close on January 5th. Does the litigation count us in such case?
I appreciate you are working in the most important holiday of the year. Take care for all of us.
1 day ago

Tim L.
Dear Yuying,
I will be seeking clarification from Justice Rennie as to his intended scope of relief. If it is as I interpret what he said on December 10th, should he rule in the applicants' favour it will benefit you as well as everyone else in our group.
14 hours ago

monish S.
Dear Tim,
Can we not do an complain about Justice barnes for not doing his duty after all he is a public servant. Surely there must be somebody whom we can complain about him also demand compensation?

Since Justice Barnes dismissed the motion, what about the protocol is Justice Rennie going to take care of it in jan.. hearing?
14 hours ago

may F.
As I understand Tim has appealed against judge Barnes December 14th ruling on the ground of him being biased and because the judge failed to exercise his jurisdiction. Whether the appeal is going to be accepted is unknown yet.
13 hours ago

YUYING L.
Dear Tim:
I got it. Thanks a lot.
2 hours ago
 

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Minister scolds judges over delays, inconsistency in refugee cases

Joe Friesen, The Globe and Mail, Last updated Monday, Sep. 10 2012

Immigration Minister Jason Kenney launched a rare public criticism of Canada's judiciary in a speech to law students Friday.

Running through a litany of examples of long legal delays that prevented the removal of failed refugee applicants, Mr. Kenney said such cases undermine public confidence in the integrity of the immigration system.

He said the Conservative government has made efforts, through its refugee-reform bill, to address the procedural issues that can drag out the refugee removal process for several years. But those efforts will be for naught if the judiciary continues to permit such long delays.

"We legislators are not an island. We don't act alone," Mr. Kenney said, according to his prepared remarks. "We need the judiciary to understand the spirit of what we are trying to do."

Speaking to the law faculty at the University of Western Ontario, Mr. Kenney said he offered his criticisms in the spirit of "constructive dialogue between the legislative branch and the judiciary."

The speech focused on Canada's Federal Court, where immigration cases are heard. He described the way in which the courts have interpreted the laws passed by Parliament as "a recurring challenge to any attempt to reform Canada's immigration system."

Immigration lawyer Lorne Waldman was critical of Mr. Kenney's speech, saying it betrayed a fundamental misunderstanding of the legal system.

"This is something Canadians should be deeply concerned about because it really suggests that this minister doesn't fully appreciate the role the courts play in our constitutional process," Mr. Waldman said. "It's interesting that he says he wants to have a dialogue with the court. I don't think the role of the court is to have a dialogue with anyone. The role of the court is to interpret and apply the law."


Although just 1 per cent of federal refugee decisions are reversed at the Federal Court, more than half of the cases the court deals with are immigration or refugee related. Mr. Kenney said that concerns him.

"It suggests to me that the integrity of the decisions made by my department is being questioned too often without sufficient justification," he said.

Mr. Waldman pointed out that of the hundreds of thousands of immigration decisions taken every year in Canada, from refugee cases to visa applications, only a little more than 1,000 received leave to be heard by the Federal Court.

Ron Atkey, a former Conservative immigration minister in the government of Joe Clark, said he has great respect for Mr. Kenney, but he thought this speech went too far.

"It's fine to have a dialogue between the legislative branch and the judiciary, but this was more than that. This was a rant," Mr. Atkey said. "I'm disappointed in Jason because he's done great things but this was not his finest hour."

When he became minister in 2008, Mr. Kenney said it was clear aspects of the immigration system were broken. He cited the example of Parminder Singh Saini, a convicted hijacker who came to Canada under a false name and was admitted as a refugee. Once his identity was discovered, it took 15 years of court challenges, appeals and reviews before he was removed in January, 2010.

Then there was the case of Jothiravi Sittampalam, who asked for a dozen reviews from the Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal before being deported six years later. The court finally concluded that "at some point in the system, there has to be finality."

Mr. Kenney also highlighted inconsistencies in the interpretation of the issue of irreparable harm in two recent cases. In one, two teenagers from Guyana were forced to leave Canada before the school year ended. The court concluded leaving school early did not constitute irreparable harm. But in another case, of a Bangladeshi woman and her two children who were denied refugee status, the court concluded leaving Canada before the school year's end did constitute irreparable harm, Mr. Kenney said.

"Call me crazy, but I believe irreparable harm means something more substantial than having to repeat Grade Six," the Immigration Minister said.

"It is cases like this that frustrate Canadians. Cases in which, seemingly on a whim - or perhaps in a fit of misguided magnanimity - a judge overturns the careful decisions of multiple levels of diligent public servants, tribunals, and even other judges. I believe most Canadians share my despair at such decisions."

Sharryn Aiken, a Queen's University law professor, said although it will generate controversy, Mr. Kenney's speech is unlikely to influence Canadian judges.

"It's a lot of hot air in one sense because there's very little the minister can do to bend the judiciary," she said. "Individual judges won't be cowed by Kenney's remarks.
More broadly it creates a chill in the political climate vis-a-vis respect for refugee rights."

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/minister-scolds-judges-over-delays-inconsistency-in-refugee-cases/article611725/?service=mobile
 

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Yeah...that's great and all, but you highlighted all the nonsense, while completely ignoring the areas of real substance that actually matter:


"...the Conservative government has made efforts, through its refugee-reform bill, to address the procedural issues that can drag out the refugee removal process for several years. But those efforts will be for naught if the judiciary continues to permit such long delays."

and

"Although just 1 per cent of federal refugee decisions are reversed at the Federal Court, more than half of the cases the court deals with are immigration or refugee related. Mr. Kenney said that concerns him. "It suggests to me that the integrity of the decisions made by my department is being questioned too often without sufficient justification," he said.

and

"...a convicted hijacker who came to Canada under a false name and was admitted as a refugee. Once his identity was discovered, it took 15 years of court challenges, appeals and reviews before he was removed in January, 2010."

and

Then there was the case of Jothiravi Sittampalam, who asked for a dozen reviews from the Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal before being deported six years later. The court finally concluded that "at some point in the system, there has to be finality."

and

...in two recent cases. In one, two teenagers from Guyana were forced to leave Canada before the school year ended. The court concluded leaving school early did not constitute irreparable harm. But in another case, of a Bangladeshi woman and her two children who were denied refugee status, the court concluded leaving Canada before the school year's end did constitute irreparable harm, Mr. Kenney said.
 

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HOPE FOR WOULD-BE IMMIGRANTS
Applications valid until class-action suit settled, federal court judge rules


By Marina Jimenez, From Saturday's Globe and Mail, News from 21/06/2003

Ottawa cannot bar 300,000 prospective immigrants from Canada using new, strict rules imposed after they applied to come to the country, a federal court judge has ruled.

The judgment, released yesterday in the Federal Court of Canada, says the government cannot reject these applications until a class-action lawsuit challenging the new selection criteria has been decided by the courts.

The decision gives new hope to 300,000 skilled workers, entrepreneurs and their families who want to immigrate to Canada and have already waited years for their applications to be processed.

A class-action suit seeking $400-million in damages has been launched on their behalf, arguing that the retroactive application of the new immigration law is unfair. They applied under guidelines in use before January 2002, and are considered backlog cases.

"This is a big victory and an important decision," said Ron Foerster, who is arguing the class-action lawsuit with Toronto immigration lawyers Dan Miller and Lorne Waldman.

Mr. Waldman added: "This is unprecedented. The government has never been told not to process applications on this large scale. Now these people still have a chance to immigrate to Canada."

Many backlog applicants would qualify under the old rules, which stressed education, age, language ability and Canada's labour market needs. The new rules favour those with firm job offers and are so strict that even a single person with fluent English and a PhD would fail to qualify. A blue-collar worker with a technical diploma married to someone with a university degree would not be accepted either.

Late Friday, a spokeswoman for Citizenship and Immigration Canada said it would comply with the order.

"We will take a careful look at the order and evaluate its implications," Susan Scarlett said. "For those people that don't meet the new criteria, we will hold off refusing them until the lawsuit is resolved."

She added that the department will still be able to welcome skilled immigrants and business people to Canada.

"We can assess and approve people who meet the new criteria," she said. "These transition measures were designed to strike a balance."

Immigration lawyers believe the new rules were implemented to get rid of an embarrassing backlog of overseas applicants.

Some people had waited as long as five years for an interview with Canadian officials to obtain a visa.

"The government came up with retroactivity rules to get rid of the backlog with a minimum of fuss because they cannot handle the workload," said Ben Trister, past president of the Canadian Bar Association's immigration section.


"Now the judge's decision has levelled the playing field. It may encourage the parties to come together and reach a common-sense decision and avoid litigation."

The ruling orders the government to provide written notice to the hundreds of thousands of people in the backlog. The majority are from India and China, but they come from dozens of different countries. The government must also advise applicants about the class-action lawsuit and the damages lawyers are seeking on their behalf.

"The government will have to sit on these files for potentially years because the courts will take years to decide the case," predicted Mr. Waldman.

The new rules were part of the government's new Immigration Act, which became law in June 2002.

The decision to apply the new rules retroactively was announced six months earlier.


Initially, the government believed only 30,000 people were in the backlog.

Some Liberal MPs were angry that the changes would disqualify skilled tradespeople without firm job offers from immigrating to Canada.

http://www.cnimmigration.com/en/ennews/464-hope-for-would-be-immigrants.html
 

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Settlement reached in immigration suit

The Canadian Press, Posted: Jul 8, 2011

The Nova Scotia government says it has reached a settlement agreement in a proposed class-action lawsuit filed in 2009 over a failed program for new immigrants.

The settlement still has to be approved in court, said Tom Peck, a spokesman for the Immigration Department.

He said that was scheduled for Friday.

"If that goes well, and they expect it should, the settlement agreement will be made public after that," Peck said Thursday in an interview.

The suit was filed in December 2009 on behalf of Peter King, who moved to Halifax from the United Kingdom in April 2006 and paid $130,500 to participate in the program's now-defunct economic stream.

The program was supposed to pair new immigrants with on-the-job training, but a statement of claim alleged that King couldn't secure work and eventually accepted a position in British Columbia.

According to the documents, King ran a limousine and chauffeur business in the U.K. before moving to Nova Scotia.

The provincial government has since refunded participants who met certain requirements, including those who lived in Nova Scotia for 12 consecutive months, but King didn't meet the criteria.

The suit alleged the province breached its contract with King by failing to provide suitable employers and management positions.

It also alleged the province misappropriated trust moneys and breached King's rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including his mobility rights.


The allegations in the statement of claim have not been proven in court.

According to the document, King had been seeking $100,000 plus interest paid in trust and unspecified damages or "the disgorgement and accounting of all amounts held in trust plus interest" received by the province, either directly or indirectly, from members of the class.

King's lawyer, Ward Branch of Vancouver, wasn't immediately available for comment.

Peck said reaching the settlement agreement avoids the potential of a "lengthy and expensive litigation."

"There is now an agreement by both sides, which makes it a little easier because both sides have set the parameters which they believe are fair," he said.

The nominee program started in 2003 under the former Progressive Conservative government and was operated by Cornwallis Financial Corp., a private Halifax firm.

The Tories assumed responsibility in 2006 and stopped accepting applications for the program's economic stream after problems started to emerge.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/07/08/ns-immigration-lawsuit.html
 

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Applications valid until class-action suit settled, federal court judge rules


By Marina Jimenez, From Saturday's Globe and Mail, News from 21/06/2003

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What is the point of posting a 9 year old story that has nothing to do with present?
 

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What is the point of posting a 9 year old story that has nothing to do with present?
It is meant for those people who can make a point (or many points) out of it.

It is certainly not meant for you. Don't break your head trying to figure out the reason. You will never be able to know it.
 

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Quote from Bellissimo Law Group website:

Update: Federal Skilled Worker Litigation

David Cohen and myself cross examined James Bernardo McNamee, Director of Immigration, Strategies and Analysis, Division of Strategic Policy in Citizenship and Immigration Canada on Tuesday December 18th from 9:00 a.m. to 12:15 p.m. and David Manicom, Director General, Immigration Branch, Citizenship and Immigration Canada on Wednesday December 19th from 9:30 a.m to 11:30 a.m. at the Federal Court Building in Toronto. Lawyers Erin C. Roth and Cecil L. Rotenberg (day two) were also in attendance.

Although we cannot comment on specifics at this time the cross examination focused on the section 15 constitutional challenge and we were pleased with the outcome. Our team is now working to file our Further Memorandum due to the Federal Court on Friday December 28th, 2012.
Where did you get this news? I checked the website bellisimo its not posted there.