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Dear Members

This Case of Tim Leahy is about pre Feb 27,2009 applicants , and does not apply to FSW 1 , 2 & 3?
Please update
 

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msaeed said:
Dear Members

This Case of Tim Leahy is about pre Feb 27,2009 applicants , and does not apply to FSW 1 , 2 & 3?
Please update
Yes it is about pre Feb 27, 2008 applicnats, this FSW 1, 2 & will be next attraction (A sequal of Horrar movie produced and directed by Kenny) LOL
 

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i didn't receive any decision letter yet just saw DECISION MADE on CIC website while checking my application status today. VO was Seoul, Korea.
What i meant is, that the only decision which can be made while your MR's were not sent out to you, is REJECTION. However, as suggested by others, until the lawsuit is ruled you still may have a chance to resurrect the application.
 

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wounderful said:
Do not worry I am also litigant of Mario Bellissimo and my status also shown now "Decision Made" so wait and see for next hearing.
mine too is Decision Made,i am also litigant of David Cohen(Mario Bellissimo).
 

avijitsg

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Quote from Bellissimo Law Group website:

Update: Federal Skilled Worker Litigation

David Cohen and myself cross examined James Bernardo McNamee, Director of Immigration, Strategies and Analysis, Division of Strategic Policy in Citizenship and Immigration Canada on Tuesday December 18th from 9:00 a.m. to 12:15 p.m. and David Manicom, Director General, Immigration Branch, Citizenship and Immigration Canada on Wednesday December 19th from 9:30 a.m to 11:30 a.m. at the Federal Court Building in Toronto. Lawyers Erin C. Roth and Cecil L. Rotenberg (day two) were also in attendance.

Although we cannot comment on specifics at this time the cross examination focused on the section 15 constitutional challenge and we were pleased with the outcome. Our team is now working to file our Further Memorandum due to the Federal Court on Friday December 28th, 2012.
 

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I applied in august 2005 and i passed my psdec in june 2012 but my status is still "in process". and the main issue that cic website of status not updated till june 2012 than how people status changes suddenly in one day it smells fishy.
 

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I applied in august 2005 and i passed my psdec in june 2012 but my status is still "in process". and the main issue that cic website of status not updated till june 2012 than how people status changes suddenly in one day it smells fishy.
They're handing out thousands of rejections because they've had enough of all this ridiculous lawsuit nonsense. They figure, "if these guys want to play rough, okay, let's play rough".
 

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I am very curious and intrigued now..Tuyen , any idea what the arrows are called ?
"Behold, my secret weapon!"

He then pulls out a bunch of rainbow-coloured arrows, sprayed with fresh unicorn juice.
 

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avijitsg said:
Quote from Bellissimo Law Group website:

Update: Federal Skilled Worker Litigation

David Cohen and myself cross examined James Bernardo McNamee, Director of Immigration, Strategies and Analysis, Division of Strategic Policy in Citizenship and Immigration Canada on Tuesday December 18th from 9:00 a.m. to 12:15 p.m. and David Manicom, Director General, Immigration Branch, Citizenship and Immigration Canada on Wednesday December 19th from 9:30 a.m to 11:30 a.m. at the Federal Court Building in Toronto. Lawyers Erin C. Roth and Cecil L. Rotenberg (day two) were also in attendance.

Although we cannot comment on specifics at this time the cross examination focused on the section 15 constitutional challenge and we were pleased with the outcome. Our team is now working to file our Further Memorandum due to the Federal Court on Friday December 28th, 2012.
is this a +1 for the litigants, i am not sure how this works, so i understand, this doesnt imply to Tim's litigants ? how come they had a cross examining now, when they were all scheduled for Jan ?
 

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maran1976 said:
is this a +1 for the litigants, i am not sure how this works, so i understand, this doesnt imply to Tim's litigants ? how come they had a cross examining now, when they were all scheduled for Jan ?
I think The cross examin has to be completed on or before 7 January, so it is normal. This also apply to one lead case of Tim. So don't worry.
 

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What we see the status of litigants is now shows "decision made". So we need input of non litigants status what it shown in their cases same like before I.e. "in process" ? If yes that will be Clear progress in our Managed Litigation.
 

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wounderful said:
What we see the status of litigants is now shows "decision made". So we need input of non litigants status what it shown in their cases same like before I.e. "in process" ? If yes that will be Clear progress in our Managed Litigation.
i am a litigant in the group of Tim Leahy. When I access my E-Cas, my status there is "In Process." So you cannot impute any progress at all for those in the managed litigation just because in an E-Cas of a litigant what shows there as status is "Decision Made".

We wait until after the hearings this January. Any progress at all, negative or otherwise, are within the ambit of the courts, not outside of these legal processes going on.
 

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This is the latest update from Tim Leahy:

Good Day,

Today I took our dear Mr. Justice Barnes at his word and formally requested the Minister to access s. 25.1 (as he did for those who were issued visas after June 29th despite their files having been closed because they had been assessed after March 28th). Needless to say, I do not expect the Minister to do so. Therefore, following Justice Barnes' words, I will file a new court case on January 2nd, asking that the Court enforce the Agreement. On January 8th, I will file a motion asking that the case be turned into a class-action exclusively for those who are a part of the Emam contingent. Therefore, our group will close on January 5th.

I have taken this approach because, even if we prevail at the January 14th-16th hearing, it will only mean that 86,000+ files will have been reinstated. Justice Rennie said that he will refuse to issue mandamus for the litigants, making the litigation next to worthless. Moreover, the losing party may be expected to appeal to the Federal Court of Appeal. In contrast, if the Court agrees to hear our case, we should have the decision this coming spring.

Today I also submitted to the Federal Court of Appeal a notice-of-appeal of Justice Barnes December 14th ruling. It was my Christmas present for Justice Barnes (because I have no coal to put in his slockings). Although the statute bars appeals of motions -- and only allows appeal of decisions if a question is certified -- there are two grounds for getting to the FCA; viz., if the judge failed to exercise his jurisdiction or is biased. I raised both grounds. First, he claimed not to have the power to enforce the Agreement; i.e., he failed to exercise his jurisdiction; and, second, he should have declined to rule on the motion because (a) he had prejudged the issue even before I had written my submissions and (b) he so vehemently and publicly berated me that his bias is transparent. The Registry is seeking direction from the Federal Court of Appeal as to whether it will allow the appeal. I will let you know the result.

So, we will be advancing on two different fronts while the s. 87.4 litigation reaches a crescendo in mid-January. So long as one of these three paths overcomes CIC's obstacles, you will prevail.

Finally, I expect to move into Phase II for the litigants whose files were not closed when I file actions for damages for them. DoJ will counter a month later with a motion asking the Court to dismiss the litigation. If it declines to do so, we can do the same for the closed files. However, because s. 87.4(5) denies access to the Court for those whose files 87.4 closed, I do not want that issue to colour the outcome of the expected motion-to-dismiss. If we win on that issue, we can deal with the second one.

Thus, while the situation looks rather dismal at present, the war is not lost; rather, we are at the same stage as was London when Nazi bombs were reigning down on it and Winston Churchill defiantly proclaimed: "This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But, it is, perhaps the end of the beginning." Ultimately, he vanquished his Nazis. Let us hope that we, too, will vanquish our Nazis and their collaborators.

Regards,
Tim
 

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My consultant told me today that CIC has at last started the refund process and will be rolling out the refunds to the applicants in the days to come.

Please update this thread if you receive the refund cheque or any communication from CIC.